Dogawful Officiating

[Begbie]

Craig Pawson…

[joeyt]

Thought Wieffer should have seen a second yellow

 

I thought all of the penalties looked like penalties in real time, not a fan of VAR but the two that were overruled was VAR working well. No blame on Pawson for that from me

 

Why it took so long for VAR to confirm the third was weird

[Ellis H]

[Kid Icarus]

He's the worst

[Stifler]

First penalty shout, there was still a touch inside the box, the foul continued into the box. It’s a penalty.

 

Second one, still slight contact and the ‘intent’ was there which is what they use as a reason to give penalties all the time.

 

They kept fouling in the middle of the park, and constantly got away with it. They should have been down to 10 men as well.

Has Pawson ever had a good game as a referee?

[gbandit]

Howay Stifler, Willock dived, you can’t give pens for diving. The Gordon one was also outside the area and can’t be argued 

[El Prontonise]

Would love to see you be content if those were given at the other end.

[Fak]

2 minutes ago, Stifler said:

First penalty shout, there was still a touch inside the box, the foul continued into the box. It’s a penalty.

 

Second one, still slight contact and the ‘intent’ was there which is what they use as a reason to give penalties all the time.

 

They kept fouling in the middle of the park, and constantly got away with it. They should have been down to 10 men as well.

Has Pawson ever had a good game as a referee?

 

You mad bastard. 

[geordie_b]

Felt the ref lost control of his own performance when he decided to not book Burn in the early stages (not even sure he gave a free kick?). Spent the rest of the first half trying to get the crowd back on board but made terrible decisions throughout. Its an obvious 2nd booking and a red but think he bottled it with the first half still in his mind. 

[Theregulars]

Can’t see why wieffer stays on 

[gbandit]

1 hour ago, Theregulars said:

Can’t see why wieffer stays on 

This was the worst decision of the lot. We’ve seen VAR intervene for challenges that were way less severe and refs give out red cards, didn’t even ask for a review and the ref didn’t see it as a yellow. Absolute howler of a decision and the type of decision that is key to why players get seriously injured

[midds]

Pawson was dreadful yet again today. Zero consistency from one minute to the next, flat out ignoring the Wieffer second yellow as he didn't have the bottle, flat out ignoring the Burn yellow (it was) as it was too early and if he'd booked him early then he'd have to book more for the rest of the game. His fundamental lack of courage caused him more issues later on in the game, quite happy to ignore bad tackles but he's also sensitive enough to book Welbeck for questioning his utter bullshit

 

He gets a pass on the 2 overturned pens though, both looked pens in real time but neither actually were. One was a few inches wrong and one was a pitiful and embarrassing dive 

[Vaj]

The Wieffer one was borderline red so common sense would suggest that VAR gets involved to give the straight red as it should have 100% been a second yellow 

[Mike]

3 hours ago, Ellis H said:

 

The lack of consistency is what fucks me the fuck off.

[joeyt]

Nothing more obvious that you've made a howler than the player you should have sent off being immediately substituted by his manager

[The Prophet]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgngqen0jgo

 

I'm up for this.

[El Prontonise]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgngqen0jgo

 

I'm up for this.

 

100%

[Cf]

Also up for that. The technological version of giving the advantage back to the attacker.  

[Hanshithispantz]

Sounds absolutely shite.

[Pata]

Wonder if that would mean teams would just sit deeper and watching a parked bus is rarely entertaining.

[Lush Vlad]

Proper fence sitting here. As I fucking despise what offside has become. But at the same time, the whole ‘daylight’ thing seems a bit too far the other way. 
 

No idea how to strike a balance. As the current toe, shoulder, eyebrow offside and however long to decide, even with the automated offsides. Is equally as shit. 
 

I do think it’s shit how it’s taking goals out the game and how it doesn’t feel like why offside was brought in in the first place. 
 

I suppose the minute you bring technology into it and present it as a black and white/yes or no scenario. It has kind of changed as a law and the way it is implemented. 

[Kid Icarus]

2 hours ago, The Prophet said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgngqen0jgo

 

I'm up for this.

I don't think people have fully thought through what would happen with this tbh, teams dropping deep for example. And that the line that's drawn wouldn't be any less pedantic, it would just change location.

[The Prophet]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

I don't think people have fully thought through what would happen with this tbh, teams dropping deep for example. And that the line that's drawn wouldn't be any less pedantic, it would just change location.

 

Fair point. Perhaps a buffer zone of some form would be better?

[andycap]

Should just say your only offside if there's more than one part of the body ahead of the defender. 

That would eradicate the toe end controversy. 

[Kid Icarus]

8 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Fair point. Perhaps a buffer zone of some form would be better?

Might be famous last words but I think the automated offsides solves the problem tbh. It's pedantic but with clear yes/no calls like that I don't mind too much, it's that it's done quickly that matters I think.