Yorkie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 17:17, alexf said: I still think there is far more to this than just the Wonga stuff. I think the fact neither side have said fuck all about it is what's fuelling people to get into long arguments about it. I honestly don't see how a statement from the club could have made anything worse. It's just typical of the club's God-awful PR. Even if they peddled a load of bullshit (which they're great at), it might have halted any escalation in the press like this. Just a bit of a summary about what the fuck is actually going on with him, instead of saying absolutely nothing as usual, whilst allowing the tabloids to nose-dive on it like the shit-stirring vultures they are. So fucking naive, as usual. They've nose-dived on the wrong party, too. Instead of chastising Cisse, they could have made the board members look like shit by referring to the Kanoute stuff - which I've only ever seen referred to as a previous occurrence of a similar problem (not a comparison of how we've dealt with the issue so badly, as usual). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 17:26, B-more Mag said: Quote Quote Quote It's all so fucking stupid. He's a professional footballer. He knew going in that his shirt was going to have the name of a sponsor that he'd have no role in selecting in big bold letters right on the front. It's part of the gig. If he's unhappy and wants to move on he should man up and say so. If he's really having a moral/religious issue about this, then he's fucking stupid. So was Freddie Kanoute in that case. Difference there was that Sevilla's loyalty was to their star player, while we don't actually give the first fuck about being good at football so we're standing up for the loan sharks that we've jumped into bed with. Why did Kanoute wear the shirt after a game or two, anybody know ?. Quote In contrast to his previous employer, Sevilla at first permitted him to wear a shirt with no sponsor on it and then persuaded him that simply by wearing the logo it didn't imply that he was endorsing gambling. In addition he was excused personal appearances at events connected with the sponsor. A grown-up negotiation that treated the player as an adult and as a valued individual. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2007/apr/05/newsstory.sport Ah right, cheers B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 That's what makes me believe there is more to it because using the Kanoute example I can't see why he couldn't agree to wear it but be allowed to say publicly that he doesn't endorse Wonga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 If Cisse's on 40k a week like it says in the Mail article, good luck in getting Darren Bent to agree to those wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On Look North now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 He's probably contracted to do a certain number of personal appearances next to wankers on Wonga jumpsuits too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 16:22, Andymc1 said: It wasn't the harassment that made me answer some questions. It was the fact that someone asked me a question and if someone asks me something I normally answer them. Like I've said above, I never spread the picture and I don't even have twitter so hardly made sure journos knew about it. Look north wanted to do a video today which I refused as there is no way I want to be on tele. I've only said he was there that night and he was betting small amounts for a premier league player. So you didn't want to be on tele, big deal. Do you think Cisse wanted to be splashed all over the papers in a casino? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Arjen Robben interviewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Cisse's my favourite player, but enough of this rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 17:36, Ronaldo said: Cisse's my favourite player, but enough of this rubbish. Yep... It probably needed something like this to hopefully bring it to a head... Doesn't leave him with much room to wriggle despite his agent coming out today saying Cisse doesn't gamble... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 17:13, B-more Mag said: It's all so fucking stupid. He's a professional footballer. He knew going in that his shirt was going to have the name of a sponsor that he'd have no role in selecting in big bold letters right on the front. He didn't know it would be a sponsor like this though, especially as other clubs have rejected sponsorship deals due to the same issues he has. You could say "He knew he'd have to play in the role the manager gave him" but there's a difference between being asked to play as a second striker and being asked to play in nets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 17:34, Mick said: Quote It wasn't the harassment that made me answer some questions. It was the fact that someone asked me a question and if someone asks me something I normally answer them. Like I've said above, I never spread the picture and I don't even have twitter so hardly made sure journos knew about it. Look north wanted to do a video today which I refused as there is no way I want to be on tele. I've only said he was there that night and he was betting small amounts for a premier league player. So you didn't want to be on tele, big deal. Do you think Cisse wanted to be splashed all over the papers in a casino? fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 17:46, Hanskissedhispantz said: Quote Quote It wasn't the harassment that made me answer some questions. It was the fact that someone asked me a question and if someone asks me something I normally answer them. Like I've said above, I never spread the picture and I don't even have twitter so hardly made sure journos knew about it. Look north wanted to do a video today which I refused as there is no way I want to be on tele. I've only said he was there that