Rich Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 This guy just gifs himself. Doesn't play by the rules. Didn't even get my chance to do a wrestling move one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Barely in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 This is probably the worst thread on the board. You have a player who is out of shape yet most people on here are blaming other people for this. Correct. there's only one person to blame and that's Pardew. Bad enough that he doesn't have a grip on his player's nutrition and conditioning, but then he actually rewards them by giving them first team action. What a flake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 This is probably the worst thread on the board. You have a player who is out of shape yet most people on here are blaming other people for this. So, he's still quick and when he plays he's not puffing by the end (a la Nolan). Can someone point out the actual EVIDENCE that he's over weight and markedly short of fitness? I mean, something apart from rumours, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 This guy is out of shape, and yet has more life in his body than twelve thousand Shola Ameobis. Yet Shola started countless games ahead of him. I just can't accept these excuses for messing this guy about. If we were a team of decathletes, then hey go ahead and keep him out until he leans up, but with Shola in there instead I can't accept it. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 How is he out of shape? He is probably our quickest player over 50 or 100 yards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 This Ben Arfa out of shape jargon is just a coping mechanism. Used to try and rationalise the actions of a blithering idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 How is he out of shape? He is probably our quickest player over 50 or 100 yards 100 yards is almost the length of the entire pitch man He has about a 5 metre burst of pace after that I wonder how anyone gets near him if he is so quick. His lack of fitness isnt about that its more to do with him being easily muscled off the ball and generally looking out of steam after a burst of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Tragedy what's happened to him under Pardue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Why do people have a perception that other players just stand and watch? In my eyes he keeps the ball too long when there is an obvious pass. This exactly. Yet people in this thread will continue to make excuses for the boy until the cows come home. Funny that none of our other midfielders get the benefit of the same excuses. There's not movement around him, been told to do too much, wrong tactics, no one to pass to, it's Pardew's fault, he's in the same squad as Shola. Imagine those applied to someone like Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Shola says thanks by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Why do people have a perception that other players just stand and watch? In my eyes he keeps the ball too long when there is an obvious pass. This exactly. Yet people in this thread will continue to make excuses for the boy until the cows come home. Funny that none of our other midfielders get the benefit of the same excuses. There's not movement around him, been told to do too much, wrong tactics, no one to pass to, it's Pardew's fault, he's in the same squad as Shola. Imagine those applied to someone like Jonas. he gets more stick than pretty much any of our players. All due to expectations Expected to save us with 15 minute cameos... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Why do people have a perception that other players just stand and watch? In my eyes he keeps the ball too long when there is an obvious pass. This exactly. Yet people in this thread will continue to make excuses for the boy until the cows come home. Funny that none of our other midfielders get the benefit of the same excuses. There's not movement around him, been told to do too much, wrong tactics, no one to pass to, it's Pardew's fault, he's in the same squad as Shola. Imagine those applied to someone like Jonas. he gets more stick than pretty much any of our players. All due to expectations Expected to save us with 15 minute cameos... What's this? People think he is better than he actually is? no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Where is this 'he's fat' thing coming from? Put two pictures if him side by side. One before and one after (the Benfica game) and you'll see he's fat man. His current weight isn't his weight of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Where is this 'he's fat' thing coming from? him being Fat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Why do people have a perception that other players just stand and watch? In my eyes he keeps the ball too long when there is an obvious pass. This exactly. Yet people in this thread will continue to make excuses for the boy until the cows come home. Funny that none of our other midfielders get the benefit of the same excuses. There's not movement around him, been told to do too much, wrong tactics, no one to pass to, it's Pardew's fault, he's in the same squad as Shola. Imagine those applied to someone like Jonas. he gets more stick than pretty much any of our players. All due to expectations Expected to save us with 15 minute cameos... What's this? People think he is better than he actually is? no way. He's far better than what he's shown recently. He's certainly guilty for that, but the way Pardew scapegoats him doesn't help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Let's not make this too complicated. Is he better than Shola? Yes. Is he better than Sammy? Yes. End of story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Let's not make this too complicated. Is he better than Shola? Yes. Is he better than Sammy? Yes. End of story. Is he better than Gouffran ? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Let's not make this too complicated. Is he better than Shola? Yes. Is he better than Sammy? Yes. End of story. Is he better than Gouffran ? Yes. We don't even have to go that far. He has been kept out of the team by the Ameobis, and that is just tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Obertan was also ahead of him until he pretty much made himself Maradona for a while to get past the mighty Obermenan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Obertan was also ahead of him until he pretty much made himself Maradona for a while to get past the mighty Obermenan. Ryan Taylor too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Let's not make this too complicated. Is he better than Shola? Yes. Is he better than Sammy? Yes. End of story. Yes let simplify, he so far ahead of everyone else in the squad that's why he finds himself on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 That list of players keeping out Hatem Ben Arfa is absolutely fucking shocking, and would be a piss-take if it wasn't true. What the fuck kind of manager do we have on our hands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 How is he out of shape? He is probably our quickest player over 50 or 100 yards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 How is he out of shape? He is probably our quickest player over 50 or 100 yards Imagine how quick he'd be if he lost the weight he's carrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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