Skeletor Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Time to sell, sadly. Either his heart's not in it or he's just utterly crap. I agree. Will always remember his great run when he first joined but he's never getting back to that for one reason or another. We need someone who's actually of use to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Genuinely mystified what he thinks offside is. He's basically permanently standing off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 So low on confidence and we can't afford to wait for him to get it up. It's been nearly a year and a half already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 So low on confidence and we can't afford to wait for him to get it up. It's been nearly a year and a half already. I don't even think it's a confidence thing. I think he just wanted out in the summer and he's still sulking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Might have some residual value in Germany, move him on asap. So bad it is scary, and a huge liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 So low on confidence and we can't afford to wait for him to get it up. It's been nearly a year and a half already. I don't even think it's a confidence thing. I think he just wanted out in the summer and he's still sulking about it. Did anyone want him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He really needs to look at the rule book about offsides, he is so bad, he's actually worse than some Sunday league players i ref. It's mind boggling that someone who has played for as long as him, hasn't worked out the actual fucking rule yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He's always been a lazy/casual player and that's why he's always struggled with offsides. He's old enough now, it's not going to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Straight swap for Luuk de Jong please (I'll take my chance). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He's always been a lazy/casual player and that's why he's always struggled with offsides. He's old enough now, it's not going to change. There is nothing lazy or casual about looking across a line and seeing every opposition player ahead of you and still running forward. It's just rank bad play, in fact it's embarrassingly bad play. Totally brainless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It isn't the day to slate this boy, tbh. Not that I don't agree with the general sentiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It isn't the day to slate this boy, tbh. Not that I don't agree with the general sentiment. When is then, not after watching him do it during the match, the match we played today. Confused by that comment tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It isn't the day to slate this boy, tbh. Not that I don't agree with the general sentiment. When is then, not after watching him do it during the match, the match we played today. Confused by that comment tbh. Shola had been shit before Cisse came on, and by the time he was on the pitch we were all over the place in other areas. I think that's what he means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Didn't notice he was on, as is often the case these days. We won't even get our money back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It speaks volumes that Shola was shit but at this moment in time he's still light-years ahead of Cisse purely on the virtue that he can occasionally control a football or win a header. Bringing Cisse on is almost like accepting a voluntary red card, on this form he is genuinely one of the most ineffective, non-contributive footballers I've ever seen. He just runs around like a headless chicken; I'll never be able to get my head around the transformation he's made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It isn't the day to slate this boy, tbh. Not that I don't agree with the general sentiment. When is then, not after watching him do it during the match, the match we played today. Confused by that comment tbh. Shola had been shit before Cisse came on, and by the time he was on the pitch we were all over the place in other areas. I think that's what he means. Sorry Tron but reading his post again, i think your as wide of the mark as one of Cisse's shots thinking that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It speaks volumes that Shola was shit but at this moment in time he's still light-years ahead of Cisse purely on the virtue that he can occasionally control a football or win a header. Bringing Cisse on is almost like accepting a voluntary red card, on this form he is genuinely one of the most ineffective, non-contributive footballers I've ever seen. He just runs around like a headless chicken; I'll never be able to get my head around the transformation he's made. You know it's bad when you're actually disappointed to see Ameobi coming off for Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It speaks volumes that Shola was s*** but at this moment in time he's still light-years ahead of Cisse purely on the virtue that he can occasionally control a football or win a header. Bringing Cisse on is almost like accepting a voluntary red card, on this form he is genuinely one of the most ineffective, non-contributive footballers I've ever seen. He just runs around like a headless chicken; I'll never be able to get my head around the transformation he's made. When Cisse first arrived he never stopped running. I think his work rate and confidence have both dropped significantly since that time. I've given up on him at this point. I really think we need to do everything possible to bring in another striker, even if it's on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. I completely agree, a whole lot of nonsense being written. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. Laziness has nowt to do with it really - he chases down the ball, but that's about all. I could go on the pitch and do that for 90 minutes, no bother. The problem is how little he actually contributes from a footballing perspective. He doesn't hold the ball up, link the play, make effective runs, win headers, pass the ball well, have any capacity to beat a man, and so on... Worse still, he rarely even shoots these days... He's tremendously ineffective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Where's King Dawson gone anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. Laziness has nowt to do with it really - he chases down the ball, but that's about all. I could go on the pitch and do that for 90 minutes, no bother. The problem is how little he actually contributes from a footballing perspective. He doesn't hold the ball up, link the play, make effective runs, win headers, pass the ball well, have any capacity to beat a man, and so on... Worse still, he rarely even shoots these days... He's tremendously ineffective. Disagree with that like, he made some decent runs in behind their defence today but the flick on/pass was usually poor. We got a half chance from a floated diagonal to him on the right where he brought it down brilliantly and got past the defender. Problem was we didn't have anyone in the box for him to get the cross into and he stupidly decided to take a second defender on. Still don't know why we float the ball to him when he has his back to goal though, he's useless in those positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Seemed to try harder than of late but he really is the offside king. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Apart from a couple of silly offsides near the end he didn't even do too bad today when he came on, certainly wasn't 'lazy'. Agree. People just want to stick the boot in without even watching the games seems to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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