night and he was betting small amounts for a premier league player. So you didn't want to be on tele, big deal. Do you think Cisse wanted to be splashed all over the papers in a casino? f***ing hell. The papers took it from twitter - I didn't post it on the internet. When he goes to a casino he.must know he is.going to be recognised because of the job he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 17:46, Hanskissedhispantz said: Quote Quote It wasn't the harassment that made me answer some questions. It was the fact that someone asked me a question and if someone asks me something I normally answer them. Like I've said above, I never spread the picture and I don't even have twitter so hardly made sure journos knew about it. Look north wanted to do a video today which I refused as there is no way I want to be on tele. I've only said he was there that night and he was betting small amounts for a premier league player. So you didn't want to be on tele, big deal. Do you think Cisse wanted to be splashed all over the papers in a casino? f***ing hell. Aye, what the fuck was that mick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Keep it together, Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 18:07, Oakie Doke said: Keep it together, Mick. Too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23424012? Newcastle city councillor Dipu Ahad has previously defended Cisse's stance on Wonga. He said: "I feel absolutely ashamed of what he's done, there's not just me there's been other people who've been supporting him. "But what he's done now, seeing him in the casino, even if he wasn't gambling, I think this gives a wrong message. "People will say, 'look, this is Islam they can pick and choose whatever they want', and Islam isn't about picking and choosing." What an ignorant cunt eh? Islam isn't about picking and choosing. Really? Newcastle online says differently. this guy should read up on his faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 20:36, Toon's Taylor said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23424012? Newcastle city councillor Dipu Ahad has previously defended Cisse's stance on Wonga. He said: "I feel absolutely ashamed of what he's done, there's not just me there's been other people who've been supporting him. "But what he's done now, seeing him in the casino, even if he wasn't gambling, I think this gives a wrong message. "People will say, 'look, this is Islam they can pick and choose whatever they want', and Islam isn't about picking and choosing." What an ignorant c*** eh? Islam isn't about picking and choosing. Really? Newcastle online says differently. this guy should read up on his faith. Aye read that earlier. He needs to do his research clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Should probably let him know that everyone picks and chooses anyway so, really, it's ok, and ergo, concordantly, there is no such thing as a hypocrite because you can make up whatever rules you want to follow in a religion and say you're of that religion and best of all everyone has to respect it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Personally I prefer the more moderate religious folk who are willing to let minor stuff slide - think that's being pretty flexible and accomodating with your religious beliefs, which is what people are usually in favour of. Aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 The rules he's 'making up' aren't helping his employers/peers/fans much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 20:48, Elliottman said: Quote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23424012? Newcastle city councillor Dipu Ahad has previously defended Cisse's stance on Wonga. He said: "I feel absolutely ashamed of what he's done, there's not just me there's been other people who've been supporting him. "But what he's done now, seeing him in the casino, even if he wasn't gambling, I think this gives a wrong message. "People will say, 'look, this is Islam they can pick and choose whatever they want', and Islam isn't about picking and choosing." What an ignorant c*** eh? Islam isn't about picking and choosing. Really? Newcastle online says differently. this guy should read up on his faith. Aye read that earlier. He needs to do his research clearly. I think you'll find he follows a specific brand of Islam where gambling is strictly forbidden as is picking and choosing what parts of Islam to follow. So we have to respect his views and say Cisse is bang out of order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 23/07/2013 at 20:54, Ishmael said: Quote Quote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23424012? Newcastle city councillor Dipu Ahad has previously defended Cisse's stance on Wonga. He said: "I feel absolutely ashamed of what he's done, there's not just me there's been other people who've been supporting him. "But what he's done now, seeing him in the casino, even if he wasn't gambling, I think this gives a wrong message. "People will say, 'look, this is Islam they can pick and choose whatever they want', and Islam isn't about picking and choosing." What an ignorant c*** eh? Islam isn't about picking and choosing. Really? Newcastle online says differently. this guy should read up on his faith. Aye read that earlier. He needs to do his research clearly. I think you'll find he follows a specific brand of Islam where gambling is strictly forbidden as is picking and choosing what parts of Islam to follow. So we have to respect his views and say Cisse is bang out of order. I was kidding. Of course Cisse is out of order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Me too. Religions are fucking mental and completely detrimental to the modern world, so I hate them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Ah right I don't know the fucks serious round here anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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