ujpest doza Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Seriously need to be looking at why we're getting so many muscle injuries. Solution: spend some big money (the big IF) and bring back Steve Black. Appoint him full-time or at the very least as a high-paid consultant. Fuck it, if such a move jolts a few egos, of existing staff, then so be it. Maverick thinker & his methods are unorthodox, but he's arguably the best at what he does. Our injury record (when he worked alongside Keegan), when it came to troublesome & reoccuring soft-tissues, was almost non-existent. Steve Howey's persistent groin injuries would say otherwise. Interesting listening to Howey about injuries under Keegan who he says was always pushing players to play when injured and asking them to "just get through this one game". I'm not a fan of Steve Black like, for a fitness guru he ain't exactly slim or mobile himself and he was also best man at my cousins wedding and almost put me to sleep with his speech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 f***ing tragic news. Was really optimistic before this. Won't win this now. I wasn't optimistic at all so if he's going to miss a game, might as well be this one. We were always going to get beat anyway. Sorry mate, but the thought of Williamson up against Tevez and Aguero doesn't fill me with confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 "It looks as though we'll lose him for a few weeks and that’s a really big blow. Anyone who has watched our games will tell you what he is like. His hamstring just isn’t right so it looks like we are going to have to take more time over it. It will probably keep him out for a while. We originally thought it would be a mild hamstring injury and we gave it extra time and I was actually expecting him to be available a couple of weeks ago. I rested him in our next game in the hope that he would be right for the last game the weekend just gone. We gave it extra days to get him right but we will now need to take even more time, unfortunately. He will be a big miss for us because he gives us a different attacking dimension from what we have got.” ----------- Sound familiar? Moyes on Kevin Mirallas who was out for a few weeks with his hamstring. Came back and was taken off at half time vs Spurs and now probably won't be back until next month, which is a big blow considering he's arguably our most creative attacking outlet. Sounds very familiar. If there's something wrong with Ben Arfa's hamstring then it's surely madness to play him. You're asking for trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 f***ing tragic news. Was really optimistic before this. Won't win this now. I wasn't optimistic at all so if he's going to miss a game, might as well be this one. We were always going to get beat anyway. Don't understand this facepalm at all. We are more than likely to lose this game, so if HBA is less than 100% we shouldn't risk him. That's just sensible management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 "It looks as though we'll lose him for a few weeks and that’s a really big blow. Anyone who has watched our games will tell you what he is like. His hamstring just isn’t right so it looks like we are going to have to take more time over it. It will probably keep him out for a while. We originally thought it would be a mild hamstring injury and we gave it extra time and I was actually expecting him to be available a couple of weeks ago. I rested him in our next game in the hope that he would be right for the last game the weekend just gone. We gave it extra days to get him right but we will now need to take even more time, unfortunately. He will be a big miss for us because he gives us a different attacking dimension from what we have got.” ----------- Sound familiar? Moyes on Kevin Mirallas who was out for a few weeks with his hamstring. Came back and was taken off at half time vs Spurs and now probably won't be back until next month, which is a big blow due to the quality he gives us. If there's something wrong with Ben Arfa's hamstring then it's surely madness to play him. You're asking for trouble. Mirallas has looked very good this season. Very unlucky not to have scored more. Engineered some good openings for himself and has a bit of pace to him. Was a bit disappointed when I discovered FF had classified him as a Forward. Think you've missed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 "It looks as though we'll lose him for a few weeks and that’s a really big blow. Anyone who has watched our games will tell you what he is like. His hamstring just isn’t right so it looks like we are going to have to take more time over it. It will probably keep him out for a while. We originally thought it would be a mild hamstring injury and we gave it extra time and I was actually expecting him to be available a couple of weeks ago. I rested him in our next game in the hope that he would be right for the last game the weekend just gone. We gave it extra days to get him right but we will now need to take even more time, unfortunately. He will be a big miss for us because he gives us a different attacking dimension from what we have got.” ----------- Sound familiar? Moyes on Kevin Mirallas who was out for a few weeks with his hamstring. Came back and was taken off at half time vs Spurs and now probably won't be back until next month, which is a big blow due to the quality he gives us. If there's something wrong with Ben Arfa's hamstring then it's surely madness to play him. You're asking for trouble. Mirallas has looked very good this season. Very unlucky not to have scored more. Engineered some good