Barnes23 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 "Ben Arfa is thought to have told Pardew that he was responsible for the decline of players such as Sylvain Marveaux and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa." Love dat Benny Either we're successful in getting Pardew out, or all of these 'trouble-makers' get shipped out in the summer and replaced by James Tomkins and Jack Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Imagine it to be people like S.Taylor, Elliott, Williamson, basically all the hard working but s**** Pardew style players. I don't think the players who owe him to be on the pitch will turn on him...and those you are mentioning don't have the character to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Who the f*** are these senior players kicking off about Hatem man, what the actual f***. My guess the likes of Taylor and Ameobi I can imagine Taylor doing it because he's a big creep, but Shola? He seems like a genuinely nice guy. Just seems weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Colo maybe ? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastles-fabricio-coloccini-aims-dressing-room-3408929 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Now Cabaye has gone, I just don't see who the "leaders" are in the dressing room - apart from Colo obviously as captain (but is he that vocal) and Shola due to longevity (too nice). I wonder whether these dressing room leaks are meant to alienate Ben Arfa further so that the fans start to side with the manager?? How can the players be allowed to dictate who should and shouldn't be playing? However, all it is doing is allowing Ben Arfa to emerge as some kind of "folk hero". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Be the old English try hards v fancy dan Forrins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's just making me love HBA even more tbh. Whether his argument is purely selfish, or in self defense, he epitomises us in terms of how he's been treated by those at NUFC that we hate. The personification of what we want and what we think, shunted to the sidelines and then blamed. The way he's being treated is probably the focal point of exactly what's wrong about the club because the best of him represents so much of us and what we want and how it's being disregarded and then demonised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I know a lad who works at the academy - bit of a gobshite, admittedly - who's adamant that HBA is now intensely disliked by the English pros and has been since the end of last season where he was criticised for not looking after himself while out injured. It all came to a head for him at Goodison where Pardew and said few players apparently questioned his attitude and application, in the dressing room. As I say, the lad's normally a gobshite but I thought it was an interesting story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I know a lad who works at the academy - bit of a gobshite, admittedly - who's adamant that HBA is now intensely disliked by the English pros and has been since the end of last season where he was criticised for not looking after himself while out injured. It all came to a head for him at Goodison where Pardew and said few players apparently questioned his attitude and application, in the dressing room. As I say, the lad's normally a gobshite but I thought it was an interesting story. Considering Shola and Saylor would probably be a part of that group they are being a bit hypocritical to hate on Ben Arfa's conditioning to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 All of the 'English Pros' can get f***ed, without exception. Useless try-hard w*****s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I know a lad who works at the academy - bit of a gobshite, admittedly - who's adamant that HBA is now intensely disliked by the English pros and has been since the end of last season where he was criticised for not looking after himself while out injured. It all came to a head for him at Goodison where Pardew and said few players apparently questioned his attitude and application, in the dressing room. As I say, the lad's normally a gobshite but I thought it was an interesting story. That sounds similar to the stories in the press. However, we have so few English pros left of which the only regular first-teamer is Williamson and at least 3 of them will be leaving this Summer anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 No surprise that the manager has constantly complained about having too many foreigners, and now the English players are following suit. A manager of a football club should never say such things, or at least not publically or to the other players. What kind of team spirit is that ever going to build? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I know a lad who works at the academy - bit of a gobshite, admittedly - who's adamant that HBA is now intensely disliked by the English pros and has been since the end of last season where he was criticised for not looking after himself while out injured. It all came to a head for him at Goodison where Pardew and said few players apparently questioned his attitude and application, in the dressing room. As I say, the lad's normally a gobshite but I thought it was an interesting story. That sounds similar to the stories in the press. However, we have so few English pros left of which the only regular first-teamer is Williamson and at least 3 of them will be leaving this Summer anyway. The only reason I posted it now was because of some of the stories that are coming out. I heard it a few weeks ago when I was at the academy and bumped into the lad in question, he likes the sound of his own voice so I just instantly dismissed it as rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Who the fuck are these senior players kicking off about Hatem man, what the actual fuck. shola, leon best and sibierski. you can't shut them up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 At a time when Cabaye is gone and Remy missing, for the "English pros" not to want HBA in the side says far more about them than it does about him. More concerned with keeping their own undeserved place on the gravy train than winning a game or giving the paying public a single second of entertainment. Who are this lot anyway? We've played games this season with a full foreign XI. Williamson's the only "senior" English player who hasn't been a complete fucking waste of space all season. The idea that anyone at NUFC should pay any attention to what Rob Elliott thinks man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Lol @ any of the players responsible out ridiculously bad run of form having any sort of go at Ben Arfa. Laughable The manager is using him as his scapegoat, not hard to see the players doing the same to excuse their own shitness. It's coming from Pardew, lead by his own failings, the mans a coward and that's what cowards do, stab someone else in the back. Definitely hate this wanker more than any other manager we've ever had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ben @BonjourMonAmiNE · 57 min Says an awful lot about how pathetic our players are if Ben Arfa rightly has a go at Pardew, and they then whinge about him playing. Swin @Swin9 · 54 min @BonjourMonAmiNE where’s all this been said? Ben @BonjourMonAmiNE · 53 min @Swin9 You’ll be delighted to know it’s taken from a Lee Ryder article.. Swin @Swin9 · 53 min @BonjourMonAmiNE it’s bullshit then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I do hope the players whinged badly when Cabaye refused to play for us, so that they aren't hypocritical bastards as I assume they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Can't get over that report. What a fucking hero this guy is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I do hope the players whinged badly when Cabaye refused to play for us, so that they aren't hypocritical b******s as I assume they are. Ha! Good point. I bet they didn't dare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I always hoped Ben Arfa would be the one to finally tell pardew to f*** off Colo for me. Something's wrong if you can get under Colo's skin. Someone who by all accounts is respected and liked by the other players, staff and Pardew himself, as well as being captain, someone that has more to his game than graft and is a vocal person at all. Him telling Pardew to fuck off would resonate a canny bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 As if Hatem Ben Arfa actually took a plane to Newcastle on his own accord in a desparate attempt to join this club.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I'd be interested to hear what Graham Carr truthfully thinks about all of this like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 As if Hatem Ben Arfa actually took a plane to Newcastle on his own accord in a desparate attempt to join this club.. To be fair to him he has persisted in loving us throughout all the injustice. Think he now needs to think about his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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