The College Dropout Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 We looked better when we had 3 at the back. I don't buy the lack of service talk. We've had strikers score loads since we came back up. Can't believe we create less chances than Aston Villa. And as a striker, you should contribute to creating chances regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 There was a chance in the second-half yesterday where he was at a tight angle, we had 4 players strung along the edge of the 6-yard box pretty much with potential tap-ins, and he smashed it over. Awful decision making. Yes agreed but look at it this way...he is getting so little service in and around the box, any time he is in box with a chance of a shot, he is going to take it. This is all because the team are not supplying him with chances. He is snatching at everything he gets. Like a starving man picking things off the floor and not thinking straight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 We looked better when we had 3 at the back. I don't buy the lack of service talk. We've had strikers score loads since we came back up. Can't believe we create less chances than Aston Villa. And as a striker, you should contribute to creating chances regularly. Hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I couldn't disagree the service to Cisse was poor. But, on at least two occasions he chose to shoot when common sense sense suggested he should have done otherwise. One one occasion we had turned their defence and had two (maybe three) arriving into the six yard box - he shot, he missed, he nearly killed a supporter in row Z - he didn't look bothered at all. And will the dopey bastard ever learn the offside rule? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 When a striker is getting little service, anytime he finds himself in the box with the ball at hit feet he will take that shot. Maybe if we supplied him with more chances and he was confident that the team can produce the ball in dangerous places for him he could releax more and bring other people into play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 There was a chance in the second-half yesterday where he was at a tight angle, we had 4 players strung along the edge of the 6-yard box pretty much with potential tap-ins, and he smashed it over. Awful decision making. Yes agreed but look at it this way...he is getting so little service in and around the box, any time he is in box with a chance of a shot, he is going to take it. This is all because the team are not supplying him with chances. He is snatching at everything he gets. Like a starving man picking things off the floor and not thinking straight. Dpes Cisse help the team create chances? Do we create less chances than Wigan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 2 goals and an assist in his last 3 outings, no real complaints from me at this point in time, although I do grumble sometimes during the match when he lashes at it or stays offside rather than showing a bit of intelligence and composure. It's true we're not producing enough chances for him every match, but then it's also true that he misses more than he did last season and in his time at Freiburg. I still have my reservations on him as being the ideal striker for a 433 in the Premiership, but as long as he sticks the ball in the back of the net like he has done recently I'm more than willing to overlook his deficiencies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 There was a chance in the second-half yesterday where he was at a tight angle, we had 4 players strung along the edge of the 6-yard box pretty much with potential tap-ins, and he smashed it over. Awful decision making. Yes agreed but look at it this way...he is getting so little service in and around the box, any time he is in box with a chance of a shot, he is going to take it. This is all because the team are not supplying him with chances. He is snatching at everything he gets. Like a starving man picking things off the floor and not thinking straight. Dpes Cisse help the team create chances? Do we create less chances than Wigan? He played in Santon for our goal. So yeah he got an asist. As a whole, im not sure if we create more or less then wigan for chances...but we dont supply our striker with enough chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slippery Sam Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 There was a chance in the second-half yesterday where he was at a tight angle, we had 4 players strung along the edge of the 6-yard box pretty much with potential tap-ins, and he smashed it over. Awful decision making. Yeah, that was unbelievable. If he had just put the ball across the six yard line it would surely have been a goal to us. It was interesting to see he wouldn't look at Perch, in the first half, when he fluffed that chance. Still love the guy, but I think this is what we will always have from him i.e. periods of goals galore and periods of misses galore. Thing is, if he's missing, he must be in the right position in the first place which is a big positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Funny how when Ba was scoring, everyone said it was at the expense of the overall team play. He was also Greedy Demba, always taking he shot instead of the pass. This is definitely true with Cisse at the moment. Offers little other than flashes of brilliance. But now it's everyone else's fault. The assist was great but he rarely does anything great for the team. He's not an outlet. Rarely passes when close to goal. He doesn't hold it up. But aye, it's everyone else's fault that we don't create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Funny how when Ba was scoring, everyone said it was at the expense of the overall team play. This is definitely true with Cisse at the moment. Offers little other than flashes of brilliance. But now it's everyone else's fault. The assist was great but he rarely does anything great for the team. He's not an outlet. Rarely passes when close to goal. He doesn't hold it up. But aye, it's everyone else's fault that we don't create. Cisse and Ba are totally different kinds of forwards/strikers. Ba was able to use his strength and his ability... Cisse relies on good service. Ive rarely seen him played in on goal this season. I can only think of Villa away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Would love a Benteke type next season. Is it me, or should a pretty big lad be at the near post when defending corners? Drogba was excellent there. A bigger lad, better in the air should've been attacking that second goal and we wouldn't have conceded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 On this topic I am pretty much in agreement with you TCD, but can you not just let it rest for even one day, especially when he's been more effective in recent weeks than for months before? You really are like a broken record sometimes.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 On this topic I am pretty much in agreement with you TCD, but can you not just let it rest for even one day, especially when he's been more effective in recent weeks than for months before? You really are like a broken record sometimes.. What else am I to do, work on a Monday morning? But you're right. I make the same points x10 every day and only a few seem to understand. But it's difficult. There's a lad who apparently needs this intricate style of play, through balls etc. but he doesn't contribute to it. Doesn't link up well with his team-mates for 85 minutes but the rest of the lads are meant to pick up the slack and play this great free flowing football without Cisse contributing. It's not realistic. SAF sold RVN partly because all he did was score. Didn't contribute to overall team play and he was good in the air, fairly strong too. Cisse is even more limited and so are his team-mates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Tbf although we lost, if you told me in December that we would be competitive in any game without Krul, Coloccini, Cabaye and Ben Arfa I would never have beleived you. We also lost 2 full backs and were super unlucky not to win at a bogey ground of ours. Wigan will go down... QPR Wigan Mackems/Villa would be a dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I dunno...he was decent enough last season linking up play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I dunno...he was decent enough last season linking up play. He was. I remember being surprised by it considering we were supposedly buying a pure goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yup dave...people have short memories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 His finishing was shite yesterday, but I thought he played well apart from that. Not just the assist, his link up play was good all afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 His finishing was s**** yesterday, but I thought he played well apart from that. Not just the assist, his link up play was good all afternoon. He made two wrong decisions yesterday but because he hasnt hit the hieghts of last season he is being massively scrutinised on here and has no leeway whatsoever. Has been pushed out on the right, asked to help cover a FB, given little service and still managed to win us a couple of games with winners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The assist for Santon was a difficult first time pass,l executed superbly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The assist for Santon was a difficult first time pass,l executed superbly. You did fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's not being scrutinised more than any 10 million pound striker who is the only viable option in a squad that is massively underperforming this season would be. We are relying on him to score the goals to get us into Europe, and he's not done so consistently enough this season, although as I said, he's improved over the last couple of weeks and long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The assist for Santon was a difficult first time pass,l executed superbly. You did fuck all. Trust me, I played it with him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's not being scrutinised more than any 10 million pound striker who is the only viable option in a squad that is massively underperforming this season would be. We are relying on him to score the goals to get us into Europe, and he's not done so consistently enough this season, although as I said, he's improved over the last couple of weeks and long may it continue. Hes only 5 or so goals off last seasons tally with 8 leagues left and other euorpean games to play in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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