Dr Venkman Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 He'll play tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 "It was just a question of whether I could work with him and get into his head, and I felt I could do that <b>with the experience I'd had of Yossi Benayoun, Carlos Tevez, Javier Mascherano</b>, Teddy Sheringham, and fortunately it seems to have worked out." Is it just me or does Pardew harp on a little too often about this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ben-arfa-peace-in-the-north-east-8397711.html Ben Arfa: Peace in the north east As a youngster, he found it hard to cope with his own brilliance; now Newcastle's brightest star has found contentment with maturity, as he tells Martin Hardy Martin Hardy Monday 10 December 2012 Hatem Ben Arfa seizes the conversational reins from his interpreter as he looks for a way to explain a new-found maturity. "Against Liverpool, in the first 30 minutes, I lost every ball," he says, animatedly. "Everyone was saying, 'What are you doing?' and the gaffer was thinking, 'What's going on?' When I was younger, if that had happened after 30 minutes, I would have lost confidence. I would have gone in my shell. Now, I keep going, it is my responsibility. "I had to keep going, and then tick, tick. The ball came to me. I went past Jose Enrique, crossed to Yohan [Cabaye] and we scored." Tick, tick. The clock on Ben Arfa's life runs at a more calm pace now. He will return to the Newcastle United team tonight at Fulham after a hamstring strain and spoke of serenity at the Tyneside training ground during preparations. There is relevance to the peace of mind he has found in the north-east of England, for this is a player who has carried a burden of responsibility since he was first spotted, as a child, playing football with his friends in the Parisian suburb of Clamart. "I was about six or seven when I used to play in the area where I grew up," he says. "When I was young I played with my friends and people around my home. They would come and say, 'Ah, we want you in our team,' and, 'You're going to be a good player.' "It came naturally to me. Football came naturally. The control, the touch, the balance, it is natural. Even the tricks, they are natural. When I'm on the pitch, I'm not thinking about what I'm going to do. It is instinctive. "Of course, when I was young you see the people believe in you, sometimes you want to go and play on your own. Sometimes you feel shy. If I did not play well, people would say, 'Oh, what is wrong?' "The pressure has always been there. I grew up with that. Of course it was hard as a child. It is hard growing up, and people said I would be the next big thing." At the age of 12, Ben Arfa went to Le Centre Technique National Fernand-Sastre at Clairefontaine (he would return there 11 years later with his leg badly broken following a challenge by Nigel de Jong). He left home to become a boarder, to learn about football, education and life. A documentary was made of his and his peers' progress; it is an insight into Ben Arfa's character when he was young. "It was hard when I started," he says. "I was 12. I had left my house. I grew up with a lot of guys, there were a lot of us together. I have good memories of Clairefontaine. I look back and it was one of the best experiences of my life. When you are young, you do not care what people say. Then you have the years when you are 17, 18 and 19 when you wonder what people are going to say about you and you don't have a lot of the pleasure of playing football. "Then, with maturity, you enjoy it more and you have pleasure. That is the difference between now and before. I am happier within myself." After three years at Clairefontaine, Ben Arfa left to sign for Lyons. In 2008, he moved to Marseilles for £10m. He won the Ligue 1 title in 2010, and that summer, at the end of August, he moved, initially on loan, to Newcastle. In his fourth game, his leg was snapped in two places. He broke his tibia and fibula. He did not play for nine months. Much of his rehab was spent back at Clairefontaine. He was visited by members of Newcastle's staff, including then manager Chris Hughton, managing director Derek Llambias and owner Mike Ashley. He signed a permanent deal. "It was a very hard period, when your leg is like that and you don't have power. You're in hospital and in pain, and you see football on the television; it is very difficult. But I learned from it as well. "I think there is a reason I had that experience, maybe to learn more. I am happy to have had that experience today – but not then. I can be philosophical about it now. It is a very good thing. I have learned from the experience." He would compare his legs in the hospital, in Clairefontaine, and finally, in the Newcastle dressing room, asking his team-mates if they were now the same size. "I do not do it now, no," he adds, laughing. "Now it is finished, but I used to do that, over and over, 'Same or not? Same or not?' I would say to everyone in the dressing room, 'Is it the same as the other leg? Come, look, are they the same size?' Always asking. "Sometimes they would wind me up and say 'no' and I would train on it again. Now it is finished. When I came back it was hard but now I am OK." There have been nine goals and eight assists in 35 appearances since his return. Last month, Ben Arfa's mesmerising goal against Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup in January was short-listed for Fifa's Puskas Award for the "most beautiful" goal of the year. No other player in the Premier League made it to the final 10. "It was in Newcastle and all the stadium saw the goal. I am very happy about that. I was very happy. I like to do a trick, to do something different. Here I have the confidence to do that.I want to give the fans something back," Ben Arfa says. "One time in Clairefontaine I went around the goalkeeper and could have scored. Three times I came back and went round him again. Then I missed. Claude Dussault, my old trainer, made me run around the pitch for the rest of training." Dussault recently spoke of Ben Arfa. "Before arriving at Clairefontaine, he was already known throughout the Parisian football scene," he said. "He