JH Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hopefully. We can't get Liverpool in this can we? Don't think we can until the knockout rounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 So, at present, in the play-off round (which is what we'll enter if we finish 5th) there is: Stuttgart, Sporting, Metalist, PSV, AZ, Alkmaar. Yikes, quite a pool already. We have to play one of them? Shit, I don't want Europa league either Amongst several others yet to be determined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Inter Milan? I'd love to see us play at San Siro again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I'd take Inter in the semis like. Fancy a run in Europe tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hopefully if we played Inter they'd field a weakened team, a return to Milan would be class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKSC Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Rennes would be nice, I could visit the ancestral home of my family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 When most leagues have ended can we have a list of the teams we may end up playing? Can't wait to see who we might play in the Europa next year, (deliberately not mentioning the champions league). As it stands these look to be the likely participants from the other big leagues: Bayer Leverkusen Stuttgart Hannover Lazio or Udinese Napoli Inter Milan Lyon Marseille Rennes Sporting Lisbon Marítimo PSV or Feyenoord AZ Heerenveen plus the winner of the Dutch league's Europa play-offs. La Liga is still wide open with just 4 points seperating 5-10, currently Atletico Madrid and Mallorca look like going through, but both could snatch fourth place from Malaga on the final day. Bilbao will definitely go through as cup runners-up. But we're mint so we'll be fine... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Nowt to fear there. Respect, yes. Fear, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Isn't there some sort of seeding where teams who enter at the playoff round play teams who have qualified from 3rd qual round? Taken from 2011/12 Europa League guidebook... Seeding of clubs 9.02 The UEFA administration seeds clubs for the qualifying phase, the play-offs and the group stage, in accordance with the club coefficient rankings established at the beginning of the season and with the principles set by the Club Competitions Committee. If, for any unforeseen reason, any of the participants in such rounds are not known at the time of the draw, the coefficient of the club with the higher coefficient of the two clubs involved in an undecided tie will be used for the purposes of the draw. If the titleholder takes part in the group stage, it is always the top seed. 9.03 For seeding purposes, rankings are drawn up on the basis of a combination of 20% of the value of the respective association’s coefficient for the period from 2006/07 to 2010/11 inclusive and the clubs’ individual performances in the UEFA club competitions during the same period. Each club retains the cumulative number of points obtained during this period. 9.04 When seeding is applicable, an equal number of clubs will be seeded and unseeded. Make of that what you will but looking at last years draw the 3rd qualifier looks like it was seeded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 So we're unlikely to be seeded as we've ony played in Europe for one of those seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 So we're unlikely to be seeded as we've ony played in Europe for one of those seasons. Nah, that's from this season so we won't have any of that. It'll just be the slice of England's league rating. So our coefficient will be about 16.857 which gives us a ranking of about 105 out of all teams in UEFA. Saying that Stoke got an OK draw to get to the groups this year against Hajduk and Thun and were seeded in the playoff round and they'd have the same coefficient as we did going into it. Either way it's a nice problem to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 UEFA confirm this mythical 'extra place' doesn't exist: Titleholder The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship. a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the titleholder's association is entitled in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League does not change. http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/Regulations/01/63/02/44/1630244_DOWNLOAD.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Someone should tell Moyes, he was banging on about still being in the hunt for a Europa league spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 UEFA confirm this mythical 'extra place' doesn't exist: Titleholder The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship. a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the titleholder's association is entitled in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League does not change. http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/Regulations/01/63/02/44/1630244_DOWNLOAD.pdf Yes it does, read paragraph b below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 UEFA confirm this mythical 'extra place' doesn't exist: Titleholder The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship. a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the titleholder's association is entitled in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League does not change. http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/Regulations/01/63/02/44/1630244_DOWNLOAD.pdf Yes it does, read paragraph b below. Chelsea have qualified though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 UEFA confirm this mythical 'extra place' doesn't exist: Titleholder The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship. a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the titleholder's association is entitled in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League does not change. http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/Regulations/01/63/02/44/1630244_DOWNLOAD.pdf Yes it does, read paragraph b below. Chelsea have qualified though. Aye I've just re-read it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Someone should tell Moyes, he was banging on about still being in the hunt for a Europa league spot. I understand that you'll have variations depending on Cup wins/league placings. But it's an absolute fucking joke that Premier League managers don't know the rules. Stuff like this needs to be more clearly clarified earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy1963 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Regardless of who we get, as it'll be August, let's hope we get somewhere near a beach, and a Jet2 or Easyjet destination, for 2 or 3 days in the sun. 'Cos we'll not get a bloody summer here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Would love to get somewhere really random that I wouldn't go to for non-football reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR15 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Nordsjælland, Standard Liège, Sochaux, OR Lazio away please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Definitely not Lazio, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 denmark would be great, i'd have somewhere to stop in copenhagen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Nordsjælland, Standard Liège, Sochaux, OR Lazio away please. We'd play them both home and away mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Nordsjælland, Standard Liège, Sochaux, OR Lazio away please. We'd play them both home and away mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Aside from getting your arse slashed by a scooter based radgee a trip to Rome would be ideal as we'd get fuck loads of tickets and it's a canny place to visit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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