Skirge Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Feel really sorry for him, throw him on and still go route one, get on the deck and play give him a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thought he did relatively well as Shola's replacement tbh. Ie won a few headers, was offside a lot and never looked like scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. Agree. People just want to stick the boot in without even watching the games seems to me. What did he do apart from being offside? pretty sure his first offside was practically straight after he came on as well. People are just fed up of him now and it is no surprise considering how long it has been going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I thought he looked sharp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thought he did relatively well as Shola's replacement tbh. Ie won a few headers, was offside a lot and never looked like scoring. Cisse for Prime Minister Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. Agree. People just want to stick the boot in without even watching the games seems to me. That'll be it, yeah. Nothing to do with Cisse whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thought he did relatively well as Shola's replacement tbh. Ie won a few headers, was offside a lot and never looked like scoring. So depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 He's a disgrace to the shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The new Alan Smith with offsides replacing fouls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. Agree. People just want to stick the boot in without even watching the games seems to me. What did he do apart from being offside? pretty sure his first offside was practically straight after he came on as well. People are just fed up of him now and it is no surprise considering how long it has been going on. Strikers who play off the last man are going to get caught offside more often than most. Of course he could play in midfield like Shola or on the wing like Gouffran, but his job is to get on the end of crosses and passes and score goals. There weren't too many of those in the 30 mins he was on the pitch because Southampton bossed the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 He's a disgrace to the shirt. if I were wonga I'd be concerned with having him in one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Cisse's heat map from yesterday. Part of the problem is where he's being asked to play. http://i43.tinypic.com/xlb18i.png Mind, the other part of the problem is that he's garbage at the moment....if 'moment' means 'for about 16 months'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Playing off the last man requires some sort of intelligence and trying to beat the offside trap. He doesn't do this at all, he just runs as soon as we look to be breaking and more often than not he is caught miles offside because he doesn't look across the line or attempt to time his runs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 He doesn't play off the last man in the traditional sense. A lot of the time he just stands there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Playing off the last man requires some sort of intelligence and trying to beat the offside trap. He doesn't do this at all, he just runs as soon as we look to be breaking and more often than not he is caught miles offside because he doesn't look across the line or attempt to time his runs. Maybe if we were pushing forward rather than looking to break (at home) he would be more useful? With more player in the opposition half it would be less easy for the opposition defenders to step up and play the offside game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Playing off the last man requires some sort of intelligence and trying to beat the offside trap. He doesn't do this at all, he just runs as soon as we look to be breaking and more often than not he is caught miles offside because he doesn't look across the line or attempt to time his runs. Maybe if we were pushing forward rather than looking to break (at home) he would be more useful? With more player in the opposition half it would be less easy for the opposition defenders to step up and play the offside game. I just think we need to stop making excuses for him tbh. Remy and Gouffran have both managed to break behind or anticipate saves/deflections etc.. The Cisse defence got old a long time ago now, we are verging on blaming the position of the moon or how Capricorns always struggle to score during this month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Wonder what we could get for him in January... Would drive him to Craven Cottage if it meant we'd get Berbatov in exchange. Berba still has some years in front of him while we don't know if Cisse will ever be back to his best,. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Playing off the last man requires some sort of intelligence and trying to beat the offside trap. He doesn't do this at all, he just runs as soon as we look to be breaking and more often than not he is caught miles offside because he doesn't look across the line or attempt to time his runs. Maybe if we were pushing forward rather than looking to break (at home) he would be more useful? With more player in the opposition half it would be less easy for the opposition defenders to step up and play the offside game. I just think we need to stop making excuses for him tbh. Remy and Gouffran have both managed to break behind or anticipate saves/deflections etc.. The Cisse defence got old a long time ago now, we are verging on blaming the position of the moon or how Capricorns always struggle to score during this month. Remy and Gouffran are better at playing on the break without doubt. But when either one has been asked to play up front as the central striker they haven't exactly pulled up any trees either tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Lee Gibson @Gippa1981 1h @CissePapiss My 10 year old son is your biggest fan and he would love to meet you for an autograph Papiss Demba Cisse @CissePapiss 45m @Gippa1981 hi Lee. U can bring ur son to the training ground. I'll be happy to meet both of u. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Cisse is looking like Ali Dia atm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 He's a lovely guy and a good striker when used properly. That heat map says it all, whats the point of having a poacher when he's never in the box. There's a good striker in there but it won't be for us sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Feel really sorry for him, throw him on and still go route one, get on the deck and play give him a chance. It's hard to feel sorry for him when he hasn't looked like a footballer in a year and half now regardless of the service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I think Cisse would be a much better player if he was running onto a ball towards the opposition goal rather than trying to pluck balls out of the air or trying to play through the opposition. He's got pace yet we don't try to make use of it often enough. I don't know what's wrong with him but you can't go from being the player we signed to the player we currently see for no reason. His first half of a season was too good for him to be a shit player, shit players can't and don't do what he did for half a season. They can have good games but they don't do it for as long as he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I think Cisse would be a much better player if he was running onto a ball towards the opposition goal rather than trying to pluck balls out of the air or trying to play through the opposition. He's got pace yet we don't try to make use of it often enough. I don't know what's wrong with him but you can't go from being the player we signed to the player we currently see for no reason. His first half of a season was too good for him to be a shit player, shit players can't and don't do what he did for half a season. They can have good games but they don't do it for as long as he did. conversely good players don't be as shit as he's been for so long, its been 18 months of tripe and theres no excuses left, when Shola Ameobi has offered more to the team than you have in the season you know its bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I wonder if Aston Villa wish they'd sold Benteke? He's having a bit of a Papiss Cissé type season so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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