Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 new tactics please, these ones aren't working Thing is, we generally always look like this at home against the poor teams. We shouldn't be playing Perch, that's for sure. Agreed. Not offering anywhere near enough defensively or offensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 time for changes- back to 4 3 3. Take off Ba and put Ferguson/Gosling on. This doesn't make sense. Take off Ba but go 4-3-3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 That's HBA back to his former old of his first games for us this season. Selfish. Not really. Bolton are compact around their 18 yard box. Long range efforts will be needed. Yes, but he should be having the eye for the team member instead of the eye for the goal at times really. He has been. If you get a chance to look at that play again look at what options he had. Ba and Cissé. Ba cut across him into the shooting lane. There wasn't a passing lane (outside of an audacious chip without the outside of foot over the defense to Ba). Cissé was also marked. Bolton are compact really right around their box. Passing lanes just aren't there. Only options are long range efforts to force them to close down quickly (which will open them up and create passing lanes), or to go down the flanks and get a cross in (Bolton have 2 meathead CBs to contest those crosses). Fair enough. If he scores or - as you say - opens up some space for the team members then it'll be allright. It'll take a lapse in concentration on Bolton's part, or bit of magic to score as things are going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Comfortable first half, but I don't think we'll hold out for the whole game. Offered absolutely nothing going forward though, Mark Davies needs to get in the game more. I can't tell if he's talented, or is getting the Scott Parker effect of looking like a class player because he's surrounded by crap (West Ham last season). He is talented, but quite inconsistent and needs to improve on his end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 4-3-3 Push Cabaye further forward Why the fuck has he changed it? One reason: Demba Ba very important to our chances of success imo aye cabaye has been looking great recently in that role. i don't think we've played too badly, it's just we're 20 yards deeper than we need to be if we want to consistently create chances. we can't advance our way up the pitch as neither forward really keeps possession, ben arfa's isolated and hugging the touch-line, cabaye's closer to colo than he is to ba and cisse etc. the couple of times we've looked a bit better has been when Ben Arfa's pushed up and drifted centrally, if Cabaye was within passing distance we'd be able to craft some coherent attacks, instead he's usually to be found alongside santon or simpson. not sure why we've changed the system tbh, hasn't even benefitted Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Simpson needs to overlap hba more in a 442 to draw a defender away They know he won't pass to him. Simpson did a couple of overlaps but didnt get the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Calm your passions lads. Second half to go yet. This fucking place at times is like a fucking High School. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/avs/avatar_9207_1333812133.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 time for changes- back to 4 3 3. Take off Ba and put Ferguson/Gosling on. This doesn't make sense. Take off Ba but go 4-3-3? Ba is looking exhausted, whereas Fergie did really well in that system against Swansea. If Ba is still poor after 10 minutes, bring on the Shane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 We should put Shola on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think we started with a flat 4-4-2, but switched it up a little bit after about 15 minutes. It still isn't the same formation we've seen for the last few weeks though. Can see why he changed it - we've been total gash this last couple of weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 This has been a total borefest. Trying to stay awake while watching but it's hard going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Ba<>Fergie. Bit of pace, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 4-3-3 Push Cabaye further forward Why the f*** has he changed it? One reason: Demba Ba very important to our chances of success imo They are not going to get behind us, they are playing Davies up on his own ffs Lets push on ..........................Perch............................ .............Cabaye.................Jonas............. HBA..................................................Ba .............................Cisse.......................... This ! why the f*ck didnt we start with this for crying out loud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 4-3-3 Push Cabaye further forward Why the f*** has he changed it? One reason: Demba Ba This sums it it up perfectly. Ba has a face like a smacked arse, need to think about winning, not him scoring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Comfortable first half, but I don't think we'll hold out for the whole game. Offered absolutely nothing going forward though, Mark Davies needs to get in the game more. I can't tell if he's talented, or is getting the Scott Parker effect of looking like a class player because he's surrounded by crap (West Ham last season). He is talented, but quite inconsistent and needs to improve on his end product. Seems to have quick feet. Doesn't look like he should be able to dribble as well as he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Papiss Cisse will score at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Everything's fine. The game will become stretched and deadly cisse, HBA or Ba will put one away. I don't think we played poorly, just didn't get the breaks and Bolton have been really motivated to get to every first ball. Up the tempo second half and get HBA on the ball as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 0-0 written all over it if we don't go for the jugular with extreme gusto imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 4-3-3 Push Cabaye further forward Why the f*** has he changed it? One reason: Demba Ba This sums it it up perfectly. Ba has a face like a smacked arse, need to think about winning, not him scoring Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiroMole Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Calm your passions lads. Second half to go yet. This f***ing place at times is like a f***ing High School. Don't project your fantasies onto us or I'll steal your lunch money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Definitely finishing 6th now. Cmon everton I suppose http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcgz3ugnqX1qb2s6uo1_500.png nibble. Not even watching it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Papiss Cisse will score at some point. He always does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I know everything there is to know about Phil Brown. :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlackAndWhite Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 poor half that like, can only get better ..............can't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think it's easy to blame the change in formation but our players will be tired and Bolton basically have 10 men behind the ball with the one up front just battling the defenders. It hasn't been good but it's not that unexpected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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