Mick Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 well turning your nose up on a few competitions to concentrate on just two is not a bad thing. could mean more chance of doing well in those campaigns. lets be honest, whats the big deal about winning the fa cup or the carling cup, regardless of when we last won anything? I hope you find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 i know some of our fans are very insecure that they may get branded 'trophy virgins' but im not one of them. i really couldn't care less about the fa cup or the league cup. almost every team field weakened sides. whats special about those trophies. its just carpet bagging. Don't have kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 i know some of our fans are very insecure that they may get branded 'trophy virgins' but im not one of them. i really couldn't care less about the fa cup or the league cup. almost every team field weakened sides. whats special about those trophies. its just carpet bagging. Don't have kids. or if you do , have them support Chelsea or Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 And btw, we can win it ffs. We have one of the best front line in Europe with some class players dotted around the team and a world class GK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not a wind-up, i always thought most fans have accepeted this. and it was only the older generation and older fans who still hold the fa cup as some kind of prestigious competition. it use to be yes. it was prestigious with great tradition,. it WAS i know you guys got that nostalgia, the imagery flooding back in your minds on the tv screen of the teams walking out of that corner and seeing the twin towers and all that. the memories of teams walking up the steps to pick up that cup with the colour ribbons of the triumphant side and having royalties waiting up there to hand out the congratulations. hey i remember all that stuff as well! but times have changed fellers. it really has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Getting into the Europa League will make NUFC more attractive to players and will help NUFC keep the players we want to keep. It would also stretch our squad. I think one of the reasons we've done so well this season is that we haven't had long cup runs in the Carling and FA cups. I imagine the squad players and youngsters would get more game time which will help with their development. We would need a bigger squad to cope with the number of fixtures. I think the pluses outweigh the minuses. Has being in Europe hurt or helped Stoke? They seem to be more or less where they usually are in the table. Spot on. It has been a remarkable season and getting into europe this season would be a fantastic achievment. Pardew clearly highlighting the pro's and con's but deep down you know he wants to be in europe next year. It would be one of his best acheivments in his managerial career and im sure he thinks our first team would be a strong force in the Europa League with a few additions. It's progression, rapid progression when you think of its context within the last 5 years under. He obviously fancies the Champions League, saying we could attack next season without the pressures of the Europa League suggests it. Also explains why he's been so coy when talkin about where we want to finish. You never know Alan, get it right and we could be in the CL year! Results can go our way and if we stay "on it" we could well push past Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not a wind-up, i always thought most fans have accepeted this. and it was only the older generation and older fans who still hold the fa cup as some kind of prestigious competition. it use to be yes. it was prestigious with great tradition,. it WAS i know you guys got that nostalgia, the imagery flooding back in your minds on the tv screen of the teams walking out of that corner and seeing the twin towers and all that. the memories of teams walking up the steps to pick up that cup with the colour ribbons of the triumphant side and having royalties waiting up there to hand out the congratulations. hey i remember all that stuff as well! but times have changed fellers. it really has. You are wrong, simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 It would be quite funny being in it to poke fun at the mackems. From relegation and apparently destined for a Leeds-style slump in the lower-leagues to European football again within 3 years. A competition they'd give their left bollock to play in. Ha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not a wind-up, i always thought most fans have accepeted this. and it was only the older generation and older fans who still hold the fa cup as some kind of prestigious competition. it use to be yes. it was prestigious with great tradition,. it WAS i know you guys got that nostalgia, the imagery flooding back in your minds on the tv screen of the teams walking out of that corner and seeing the twin towers and all that. the memories of teams walking up the steps to pick up that cup with the colour ribbons of the triumphant side and having royalties waiting up there to hand out the congratulations. hey i remember all that stuff as well! but times have changed fellers. it really has. Oh shut up. I'm 23 and I live in another country and I would kill for us to win the FA Cup. Heck, winning the League Cup would be absolutely brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 If we get to a final again, I hope this kid is nowhere near Wembley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Calling the League Cup a micky mouse competition I can understand, I would fucking love us to win it like. I've never once met anyone who holds the same opinion as you regarding the FA Cup though, it's just complete horse shite, every word of that. It's more than likely a gay wind up though so this is the last i'll say on the matter. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44667000/jpg/_44667547_d23eb585-3fbd-414c-a94e-caf0c51dff86.jpg shit etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 to help increase the profile of the club and attract new players - yes its worth it, shame it is not really worth it financially though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not a wind-up, i always thought most fans have accepeted this. and it was only the older generation and older fans who still hold the fa cup as some kind of prestigious competition. it use to be yes. it was prestigious with great tradition,. it WAS i know you guys got that nostalgia, the imagery flooding back in your minds on the tv screen of the teams walking out of that corner and seeing the twin towers and all that. the memories of teams walking up the steps to pick up that cup with the colour ribbons of the triumphant side and having royalties waiting up there to hand out the congratulations. hey i remember all that stuff as well! but times have changed fellers. it really has. You are wrong, simple as that. you disagree fine, but explain to me, if the fa cup is so grand and special, why do mid table and top teams field weakened sides, yes i can forgive the bottom teams who foresee themselves battling for survival who also field understrength sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 If we get to a final again, I hope this kid is nowhere near Wembley. Would probably sit and boo as we held up the trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Really do not understand some people on here like, every team should go out 100% to win every competative tournament, simple as. Even if we won the league cup next season it would be a great success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 If we got to the quarters/semis in the Europa League, the atmoshare at SJP would be immense, too. That alone makes it worthy getting there. Not to forget some great away days as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Really do not understand some people on here like, every team should go out 100% to win every competative tournament, simple as. Even if we won the league cup next season it would be a great success. because some of us live in reality, field 100% of your top team for all four competition is unrealistic, somewhere has to give. