Beren Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 For those looking for an update this morning - there's been no further comment overnight which would suggest he remains in a critical condition. Cat, if that's the case, is it a bad thing for his long-term chances that his condition hasn't improved/he isn't stable after so many hours? I know no one knows specifics, but.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Defibs are already routinely available in public places but most people don't know about them. They're in the malls of the Metrocentre and Eldon Square, and in places like leisure centres. They're also totally user-friendly and speak instructions to the user. They won't administer a shock unless it has analysed a heart rhythm that is 'shockable' (not all arrest rhythms are) More people need to know but then how do you teach it to the wider public without major advertising or funding. It's a real shame. The only place I've noticed them is at 5aside football places. I went to florida last year and they were absolutely everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 For those looking for an update this morning - there's been no further comment overnight which would suggest he remains in a critical condition. Cat, if that's the case, is it a bad thing for his long-term chances that his condition hasn't improved/he isn't stable after so many hours? I know no one knows specifics, but.. My dad was critical for days after a massive heart attack, 20 years later and 70 years old and he's still alive. I wouldn't write a 23 year old athlete off yet. I would think the longer it goes on the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 For those looking for an update this morning - there's been no further comment overnight which would suggest he remains in a critical condition. Cat, if that's the case, is it a bad thing for his long-term chances that his condition hasn't improved/he isn't stable after so many hours? I know no one knows specifics, but.. My dad was critical for days after a massive heart attack, 20 years later and 70 years old and he's still alive. I wouldn't write a 23 year old athlete off yet. I would think the longer it goes on the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Two totally different conditions. A heart attack is a artery blockage. A cardiac arrest is when the heart suddenly stops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 For those looking for an update this morning - there's been no further comment overnight which would suggest he remains in a critical condition. Cat, if that's the case, is it a bad thing for his long-term chances that his condition hasn't improved/he isn't stable after so many hours? I know no one knows specifics, but.. As Mick has said - no, it's not really an immediate concern. The fact that he hasn't actually died is the crucial thing at this point. We don't know whether he's even regained consciousness but I would strongly suspect that he's in a medically induced coma at the mo which is standard, and therefore still critical, but critically stable if that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Cheers for the layman's terms updates/explanations Cath hoping he makes a full recovery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Awful, awful news, hope he pulls through. Thanks Cath for explaining what is going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Best wishes, strength and prayers are with Fabrice! Be strong Fabrice you can do it. Best wishes to him, and thoughts are with him and his family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Two totally different conditions. A heart attack is a artery blockage. A cardiac arrest is when the heart suddenly stops. They are different conditions, in both cases you have a better chance of recovery the further you get from the initial problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Defibs are already routinely available in public places but most people don't know about them. They're in the malls of the Metrocentre and Eldon Square, and in places like leisure centres. They're also totally user-friendly and speak instructions to the user. They won't administer a shock unless it has analysed a heart rhythm that is 'shockable' (not all arrest rhythms are) More people need to know but then how do you teach it to the wider public without major advertising or funding. It's a real shame. The only place I've noticed them is at 5aside football places. I went to florida last year and they were absolutely everywhere I believe it is law in some states for them to be available in certain areas over there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Just seen this, shit! Hope you pull through lad, shocking when anything like this happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Just found out about this now. Reading the match preview thread I had assumed the worst, but hopefully there's a chance he will still pull through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Definitely had a cardiac arrest, remains in a "critical condition". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Is this fairly rare, or are there many more cases other than the well-publicised ones? It seems to be fairly frequent over the last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Get well big fella! Praying for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Is this fairly rare, or are there many more cases other than the well-publicised ones? It seems to be fairly frequent over the last few years. Chap on SSN just said it's around 1 in 50,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Is this fairly rare, or are there many more cases other than the well-publicised ones? It seems to be fairly frequent over the last few years. It's not common but yeah, it happens more than anyone hears about. It happens to people of all ages, sizes, shapes and backgrounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Still in shock about this. Thanks to everyone really for your support/compassion. We may all support different clubs but at the end of the day there are more important things than mere club allegiances and I'm glad that everyone has united over this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Only seen this now. Awful, awful stuff, really hope the lad pulls through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 It was horrible hearing this on the radio as it happened. It's a shocking situation but it will hopefully lead to compulsory screening for things like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 There's a picture of van der Vaart praying on the pitch for Muamba that brings a tear to my eye when I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Only found out about this this morning, really really hope he gets better. Really nice lad on all accounts, just needs to hold on. Would he be able to play football again after this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyzer Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Only found out about this this morning, really really hope he gets better. Really nice lad on all accounts, just needs to hold on. Would he be able to play football again after this? Unfortunately i think it would be extremely unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Probably the least of people's worries right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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