Guest bimpy474 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I just posted it the way I see it. If it's negative then I make no apologies for that, that's just the way it is. It's close season and while other teams have done decent business we've done pretty much fuck all. I'm not going to shit rainbows for the sake of it. And so you shouldn't. I love this place for the forthright views. My favourite place this now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm not making excuses for anyone by the way They are doing my tits in as much as anyone's else. There is no denial. I'm just finding it difficult reading thats all. There was a poster yesterday who was even making things up (phil k i think) Its my own fault I suppose, I dont have to come on. Its just f***ing addictive Dont be daft you need different views. I must say i'm less bothered about the lack of signings, transfers and even Ashley. It's Pardew that gets my goat, i love football, and i love it played well. He's just sucked the joy out of it. I have said though, we are looking less direct, and the set pieces look like they've been worked on. I'm not as pessimistic as i was before pre season started, fractionally anyhoo. Well, in my mind he's got 7 games. After City we have a run of really good fixtures up until Chelski. I suspect we'll know how its going to go before the 7 mind. The way I look at it is if we dont improve and dont start relatively well, I'm fairly sure he'll be gone. Then all we have to worry about is who is going to take over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm not making excuses for anyone by the way They are doing my tits in as much as anyone's else. There is no denial. I'm just finding it difficult reading thats all. There was a poster yesterday who was even making things up (phil k i think) Its my own fault I suppose, I dont have to come on. Its just f***ing addictive Making things up ??? "I didn't see it therefore it's made up" Wasn't aware you sit in the dressing room at all times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm not making excuses for anyone by the way They are doing my tits in as much as anyone's else. There is no denial. I'm just finding it difficult reading thats all. There was a poster yesterday who was even making things up (phil k i think) Its my own fault I suppose, I dont have to come on. Its just f***ing addictive Making things up ??? "I didn't see it therefore it's made up" Wasn't aware you sit in the dressing room at all times. You were the one claiming something, surely it is up to you to provide evidence if anyone questions it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm not making excuses for anyone by the way They are doing my tits in as much as anyone's else. There is no denial. I'm just finding it difficult reading thats all. There was a poster yesterday who was even making things up (phil k i think) Its my own fault I suppose, I dont have to come on. Its just f***ing addictive Dont be daft you need different views. I must say i'm less bothered about the lack of signings, transfers and even Ashley. It's Pardew that gets my goat, i love football, and i love it played well. He's just sucked the joy out of it. I have said though, we are looking less direct, and the set pieces look like they've been worked on. I'm not as pessimistic as i was before pre season started, fractionally anyhoo. Well, in my mind he's got 7 games. After City we have a run of really good fixtures up until Chelski. I suspect we'll know how its going to go before the 7 mind. The way I look at it is if we dont improve and dont start relatively well, I'm fairly sure he'll be gone. Then all we have to worry about is who is going to take over Yep, while i dont think it'll be JFK, it'll be whoever JFK selects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm not making excuses for anyone by the way They are doing my tits in as much as anyone's else. There is no denial. I'm just finding it difficult reading thats all. There was a poster yesterday who was even making things up (phil k i think) Its my own fault I suppose, I dont have to come on. Its just f***ing addictive Making things up ??? "I didn't see it therefore it's made up" Wasn't aware you sit in the dressing room at all times. You claimed 'even Pardew thinks we'll get hammered (against City)' and 'the players dont like Pardew' with absolutely no evidence to support either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 In fact you even admitted you made the first one up ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 In fact you even admitted you made the first one up ffs Ever heard of having an opinion, chum ? YOU have one and you seem to believe it's the truth the whole truth and nothing but. ITS YOUR OPINION TOO, nothing more. No more likely to be the truth than my own opinion. "I said I made it up" ? I said nothing of the sort. I said "You're right" don't take that to mean "You're right" in everything. I SAID I read his comments and see another meaning IN them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 You're INSANE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I just posted it the way I see it. If it's negative then I make no apologies for that, that's just the way it is. It's close season and while other teams have done decent business we've done pretty much f*** all. I'm not going to s*** rainbows for the sake of it. Pretty much how I see it. Theres clearly something rotten in the state of NUFC whether some wish to see things through rose tinted sodding glasses or not. Perhaps like you, I'm too depressed about whats happening (or rather NOT happening) to believe any of the "Nothing to see here, move along" we're getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 You're INSANE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 In fact you even admitted you made the first one up ffs Ever heard of having an opinion, chum ? YOU have one and you seem to believe it's the truth the whole truth and nothing but. ITS YOUR OPINION TOO, nothing more. No more likely to be the truth than my own opinion. "I said I made it up" ? I said nothing of the sort. I said "You're right" don't take that to mean "You're right" in everything. I SAID I read his comments and see another meaning IN them. Ok champ, well you keep looking for hidden meanings, I'll just stick to the black and white Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 stop shouting PLEASE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 