openings for himself and has a bit of pace to him. Was a bit disappointed when I discovered FF had classified him as a Forward. Think you've missed him. Yup, he looks really good which is why it's so frustrating he's missing games. Presuming he's out for our next few games then he will have barely played half our league games up to that point. That's a worry. The point is, stuff like "well he'll want to play" - so what? I'd bloody well hope a professional footballer would want to play. If he's injured, he's injured, imagine the fallout if he plays tomorrow and is out for a longer spell with a torn hamstring or something similar. I'm no medical expert but hamstrings are surely one thing you don't piss around with? If there's a consistency to the injuries you're getting then that's what the club's time should be spent focussing on, not blindly rolling the dice with your best player's fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 That's pretty much all I was looking forward to for this match, gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 That's pretty much all I was looking forward to for this match, gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Hatem will say he wants to play. Yes and I hope he'll play. Would you be pissed off at the club if he then went on got a longer term injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Hatem will say he wants to play. Yes and I hope he'll play. Would you be pissed off at the club if he then went on got a longer term injury? Aye, much rather have him fit for Q.P.R than injured because he played against Man City. Oh for a crystal ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 f***ing tragic news. Was really optimistic before this. Won't win this now. I wasn't optimistic at all so if he's going to miss a game, might as well be this one. We were always going to get beat anyway. Don't understand this facepalm at all. We are more than likely to lose this game, so if HBA is less than 100% we shouldn't risk him. That's just sensible management. I was just taking for granted the manupstairs was being ironic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Hatem will say he wants to play. Yes and I hope he'll play. Would you be p*ssed off at the club if he then went on got a longer term injury? Neil has already (see 2 or 3 messages below) pointed out that argument. So, don't piss me off Caj. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 That's Cajun telt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Went in to this season with only one proven quality wide player.. :lol: :rant: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well, time for the Marv to step in. Unless we decide to play with no creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 He'll play . This is just some mind game that Pardew is trying . The thing is there's been no picture of training yet on NUFC website ... For instance Ben Arfa never suffered any knee injuries in his hole career and Pardew wanted to make us/them ? beleive he was out for Tottenham game , i don't know if he thinks this 90's football , when starting XI where particularely studied by the opponent team , just say is out or fit , don't make a fool of yourself ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 He probably just hasn't seen him all week due to the training schedule... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It may well be that HBA misses out but at the same time when an opposing team are preparing to play against us and he would be a major part of their preparations, it doesn't do any harm to throw them an occasional curved ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It may well be that HBA misses out but at the same time when an opposing team are preparing to play against us and he would be a major part of their preparations, it doesn't do any harm to throw them an occasional curved ball. Aye, Mancini....right who can head it away......sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20121214/ben-arfa-a-doubt_2281670_3009629 the photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 He'll play . This is just some mind game that Pardew is trying . The thing is there's been no picture of training yet on NUFC website ... For instance Ben Arfa never suffered any knee injuries in his hole career and Pardew wanted to make us/them ? beleive he was out for Tottenham game , i don't know if he thinks this 90's football , when starting XI where particularely studied by the opponent team , just say is out or fit , don't make a fool of yourself ! It sort of payd off against Spurs, though. Think you're right btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 He'll play . This is just some mind game that Pardew is trying . The thing is there's been no picture of training yet on NUFC website ... For instance Ben Arfa never suffered any knee injuries in his hole career and Pardew wanted to make us/them ? beleive he was out for Tottenham game , i don't know if he thinks this 90's football , when starting XI where particularely studied by the opponent team , just say is out or fit , don't make a fool of yourself ! http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=158532274&EditorialProduct=Sport Can't see Hatem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If this is a "mind game" it's pretty embarrassing. Give over. You seem very easily embarrassed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If this is a "mind game" it's pretty embarrassing. Give over. You seem very easily embarrassed. Bet he is blushing now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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