Darth Crooks Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So from an Islamic point of view, can someone tell me what the difference between Virgin Money and Wonga is please. Durka durka Richard Branson durka durk Wonga bakula Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So from an Islamic point of view, can someone tell me what the difference between Virgin Money and Wonga is please. You go to heaven and get loads of virgins, you go to hell and get lots of wonga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So from an Islamic point of view, can someone tell me what the difference between Virgin Money and Wonga is please. You go to heaven and get loads of virgins, you go to hell and get lots of wonga Played Sir Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Seems like a storm in a tea cup if you ask me. He'll end up wearing a sponsorless shirt and that'll be the end of it. Papiss loves the Toon man Why would Wonga agree to that? I don't imagine Wonga could do anything about it in any event. They need positive PR, rocking the boat isn't going to be top of their list. These contracts will have stuff in them requiring all players to wear shirts with the sponsor et etc. No doubt about it, it'll form part of the contract, but if Papiss (or anybody else) absolutely refuses to wear the shirt, then IMO, he'll be on the pitch in a sponsorless shirt. They can just decide to wear whatever they like then? Unless the club and Wonga are willing to budge, he'll either wear the shirt or be shown the door realistically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Fucking Barclays man, they've been fiddling PPI from people since the mid 90s and got caught red handed fiddling interest rates. ON that alone, the premiership should have ditched them in one. Yeah right. Its all rank man, you cant pick and choose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Contracts are flexible. Cisse should by himself out of the obligation if he's that arsed. Wonga should give that fee to a charity. He wants more money (according to the Independent), not less... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Seems like a storm in a tea cup if you ask me. He'll end up wearing a sponsorless shirt and that'll be the end of it. Papiss loves the Toon man Why would Wonga agree to that? I don't imagine Wonga could do anything about it in any event. They need positive PR, rocking the boat isn't going to be top of their list. These contracts will have stuff in them requiring all players to wear shirts with the sponsor et etc. No doubt about it, it'll form part of the contract, but if Papiss (or anybody else) absolutely refuses to wear the shirt, then IMO, he'll be on the pitch in a sponsorless shirt. They can just decide to wear whatever they like then? Unless the club and Wonga are willing to budge, he'll either wear the shirt or be shown the door realistically. This. Sponsorship is serious money for serious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So from an Islamic point of view, can someone tell me what the difference between Virgin Money and Wonga is please. Many people would consider Wonga to be usurious. All Western banks violate Islam by charging interest, but the excessive interest charged by Wonga may simply be more egregious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I am sure if it was someone like Man Utd or Chelsea who had Wonga as a sponsor and bid for Cisse, he would have no trouble at all pulling the shirt on. Just stinks of us being a bit shit, him not liking it and thinking of a way to fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I don't think Wonga would be too happy with Cisse in a sponsor-less shirt, especially if he is banging them in and becoming the face of the club next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I am sure if it was someone like Man Utd or Chelsea who had Wonga as a sponsor and bid for Cisse, he would have no trouble at all pulling the shirt on. Just stinks of us being a bit s***, him not liking it and thinking of a way to f*** off. Feels like the bottom line like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm not going to backread this thread but has Cisse actually been quoted as saying he wont wear the Wonga logo? I saw the shit in The Mirror but it looked decidedly 'lets make a story up' type of column filler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm not going to backread this thread but has Cisse actually been quoted as saying he wont wear the Wonga logo? I saw the shit in The Mirror but it looked decidedly 'lets make a story up' type of column filler. No quotes. It's been reported by the BBC who say (with quotes) that the PFA have got involved: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22857014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I don't think Wonga would be too happy with Cisse in a sponsor-less shirt, especially if he is banging them in and becoming the face of the club next season. I've no doubt they'd be pissed but what's the alternative for them? Star striker sold to facilitate a short term sponsorship arrangement? I just can't see it myself. Still, time will definitely answer it one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I don't blame players for being fed up with the hackjob-wheeler-dealer setup and lack of results and ambition but I'd much rather they just be up front. A quality lacking from top to bottom though I'm afraid. Hate football atm now like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I don't think Wonga would be too happy with Cisse in a sponsor-less shirt, especially if he is banging them in and becoming the face of the club next season. I've no doubt they'd be pissed but what's the alternative for them? Star striker sold to facilitate a short term sponsorship arrangement? I just can't see it myself. Still, time will definitely answer it one way or another. Complete and utter speculation, but if that scenario saw the club make money then I'm pretty sure they'd go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I don't blame players for being fed up with the hackjob-wheeler-dealer setup and lack of results and ambition but I'd much rather they just be up front. A quality lacking from top to bottom though I'm afraid. Hate football atm now like. Totally agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 This stuff has to be sorted out before players return for pre-season without fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slippery Sam Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Seems like a storm in a tea cup if you ask me. He'll end up wearing a sponsorless shirt and that'll be the end of it. Papiss loves the Toon man Why would Wonga agree to that? Think about the extra advertising Wonga would get. An absolute huge amount of subliminal advertising. A load of players running around and the sponsor logos get lost. Have one player NOT wearing the logo and the brain is stimulated big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Obviously it's only meant to be him at the minute. But with the story gathering pace it would be very interesting if all our other Muslim players also took Cisse's stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I don't blame players for being fed up with the hackjob-wheeler-dealer setup and lack of results and ambition but I'd much rather they just be up front. A quality lacking from top to bottom though I'm afraid. Hate football atm now like. Totally agree Every single one of them signed up and were happy to join this hackjob-wheeler-dealer setup. What's changed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So from an Islamic point of view, can someone tell me what the difference between Virgin Money and Wonga is please. Many people would consider Wonga to be usurious. All Western banks violate Islam by charging interest, but the excessive interest charged by Wonga may simply be more egregious. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmf5nxq2h1qmvuvlo1_500.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I don't blame players for being fed up with the hackjob-wheeler-dealer setup and lack of results and ambition but I'd much rather they just be up front. A quality lacking from top to bottom though I'm afraid. Hate football atm now like. Totally agree Every single one of them signed up and were happy to join this hackjob-wheeler-dealer setup. What's changed? Repeated quotes about being happy of being out of European competition from the very people who are to be motivating you, realisation that your employers are insincere, poor coaching and unfulfilling approaches to games, fan criticism, homesickness. Who knows? Could be any number of eye opening things you can only get from being within the setup. Without going on about him too much, it saw KK off and he was enthusiastic enough to start with and he is one of the few who are candid enough about that. There is clear disillusionment and lack of satisfaction within the team and setup which for all their rewards I can't blame some of the players for resenting. What I do resent, if it is the case is mercenary behaviour and insincerity from players and if he proves to be another of that ilk then it would be a real shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So from an Islamic point of view, can someone tell me what the difference between Virgin Money and Wonga is please. Many people would consider Wonga to be usurious. All Western banks violate Islam by charging interest, but the excessive interest charged by Wonga may simply be more egregious. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmf5nxq2h1qmvuvlo1_500.jpg Just watched that episode last night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Always my first thought when I read the word "egregious" too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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