Jagten Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Think he confirmed his place in the starting 11 tonight tbh. Won't stop threatening. With Ribery to come in, i'm not sure. We'll see. dont really see him as being in competition with ribery for the right sided spot. Its more Menez tbh. I would give Nasri the boot personally. Maybe shift Hatem inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Its more Menez tbh. I would give Nasri the boot personally. Maybe shift Hatem inside. I agree about Nasri, some of his decision making tonight was very poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Think he confirmed his place in the starting 11 tonight tbh. Won't stop threatening. With Ribery to come in, i'm not sure. We'll see. dont really see him as being in competition with ribery for the right sided spot. Ribery will be on the left. I reckon they'll play someon more defensive minded along Cabaye (M'Vila?) or move him up the field. I think Giroud is the main threat to Hatem at the moment, he looks unplayable. Him and Benzema and go 4-4-2 could be the way. I reckon they'll beat both of us (Sweden and England) comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThievingMagpie Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Cabaye M'Vila Ben Arfa Nasri Ribery Benzema DIS. Oh lord Cabaye would absolutely crush England with his long passing. Remember that for France Cabaye plays a deeper playmaker role and will be just pinging long passes to Ribery, Ben Arfa, Nasri and Benzema. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Cabaye M'Vila Ben Arfa Nasri Ribery Benzema DIS. Oh lord Cabaye would absolutely crush England with his long passing. Remember that for France Cabaye plays a deeper playmaker role and will be just pinging long passes to Ribery, Ben Arfa, Nasri and Benzema. the problem there is that none of the supporting 3 hit the box, make the run off or in behind. it's why france have struggled and why, in my opinion they should go 4-4-2 with giroud and benzema up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Cabaye M'Vila Ben Arfa Nasri Ribery Benzema DIS. Oh lord Cabaye would absolutely crush England with his long passing. Remember that for France Cabaye plays a deeper playmaker role and will be just pinging long passes to Ribery, Ben Arfa, Nasri and Benzema. the problem there is that none of the supporting 3 hit the box, make the run off or in behind. it's why france have struggled and why, in my opinion they should go 4-4-2 with giroud and benzema up top. HBA Cabaye M'Vila Ribery Giroud Benzema Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 That looks good too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yeah it wouldn't surprise if they go with 4-4-2 against deep defenses to break them down.... use Giroud as the big battering ram to knock down the " Parked Bus" and have Benzema, Ribery and Ben Arfa feeding off him with Cabaye and M'Vila holding. I don't expect them to use it against the likes of Germany, Spain, Holland, Italy etc etc but against teams that play defensively its definitely an option i wouldn't be surprised to see them use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Are England the only major nation taking 4 strikers? Everybody else seems to produce/understand the value of advanced midfielders to the point where they don't need to bring a long a load of centre forwards for the sake of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Are England the only major nation taking 4 strikers? Everybody else seems to produce/understand the value of advanced midfielders to the point where they don't need to bring a long a load of centre forwards for the sake of it. Does England produce many "advanced midfielders", though? Outside of bringing Johnson or Cole into the squad, I don't know what other attacking options you are talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Are England the only major nation taking 4 strikers? Everybody else seems to produce/understand the value of advanced midfielders to the point where they don't need to bring a long a load of centre forwards for the sake of it. Does England produce many "advanced midfielders", though? Outside of bringing Johnson or Cole into the squad, I don't know what other attacking options you are talking about. That's what I mean. I said we don't produce them. We play in straight lines and as such the players we produce fall into that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Cabaye M'Vila Ben Arfa Nasri Ribery Benzema DIS. Oh lord Cabaye would absolutely crush England with his long passing. Remember that for France Cabaye plays a deeper playmaker role and will be just pinging long passes to Ribery, Ben Arfa, Nasri and Benzema. the problem there is that none of the supporting 3 hit the box, make the run off or in behind. it's why france have struggled and why, in my opinion they should go 4-4-2 with giroud and benzema up top. HBA Cabaye M'Vila Ribery Giroud Benzema Can't see them dropping Nasri, even though I'd rather have Hatem. If Giroud gets a game I'd imagine it would look something like this: Cabaye M'Vila Nasri Ribery Benzema Giroud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Cabaye M'Vila Ben Arfa Nasri Ribery Benzema DIS. Oh lord Cabaye would absolutely crush England with his long passing. Remember that for France Cabaye plays a deeper playmaker role and will be just pinging long passes to Ribery, Ben Arfa, Nasri and Benzema. the problem there is that none of the supporting 3 hit the box, make the run off or in behind. it's why france have struggled and why, in my opinion they should go 4-4-2 with giroud and benzema up top. HBA Cabaye M'Vila Ribery Giroud Benzema Can't see them dropping Nasri, even though I'd rather have Hatem. If Giroud gets a game I'd imagine it would look something like this: Cabaye M'Vila Nasri Ribery Benzema Giroud thats how i see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Are England the only major nation taking 4 strikers? Everybody else seems to produce/understand the value of advanced midfielders to the point where they don't need to bring a