In fact you even admitted you made the first one up ffs Ever heard of having an opinion, chum ? YOU have one and you seem to believe it's the truth the whole truth and nothing but. ITS YOUR OPINION TOO, nothing more. No more likely to be the truth than my own opinion. "I said I made it up" ? I said nothing of the sort. I said "You're right" don't take that to mean "You're right" in everything. I SAID I read his comments and see another meaning IN them. Ok champ, well you keep looking for hidden meanings, I'll just stick to the black and white Well no - thats my very point. How can you say what the press tells you is actually happening ? Mates in pub ? Rumours in street ? All or none could be utter bull. You just go with what sounds right to YOU. Which is exactly what you're doing, right ? Theres links on the net from as early as April talking of dressing room problems, lack of faith in Pardews tactics, etc Could be true, might not. None of us know for certain. So we have opinions. We just disagree thats all. Nothing bigger than that ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Links on the net!? Why didn't you mention that before? I'm with Phil, this seems pretty legit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Links on the net!? Why didn't you mention that before? I'm with Phil, this seems pretty legit. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10026476/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-sees-position-at-St-James-Park-put-in-peril-by-dressing-room-split.html Take it or leave it, usual media stuff. Believe or not. Your choice. The April one I read a while back - when you're getting very little news you grab whatevers there, not so ? Good or bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Not really many posts regarding transfers, more ranty ranty doom and gloom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Not really many posts regarding transfers, more ranty ranty doom and gloom! Sadly true. But really, little's happened to bring about any feeling of well being, has it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Links on the net!? Why didn't you mention that before? I'm with Phil, this seems pretty legit. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10026476/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-sees-position-at-St-James-Park-put-in-peril-by-dressing-room-split.html Take it or leave it, usual media stuff. Believe or not. Your choice. The April one I read a while back - when you're getting very little news you grab whatevers there, not so ? Good or bad. On the one hand there are no quotes and it is written by Luke Edwards, on the other Pardew does look pretty pissed off in that picture. As I said, I'm completely behind you on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 In fact you even admitted you made the first one up ffs Ever heard of having an opinion, chum ? YOU have one and you seem to believe it's the truth the whole truth and nothing but. ITS YOUR OPINION TOO, nothing more. No more likely to be the truth than my own opinion. "I said I made it up" ? I said nothing of the sort. I said "You're right" don't take that to mean "You're right" in everything. I SAID I read his comments and see another meaning IN them. Ok champ, well you keep looking for hidden meanings, I'll just stick to the black and white Well no - thats my very point. How can you say what the press tells you is actually happening ? Mates in pub ? Rumours in street ? All or none could be utter bull. You just go with what sounds right to YOU. Which is exactly what you're doing, right ? Theres links on the net from as early as April talking of dressing room problems, lack of faith in Pardews tactics, etc Could be true, might not. None of us know for certain. So we have opinions. We just disagree thats all. Nothing bigger than that ! Thats all well and good, but when you say things like 'its evident the players dont like Pardew' and 'even Pardew thinks we'll get hammered off City' thats not having an opinion, thats just making shit up. Its not evident the players dont like him and he never once said he thinks we'll get hammered. Thats all I was saying. Anyway, its a pissy argument, i'm off to watch Breaking Bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Links on the net!? Why didn't you mention that before? I'm with Phil, this seems pretty legit. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10026476/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-sees-position-at-St-James-Park-put-in-peril-by-dressing-room-split.html Take it or leave it, usual media stuff. Believe or not. Your choice. The April one I read a while back - when you're getting very little news you grab whatevers there, not so ? Good or bad. On the one hand there are no quotes and it is written by Luke Edwards, on the other Pardew does look pretty p*ssed off in that picture. As I said, I'm completely behind you on this one. Sorry, Caj - I'm getting jumpy - thought I was getting shot at from all sides, just for expressing what most have been THINKING ! And yes, agree. But - reading this kind of stuff, looking at the performances, you DO think the worst (or I do anyway) I mean ....0-3 to Makems, 0-6 to Liverpool. Somethings not right somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Pards getting fired would benefit this forum no end IMO JFK getting appointed would probably trim the member numbers at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 If pardew got sacked and we went down with his replacement in charge, the told you so's would echo for all eternity.......and that's a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Pards getting fired would benefit this forum no end IMO JFK getting appointed would probably trim the member numbers at least. it would for a united front of hatred It would also mean one down and only one to go, because once Kinnear's gone it would surely be impossible to not bring in a better manager than him or Pardew, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Pards getting fired would benefit this forum no end IMO JFK getting appointed would probably trim the member numbers at least. it would for a united front of hatred It would also mean one down and only one to go, because once Kinnear's gone it would surely be impossible to not bring in a better manager than him or Pardew, right? John Barnes has his go after Kinnear apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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