buzza Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Ayoze Perez scored 7 PL goals last season often not playing as the central striker, same as Cisse's record over the past three seasons. He's not ideally suited for the role, but at least he can trap a ball and get other players involved and at this stage I would trust him more to put the ball in the net if a chance fell to him than Cisse. After last season's debut season Ayoze didn't deserve to be dropped, let alone to be benched for another forward who offers absolutely nothing. That said, it was madness in the first place for people to suggest that we needed to keep Cisse as he was guaranteed to get us goals. At this point he offers little more than Gouffran or Riviere would. This X10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 As good as his goal scoring record is, his style of playing football just doesn't fit a side who wants to play patient passing football. His control and passing are just too erratic and his physical presence barely existent. He's more useful if we pair him with another striker and get the ball upfront as fast as possible. I could probably live with all the mentioned flaws to his game if his goal record was as good as you suggest, which to me would be somewhere near 15 PL goals a season or more, but it really isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bada Bing Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Still haven't come to terms how poor he was last night. He just doesn't give a s***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Still haven't come to terms how poor he was last night. He just doesn't give a s***. Yep a combination of past it, disinterested and not suited to the way we're playing. Awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Worst performance I've ever seen from him. Proper turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 CIsse is shit at starting games as he is absolutely useless when it comes to staying onside or actually needing to control a ball, he couldn't trap a bag of cement, he should only be used as an impact sub with around 20 minutes to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Hang on a second. Only a few weeks ago the majority on here were dead set against selling him (and replacing with Austin or AN Other) as Papiss Cisse supposedly was our only dependable source for goals, despite the fact that he only managed an average of 7 PL goals per season over the past three seasons whilst adding absolutely nothing positive to our general play. This season he has bundled another goal in and so is still averaging what he has done in his time here bar the first six months. What has changed for people to suddenly be so vitriolic? His style has always been languish and seemingly disinterested, his first touch has always been rubbish and his hold up play has always been non-existent. Yesterday evening was nothing new really; it's what I've been witnessing for the past few years and I would go as far as to say if Mitrovic doesn't sort himself out real soon we are in serious trouble again this season. The problem was that if we replaced Cisse with Austin we would still only have 1 recognisable Premiership striker We've since signed Mitrovic, but we'd still only have 2 strikers. Which is insane. Cisse was absolutely horrible last night, so bad that I actually think I hate him now, something which has't happened since Guthrie's performance against West Brom. But there was still no need to get rid of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Hang on a second. Only a few weeks ago the majority on here were dead set against selling him (and replacing with Austin or AN Other) as Papiss Cisse supposedly was our only dependable source for goals, despite the fact that he only managed an average of 7 PL goals per season over the past three seasons whilst adding absolutely nothing positive to our general play. This season he has bundled another goal in and so is still averaging what he has done in his time here bar the first six months. What has changed for people to suddenly be so vitriolic? His style has always been languish and seemingly disinterested, his first touch has always been rubbish and his hold up play has always been non-existent. Yesterday evening was nothing new really; it's what I've been witnessing for the past few years and I would go as far as to say if Mitrovic doesn't sort himself out real soon we are in serious trouble again this season. What's changed is last night's performance was fucking abysmal and I haven't seen him play THAT bad for us ever. He also used to look like he gave a shit, but last night, it was a heartless performance. There are times when I forgave shit b/c they'd be playing under Pardew or Carver but its a new season, new manager, and new group of players around you. That's whats changed for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav24 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 One of the worst performances I've ever seen from one of our strikers and I've seen some shite play for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Love how he just lay on the floor after that pathetic attempt at a bicycle kick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 My feeling is that he'll be infuriatingly dogshit and we'll be all be begging for Perez to play up top after ten minutes of the West Ham game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Been complaining about this clown for ages. It's almost impossible to have a good team performance with him upfront, because it is impossible to involve him in any kind of general play. Perez, Riviere or Gouffran upfront if they are available, ahead of this guy. They will do far more to help our midfielders get up the pitch and try and produce some quality around the box. Cisse really is a complete embarrassment at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Perez, yes. The other two can't score, which you tend to need from strikers, even if they are shit at holding it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Perez, yes. The other two can't score, which you tend to need from strikers, even if they are s*** at holding it up. I really don't care at this point. I would put them out there. How much have they really even played upfront up until now anyway? We have midfielders that are clearly capable of scoring, and we really need some type of effort up the pitch to allow them to come into the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Also it's not just a case of holding the ball up. It would be nice if Cisse could do one of the following, just one! Have a decent touch. Stay the hell onside. Press the defenders and goalkeeper. Run the channels. At least present some kind of physical resistance when being pushed around out there. Not lay on the ground during the match. Actually watch the ball and be aware of where it is during the match. Pass it in the general direction of our players. Not smile when you are having the worst game of any outfield player in either uniform. Get angry with yourself and the team for being absolutely terrible. Demand more of yourself and the team during the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He's looking so bad that I'd probably play Riv if he was available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anyway, I think I've found the reason he was so bad yesterday: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/papiss-cisse-answer-newcastle-uniteds-10047388 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Also it's not just a case of holding the ball up. It would be nice if Cisse could do one of the following, just one! Have a decent touch. Stay the hell onside. Press the defenders and goalkeeper. Run the channels. At least present some kind of physical resistance when being pushed around out there. Not lay on the ground during the match. Actually watch the ball and be aware of where it is during the match. Pass it in the general direction of our players. Not smile when you are having the worst game of any outfield player in either uniform. Get angry with yourself and the team for being absolutely terrible. Demand more of yourself and the team during the game. This cracked me up. Him doing it cracked me up yesterday. When he attempted the bicycle kick and just sat there on the floor for what seemed like 90 seconds.. got up and started smiling. I was in hysterics. Never seen a more gormless player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Nothing has changed in the last 2.5 years with cisse. Disgrace of a footballer and a cunt of a person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The fact he's still given start after start is unbelievable. Without those 6 months (which he's never been the same since or ever will be) his goalscoring record is apalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 His goalscoring record was great last season tbh. But he was awful thoroughly for 2 years previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He needs a partner, as shit as he was, he had nothing really to feed off. We know he can score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Meh. Think in a way he was lucky to be banned so much. Add another 10 games in the second half of the season he'd have got about 2 goals and it suddenly wouldn't look so impressive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Pointless critiquing Cisse the footballer now. If last night is anything to go by, the man has lost all interest and is basically taking the piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3235884/Papiss-Cisse-s-attitude-angers-Steve-McClaren-striker-fails-meeting-Newcastle-boss.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Must have been on the shisha. Disgraceful if true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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