long a load of centre forwards for the sake of it. Does England produce many "advanced midfielders", though? Outside of bringing Johnson or Cole into the squad, I don't know what other attacking options you are talking about. That's what I mean. I said we don't produce them. We play in straight lines and as such the players we produce fall into that. I still think England's personnel is most suited to a fairly defensive 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 like we played for large periods of last season. Another problem outside of the attacking players is that England don't produce true holding midfielders in the mold of the African destroyer or the southern European deep lying playmakers. Before his misfortune, I often suggested Muamba as a player for England. In this era, in which midfielders are separated into clearly attacking or defensive roles, you don't have many players. Cleverly and Wilshere may help fulfill the roles further forward, but it is worrying that both of them have been injured on such a consistent basis throughout their careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Are England the only major nation taking 4 strikers? Everybody else seems to produce/understand the value of advanced midfielders to the point where they don't need to bring a long a load of centre forwards for the sake of it. Does England produce many "advanced midfielders", though? Outside of bringing Johnson or Cole into the squad, I don't know what other attacking options you are talking about. That's what I mean. I said we don't produce them. We play in straight lines and as such the players we produce fall into that. I still think England's personnel is most suited to a fairly defensive 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 like we played for large periods of last season. Another problem outside of the attacking players is that England don't produce true holding midfielders in the mold of the African destroyer or the southern European deep lying playmakers. Before his misfortune, I often suggested Muamba as a player for England. In this era, in which midfielders are separated into clearly attacking or defensive roles, you don't have many players. Cleverly and Wilshere may help fulfill the roles further forward, but it is worrying that both of them have been injured on such a consistent basis throughout their careers. I don't know if it's just part of his footballing education but Wenger seemed intent on Wilshere playing a deep role for Arsenal, and he was fantastic there last season. Truth is we could do with him becoming useful there but we could also do with him being the advanced midfielder it looked like he was going to be through youth ranks - and there's only one of him. I am gutted at his injury problems over the last year. One of my favourite players to watch in the league and was one of the few exciting players that you could throw into the national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frazernufc Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Benzema indicating that Ben Arfa will surely be selected with this quote. "At the Euros, I won't think about trying to be heroic or trying to do the whole job alone. I need all my team-mates to be good on the pitch," Benzema told L'Equipe. "We all have a big desire, we talked about it and we will talk again. We have a good generation, it is up to us to play." He added: "Jeremy Menez has had an amazing season, I had a lot of fun watching him playing at PSG. He will be the icing on the cake at the Euros. "Hatem Ben Arfa is one of the very best in his position. I hope he will keep the same form. I know with him we can play together on the pitch with our eyes closed." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 France seem to have a lot of talented wingers at the moment (even Malouda looked good when he came on the other night!), but the way Ben Arfa linked up with Debuchy and Benzema should almost guarantee him a place I would've thought. Can't wait to see how we try to defend against him and Ribery/Menez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 England are going to get merked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 The Ben Arfa - Benzema combo in the first half and then the impact Ribery made when he came on 2nd half, you could see the players that were a level above the others. Menez and giroud notably mentions aswell. They do look dodgy at the back though. Haven't been convinced about evra for awhile now. Really proud that a player like Ben Arfa plays for us. Just hope he doesn't play too well and Mourinho thinks about linking him with benzema for Real Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Ben Arfa vs Iceland {Nufc_Compilation}. Made by one of the posters here i guess? Cheers! Some nice stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Ben Arfa vs Iceland {Nufc_Compilation}. Made by one of the posters here i guess? Cheers! Some nice stuff! Yeah just uploaded it they keep deleting my compilations of Ben Arfa for us they never stay up longer then a few weeks... hopefully I'll have a few more to put up over Euro 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Much better than the other one i watched! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Ben Arfa vs Iceland {Nufc_Compilation}. Made by one of the posters here i guess? Cheers! Some nice stuff! Yeah just uploaded it they keep deleting my compilations of Ben Arfa for us they never stay up longer then a few weeks... hopefully I'll have a few more to put up over Euro 2012. Have you used that music you use everytime, that gangster music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell Boi Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Ben Arfa vs Iceland {Nufc_Compilation}. Made by one of the posters here i guess? Cheers! Some nice stuff! I still can't believe he plays for us, when you see the control in that video...ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 How did Nasri do last night? Any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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