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 to help increase the profile of the club and attract new players - yes its worth it, shame it is not really worth it financially though. We'll make a lot more money by being it you know 'Not financially worth it' ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not a wind-up, i always thought most fans have accepeted this. and it was only the older generation and older fans who still hold the fa cup as some kind of prestigious competition. it use to be yes. it was prestigious with great tradition,. it WAS i know you guys got that nostalgia, the imagery flooding back in your minds on the tv screen of the teams walking out of that corner and seeing the twin towers and all that. the memories of teams walking up the steps to pick up that cup with the colour ribbons of the triumphant side and having royalties waiting up there to hand out the congratulations. hey i remember all that stuff as well! but times have changed fellers. it really has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrew Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I think we'd do pretty well in this. the affect on league position is overrated too, we'll rotate a bit and probably see people like shola, gosling, leon playing in the qualifiers and group stage. After that I'd fancy us to progress pretty far. It's also extra games to enjoy and more fixtures to keep talking about- it's exciting and shows we're on themove. also to help increase the profile of the club and attract new players - yes its worth it, shame it is not really worth it financially though. We'll make a lot more money by being it you know 'Not financially worth it' ffs :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Really do not understand some people on here like, every team should go out 100% to win every competative tournament, simple as. Even if we won the league cup next season it would be a great success. because some of us live in reality, field 100% of your top team for all four competition is unrealistic, somewhere has to give. I was not saying they should field the same team in all four competitions, i am saying they should give 100% in each, and should not be saying that because it is the FA cup/ league cup/ Europa league it doesnt matter as much as the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 to help increase the profile of the club and attract new players - yes its worth it, shame it is not really worth it financially though. We'll make a lot more money by being it you know 'Not financially worth it' ffs Each team taking part this term will collect a €640,000 (£527,000) participation bonus together with a match bonus of €60,000 (£50,000) for every match played in the group stage. They can add to this total minimum amount of €1m (£824,000) through a series of performance-related rewards, starting with €140,000 per win (£115,000) and €70,000 per draw (£57,000) in their group games. By way of example, if a side wins all six of their group fixtures they will earn a total of €1.84m from the competition by Christmas. Progress beyond that point will trigger further bonus payments worth: €200,000 for reaching the round of 32, €300,000 for the round of 16, €400,000 for the quarter-finals and €700,000 for the semi-finals. The prize money for the clubs that go all the way to the final will be €3m for the eventual winner and €2m for the runner-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 to help increase the profile of the club and attract new players - yes its worth it, shame it is not really worth it financially though. We'll make a lot more money by being it you know 'Not financially worth it' ffs Each team taking part this term will collect a €640,000 participation bonus together with a match bonus of €60,000 for every match played in the group stage. They can add to this total minimum amount of €1m through a series of performance-related rewards, starting with €140,000 per win and €70,000 per draw in their group games. By way of example, if a side wins all six of their group fixtures they will earn a total of €1.84m from the competition by Christmas. Progress beyond that point will trigger further bonus payments worth: €200,000 for reaching the round of 32, €300,000 for the round of 16, €400,000 for the quarter-finals and €700,000 for the semi-finals. The prize money for the clubs that go all the way to the final will be €3m for the eventual winner and €2m for the runner-up. It does look shit like when you choose to ignore revenue brought in through televised games and global exposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 this is not a wind-up, i always thought most fans have accepeted this. and it was only the older generation and older fans who still hold the fa cup as some kind of prestigious competition. it use to be yes. it was prestigious with great tradition,. it WAS i know you guys got that nostalgia, the imagery flooding back in your minds on the tv screen of the teams walking out of that corner and seeing the twin towers and all that. the memories of teams walking up the steps to pick up that cup with the colour ribbons of the triumphant side and having royalties waiting up there to hand out the congratulations. hey i remember all that stuff as well! but times have changed fellers. it really has. You are wrong, simple as that. you disagree fine, but explain to me, if the fa cup is so grand and special, why do mid table and top teams field weakened sides, yes i can forgive the bottom teams who foresee themselves battling for survival who also field understrength sides. The FA Cup is the oldest knockout cup competition in the world with mountains of tradition and history. If you dont think it's special, you are following the wrong sport. Maybe you should be following Polo or Gymnastics instead of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 £1.5m for winning all 6 group game £165,000 for getting to last 32 £247,000 for getting to the last 16 £330,000 for getting to the QF £577,000 for getting to the SF £1.6m for the losing finalist £2.4m for winners Plus a max of £5.2m from TV revenue depending on how far you get in the competition So basically £10.5m for winning, the main exposure will be for new players, i voted yes fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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