was making the headlines. He was younger than the others. He definitely had the technical qualities of a good left-footed player. "He worked and analysed his technique and his speed. He is one of the most talented players that has ever come out of Clairefontaine. He is the Nicolas Anelka type but he only uses 75 per cent of his potential. He has just begun to understand football, which is also defensive and collective. At Clairefontaine, he could do more in tiring his opponent and recovering the ball, as he is starting to do now." Alan Pardew, the Newcastle manager, made Ben Arfa conform, then gave him licence. He recently repeated the trick of going round the goalkeeper multiple times. "I did it here I think, yes, yes, I did it again, but I lost. This time I did not have to run around the pitch. "It is a job but I love what I am doing and I enjoy it every day. It is very important to enjoy. Of course you have to win but football is a spectacle, you know. The fans come to see the game for spectacle. They want us to win but they want to see something special as well. I want to give them pleasure. "I feel very happy in Newcastle, I feel welcome, I feel loved here. I love the city, I love the place. I love it when the fans come to meet me, or they come to see me. "This is the most confidence I have been given in my career and I want to do well for the club and the fans. I have realised that it is 30 per cent talent and the rest is hard work. Here in the Premier League you have to be very strong first. After that you can play." With age has come understanding. "I am happier now because I understand myself better," he says. "I slow down, I don't bite. I have more control. I am more mature. I am 25, I am relaxed. I have serenity now. "Every experience I have had in my life has been to make me like that. Not just football, you know, everything that happens in your life helps to improve you. I am growing up more and more and more. Every time you learn from your life, from every situation. "Sometimes we learn the easy way, sometimes we learn the hard way; sometimes you don't want to learn. If you do not learn, in maybe two days it will happen again. Life will give you something to understand. If you don't, it will come back again and again. "Am I more mature because I understand what is expected of me now? Of course." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 "One time in Clairefontaine I went around the goalkeeper and could have scored. Three times I came back and went round him again. Then I missed. Claude Dussault, my old trainer, made me run around the pitch for the rest of training." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 "One time in Clairefontaine I went around the goalkeeper and could have scored. Three times I came back and went round him again. Then I missed. Claude Dussault, my old trainer, made me run around the pitch for the rest of training." I would love to see him do it during a game as long as the ball ends up in the net. It would be the ultimate piss take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Ah well, he's just fucking glorious isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 This guy belongs with Descartes and Comte and all those other great French philosophers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Love him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Absolutely love him to bits. Can't wait to see him back! He is so important to our team in terms of creativity and confidence. I keep hoping for us to go on a good streak of wins just so we can keep the talent that we have at the end of the season and build on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 "and then tick, tick. The ball came to me. I went past Jose Enrique" Loved that bit. Good interview. A documentary was made of his and his peers' progress; it is an insight into Ben Arfa's character when he was young. Would love to see that, although my French isn't the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's on Youtube mate, piece of piss to find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 was planning on having a look after work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 HATEM BEN ARFA re-invented by Cros2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Hatem, your love is reciprocated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 HATEM BEN ARFA re-invented by Cros2 I want that picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 http://www.etsicommunication.fr/blog_etsi/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/cros2.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Might just buy those shoes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Interview in The Independent coming soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Remember Christmas Tree and Baggio swearing blind that he was shit because he'd not played a particular pass? Pair of cretins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Shidiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Everytime someone at the match screams at him to pass it I want to punch them hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Remember Christmas Tree and Baggio swearing blind that he was shit because he'd not played a particular pass? Pair of cretins. CT has eased off Hatem on TT now. Guti is the new whipping boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Remember Christmas Tree and Baggio swearing blind that he was shit because he'd not played a particular pass? Pair of cretins. Yup. Complete morons. To be honest, there were quite a few others on here who had no fucking clue as well. Some people actually seriously advocated starting Best over him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He's the most gifted player we've had in 20 years, maybe 40 years, maybe ever. That's how brilliant he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 And you just know it's all true as well. I thought he'd be a nightmare when we signed him but as far as I know he's been perfectly behaved. Can't help but get the feeling he's being wasted a fair bit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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