colinmk Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He needed benched for this game. He needed service. He gets fuck all of it. I agree with that too. His confidence is fucked though and he just isn't functioning in this side right now. I'm not saying it's his fault, he doesn't really work in a Pardew side like, so he should have been benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Thing is, what we think of movement is running down the channels so the forward can get the ball, look up and realise the is ABSOLUTELY NO ONE within 25 yards of him and either pass it back to our FB or try to win a throw in. Cisse's idea of movement is move a yard or 2 away from the CB on their blind side, making just enough space for himself if we managed to put a quality ball in. As there is just slightly above 0% chance of putting a quality ball in it is incredibly clear that he's not much good for us and we're of no use to him. What we need is the Real Ronaldo. Someone you can give a shit ball to, he'll control it, take on 5/6 defenders all on his own and score and the only reason our midfield will need to cross the half way line is to jog over and congratulate him. Job for Graham Carr that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 On his heels all game. One of his worst performances for us so far and subbed instead of Shola which says a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He needed benched for this game. He needed service. He gets fuck all of it. That's only half the problem though. His hold up play has been discussed at length, but his movement isn't great at the moment and he doesn't look sharp at all. It's easy to blame a lack of creativity from other players, but I don't think he's particularly helping them either with his forward-play. His play outside the box is rubbish. We were told that when we signed him and we can't expect him to be something he's not. He's a poacher who shouldn't be starting if we don't plan to create chances for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He needed benched for this game. He needed service. He gets f*** all of it. That's only half the problem though. His hold up play has been discussed at length, but his movement isn't great at the moment and he doesn't look sharp at all. It's easy to blame a lack of creativity from other players, but I don't think he's particularly helping them either with his forward-play. His play outside the box is rubbish. We were told that when we signed him and we can't expect him to be something he's not. He's a poacher who shouldn't be starting if we don't plan to create chances for him. This and to be honest poacher have no place in the modern game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He needed benched for this game. He needed service. He gets f*** all of it. That's only half the problem though. His hold up play has been discussed at length, but his movement isn't great at the moment and he doesn't look sharp at all. It's easy to blame a lack of creativity from other players, but I don't think he's particularly helping them either with his forward-play. His play outside the box is rubbish. We were told that when we signed him and we can't expect him to be something he's not. He's a poacher who shouldn't be starting if we don't plan to create chances for him. This and to be honest poacher have no place in the modern game. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He needed benched for this game. He needed service. He gets fuck all of it. That's only half the problem though. His hold up play has been discussed at length, but his movement isn't great at the moment and he doesn't look sharp at all. It's easy to blame a lack of creativity from other players, but I don't think he's particularly helping them either with his forward-play. His play outside the box is rubbish. We were told that when we signed him and we can't expect him to be something he's not. He's a poacher who shouldn't be starting if we don't plan to create chances for him. He has to actually look for the chances and make runs though, at the same time. He can't expect to just stand in the 18 yard box and have our creative players not only find him with a pass or a cross, but also completely remove any defenders that are marking him on his behalf. He's static as hell at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Service was no good for him, not saying he was good but yet again he's never getting balls in behind, do agree tho his movement is off and not in the right place enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He needed benched for this game. He needed service. He gets f*** all of it. That's only half the problem though. His hold up play has been discussed at length, but his movement isn't great at the moment and he doesn't look sharp at all. It's easy to blame a lack of creativity from other players, but I don't think he's particularly helping them either with his forward-play. His play outside the box is rubbish. We were told that when we signed him and we can't expect him to be something he's not. He's a poacher who shouldn't be starting if we don't plan to create chances for him. He has to actually look for the chances and make runs though, at the same time. He can't expect to just stand in the 18 yard box and have our creative players not only find him with a pass or a cross, but also completely remove any defenders that are marking him on his behalf. He's static as hell at the moment. He always goes too early, As soon as we get the ball he's off making a run hence all the offsides. The biggest problem we have is he doesn't drop into space and turn and run at the opposition either and because he's not quick we can't just play it down the flanks for him to chase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He actually made some nice moves in the box. Just the same as his 1st half season here. Just made himself the yard he needed. Difference was, the ball doesn't come anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Service was no good for him, not saying he was good but yet again he's never getting balls in behind He doesn't show for them, and when he does he either mistimes it and gets caught offside or doesn't have the sharpness to get on the end of the pass. It's as much the responsibility of the striker to create that kind of scenario as it is the midfielder. He's not playing on the shoulder effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Service was no good for him, not saying he was good but yet again he's never getting balls in behind He doesn't show for them. It's as much the responsibility of the striker to create that kind of scenario as it is the midfielder. He's not playing on the shoulder effectively. His game is about ghosting into positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Poot really but the service was dreadful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I know it was pissing down with rain but to me it looked like he couldn't get off the pitch quick enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Poot really but the service was dreadful If he needs service don't pick him... pick players who can stretch defences and actually contribute outside the 6 yard box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 There's something wrong with him for sure. Last season despite the shit service he was running his balls off and chasing things down. Not sure he has touched the ball more than ten times in thefirst two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Bent 1 Cisse 0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Looks like he's had a lobotomy in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Very poor today. Perhaps our worst performer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Hes just not that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Been shite for two games. Gouff should be ahead based on these two games, yet Gouff has played like 45mins of football in total.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Hes just not that good He's good at finishing off chances... That's the difference between when he joined and now. When he joined he had support regularly with Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Ba playing a lot closer to him than anyone is now. If you are not providing him with that sort of service its really a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 In the modern game a striker who can only finish chances is simply not very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 In the modern game a striker who can only finish chances is simply not very good He is if others can create him enough chances. Cisse´s link up play aint so bad, his touch today was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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