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I think the HBA comment was aimed at the guy who said HBA wouldn't have gotten us a single point more than we got last season :)

 

And no, the HBA Love In shall never be stopped. Deal with it.

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Just had a flashback of when everyone breathed a sigh of relief cos they thought Ba's contract clause had expired in the summer. Next day, Pardew, straight in the papers: "don't worry you massive clubs, the clause is back in January"

 

:lol: he's such a cunt.

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Cisse scored 2 in 3 after the Wigan defeat (both against Chelsea), before Wigan he scored 8 in 6 (7 in 5 in the 4-3-3 with HBA and Ba). Those successive 5 games were by far and away the best we've played under Pardew.

 

Interesting that when checking the stats I came across this from our game against Norwich at the start of the following season (game after Everton):

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/sep/23/newcastle-norwich-match-report

 

"His agent has also reportedly professed displeasure at Pardew's now preferred 4-3-3 formation, which is designed to maximise Ben Arfa's talents but has frequently seen Ba deployed in a wide role to the left of Papiss Cissé."

 

:lol:

 

My point is, the initial change in formation had nothing to do with Ba. We got hammered. Changed formation. Then subsequently had our second best result of the season. Cisse scored a brace in that game. We went on to lose at home to City and away at Everton (results that nearly always happened under Pardew).

 

Those 5 games are over-rated. We where superb against WBA & L'pool. But the Bolton game for example was just typical of our season. Tight at the back. That bit of magic = win.

 

In that same article it said Ba & Cisse swapped positions in that system: "Although he began on the left, Pardew encouraged Ba to regularly switch positions with Cissé, thereby affording him plenty of time in the central-striking role. On one occasion he gave Cissé a friendly, if slightly pointed, shove towards the left."

 

This of course being after the Everton game that Ba single-handily got us 1 point. And the Norwich game a match where Ba got us all 3 points. And Cisse went on to blast that penalty into Heaven. By the Norwich game Ba had 4 goals in 6 games, Cisse had 1 or 0. Of couse Ba would get time up front.

 

That article makes me miss Hatem so much.

 

We had great runs and poor runs under Pardew. They all about keeping it tight and having the confidence to score goals with a bit of magic. He managed better results with a far inferior team this season. Success under a Pardew side is rarely to do with systems.

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Based on comments on .cock not sure he is going anywhere this summer!?

 

Personally like to see him stay, think with a more progressive coach and hopefully attacking support, we could see the Cisse of old again. I would offer him another 2 years on his contract and that at least preserves some value as well (albeit less and less as he gets older).

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He'll do well to pass a medical elsewhere given his knee is allegedly fucked, be surprised if he just doesn't sit out his contract. Still a great option off the bench.

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£10m for a 30 yr old is good business. Would also give the club no wriggle room in failing to land a quality replacement.

Oh. they'll find a way.

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A risk to sell him until we know if the replacements can score goals at this level.  Buy 2 Rivieres to replace him and we will have a problem.

 

I would keep him till January to see how the new strikers (if they ever arrive) are doing.  His value shouldn't really drop between now and then and there would probably be more clubs interested.

 

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A risk to sell him until we know if the replacements can score goals at this level.  Buy 2 Rivieres to replace him and we will have a problem.

 

I would keep him till January to see how the new strikers (if they ever arrive) are doing.  His value shouldn't really drop between now and then and there would probably be more clubs interested.

 

 

When has that ever stopped them flogging players?

 

Shefqi Kuqi.

 

 

 

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'Sky sources understand Newcastle are willing to sell Cisse to fund moves for two new strikers.'

 

Thank God we have some saleable assets, we'd never be able to buy anyone otherwise.

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'Sky sources understand Newcastle are willing to sell Cisse to fund moves for two new strikers.'

 

Thank God we have some saleable assets, we'd never be able to buy anyone otherwise.

 

Always sell before we buy, always.  If we sell Cisse now, we might have to wait until Jan or even next summer to see if the valuations have come down on our targets.

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'Sky sources understand Newcastle are willing to sell Cisse to fund moves for two new strikers.'

 

Thank God we have some saleable assets, we'd never be able to buy anyone otherwise.

 

Always sell before we buy, always.  If we sell Cisse now, we might have to wait until Jan or even next summer to see if the valuations have come down on our targets.

By which time their valuations will have trebled. 'The prices these clubs are asking is ridiculous.'

 

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'Sky sources understand Newcastle are willing to sell Cisse to fund moves for two new strikers.'

 

Thank God we have some saleable assets, we'd never be able to buy anyone otherwise.

 

Always sell before we buy, always.  If we sell Cisse now, we might have to wait until Jan or even next summer to see if the valuations have come down on our targets.

By which time their valuations will have trebled. 'The prices these clubs are asking is ridiculous.'

 

 

"the market is very difficult in jan"

 

"how come you bought Sissoko, Gouffran, Debuchy & Haidara a few jan transfer windows ago?"

 

 

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SSN now showing a clip of him in Senegal saying he wants to stay, though.

 

He's said all along he wants to stay hasn't he? Probably why they're soon keen to pie him off - can't have players forming relationships with the area and refusing to do as they're told.

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