Raconteur Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Ian, I think I agree with you on virtually everything else, but in this case you are being too fair-minded. I don't know how anyone could take the repeated salutes, his tattoos, his autobiography, that interview, the incidents at Swindon, his repeated failure to categorically refute his affiliation since being hired by the mackems and be as equivocal as you have been. It's not like you're one of those people saying his politics doesn't matter, either. You seem to be saying that it's not as bad as the (admittedly increasingly media-driven) circus claims. I'd argue that it's a consistent pattern of behaviour that might generously be described as very ill-advised, and at worst as sinister (or even evil as some have said). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 so basically their CEO is a shit Adele lookalike? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/at-least-di-canio-is-honest-about-his-fascist-views-unlike-his-critics-8555980.html Interesting. "At least Di Canio is honest about his fascist views " Are you a fascist Paolo? "Uh, I do not have to answer that because there was a statement and it was very clear and this is not the houses of parliament and I don't have to talk about politics" So was that yes or no "IS RIDICULOUS! IS RIDICULOUS FOR ME! I DO NOT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, IS RIDICULOUS" Well, its society that makes people like him hide what they really are. As far as i am concern, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as long as no laws are broken. I personally find his views very concerning, and quite sick if you look at the history behind all this. Sunderland did not do themselves any favors by appointing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Ian, I think I agree with you on virtually everything else, but in this case you are being too fair-minded. I don't know how anyone could take the repeated salutes, his tattoos, his autobiography, that interview, the incidents at Swindon, his repeated failure to categorically refute his affiliation since being hired by the mackems and be as equivocal as you have been. It's not like you're one of those people saying his politics doesn't matter, either. You seem to be saying that it's not as bad as the (admittedly increasingly media-driven) circus claims. I'd argue that it's a consistent pattern of behaviour that might generously be described as very ill-advised, and at worst as sinister (or even evil as some have said). You've got a point, in general I find all right-wing views pretty repellent. My only disagreement is that I don't think he should have to refute his affiliation. If he is a fascist or has fascist sympathies then I don't think that automatically disqualifies him from management. Racists would be different IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 What is really embarrassing/frightening for Sunderland is how many of their fans seem genuinely excited by the prospect of having a self declared fascist in charge of the club Probably not a particularly well thought through appointment when they've already had fans charged for racist behaviour this season and Wearside is reputed to be fertile ground for BNP/EDL sympathisers. Someone in the club's heirarchy needs to take responsibility and make a firm and clear statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Aye, my main worry is about the effect on football fans. Will we see opposition fans taunting Sunderland with fascists salutes, or Sunderland fans using them in support of the manager? Did any of that happen at Swindon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 What is really embarrassing/frightening for Sunderland is how many of their fans seem genuinely excited by the prospect of having a self declared fascist in charge of the club Probably not a particularly well thought through appointment when they've already had fans charged for racist behaviour this season and Wearside is reputed to be fertile ground for BNP/EDL sympathisers. Someone in the club's heirarchy needs to take responsibility and make a firm and clear statement. They already made their statement on Monday. Looks like they're just gonna try and ride out the media sh*tstorm till the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 According to a bloke who works for Sunderland in helping with discrimination/racism in the community etc who was on totalsport last night, Chelsea have already had contact from people who are known to support facism for tickets in the Sunderland end for their game. He said that would be a massive problem as they now have a place to gain more publicity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Aye, my main worry is about the effect on football fans. Will we see opposition fans taunting Sunderland with fascists salutes, or Sunderland fans using them in support of the manager? Did any of that happen at Swindon? There's much talk of what happened or didn't happen at Swindon in comparison to what is going on now. The real difference is that Swindon did not have a former cabinet minister and prominent politician resign from their board in protest at the appointment of a fascist sympathiser. That created the big story and all SAFC have done since is to dig a deeper hole for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 What is really embarrassing/frightening for Sunderland is how many of their fans seem genuinely excited by the prospect of having a self declared fascist in charge of the club Probably not a particularly well thought through appointment when they've already had fans charged for racist behaviour this season and Wearside is reputed to be fertile ground for BNP/EDL sympathisers. Someone in the club's heirarchy needs to take responsibility and make a firm and clear statement. They already made their statement on Monday. Looks like they're just gonna try and ride out the media sh*tstorm till the end of the season. Sadly you're probably right , but their statement from Monday is looking very flimsy and badly out of date already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 wonder if there will be chants of "they're fascist, you knooow, the mackems and di canioooo" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/at-least-di-canio-is-honest-about-his-fascist-views-unlike-his-critics-8555980.html Interesting. "At least Di Canio is honest about his fascist views " Are you a fascist Paolo? "Uh, I do not have to answer that because there was a statement and it was very clear and this is not the houses of parliament and I don't have to talk about politics" So was that yes or no "IS RIDICULOUS! IS RIDICULOUS FOR ME! I DO NOT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, IS RIDICULOUS" I know what you're saying, but I think his latest refusal to answer questions was more a desire to move on from the issue than a desire to deny what he has said in the past. My only worry about the furore over his views is that I don't think it should necessarily be impossible for someone with strong political views to hold a senior or public position. The result of that is that everyone is battling to say that they believe the same thing and diversity of opinion is damaged. Obviously the fans and sponsors etc have the right to object to him as well. pretty much my feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The Debry is going to be fucking great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The Debry is going to be f***ing great. So gutted I can't go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The Debry is going to be f***ing great. So gutted I can't go Aye, thats gotta be painful like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 wonder if there will be chants of "they're fascist, you knooow, the mackems and di canioooo" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 wonder if there will be chants of "they're fascist, you knooow, the mackems and di canioooo" Class! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 wonder if there will be chants of "they're fascist, you knooow, the mackems and di canioooo" :lol: Or 'Oh Oh Oh he's fascist, you knooooow. Paoli Di Canio" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Well that should be getting an airing class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 wonder if there will be chants of "they're fascist, you knooow, the mackems and di canioooo" :lol: Or 'Oh Oh Oh he's fascist, you knooooow. Paoli Di Canio" *Benito Di Canio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 "You gotta fight... For the Right... Beniiiiiito" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Paolo give us a wave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Always love a mental manager on MOTD as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Paolo give us a wave so simple yet so good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 wonder if there will be chants of "they're fascist, you knooow, the mackems and di canioooo" :lol: Or 'Oh Oh Oh he's fascist, you knooooow. Paoli Di Canio" glorious that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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