Ronaldo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Another player who's shit all because of Pardew. Quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Personally, I wish Santon would look comfortable playing RB and we could get Dummett developing into our starting LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 It would definitely help him if we had a manager who was able to play a way where we are on the front foot a lot of the time. When i saw him at Lille and for France i was very impressed with him when the team was in possession and going forward and thus got excited when we were linked. He never had to do the amount of defending he does now so i wasn't aware he was this shit defensively, but with all that said he'd still be an accident waiting to happen as he's defence is going to be crap no matter the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 He doesn't even look particularly impressive going forward. I'd rather he stayed at home unless we where chasing a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 He doesn't even look particularly impressive going forward. I'd rather he stayed at home unless we where chasing a game. Tbf i think that's better for the team as a whole.... i have come to the realisation that we are a much better team when there is more space to exploit and teams come at us than we are asked to break the opposition down. For this reason and call me crazy i'm confident for the Everton game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Haven't given up on Debuchy yet. I'll reserve final judgment until the end of this season assuming he gets a consistent run in the side. As far as Danny Simpson, still glad he's not playing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 It's his motivation. If he only came here as he missed his mate, then it's showing. When Cabaye is in a mood then likely Debuchy will be. Pretty pathetic really. He just needs to knuckle down and start becoming a premiership player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I never thought Simpson was as bad as others used to make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I haven't written Debuchy off but when players under perform they need to be dropped. In the league cup i'd go with mostly the same team as against Hull Except with Dummett in for Debuchy (and Santon swapping sides), Gouffran in for Cisse and Marveux or Vuckic in for Cabaye (i'd prefer Marveux but I don't think Pardew seems him there at all). Then these players know that they are playing for these positions. A good game against Leeds can get them a start against Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 http://s16.postimg.org/nsniotr85/hull.jpg That says it all really. Clearly the plan was to target Debuchy in particular (and the combination of HBA/Debuchy as well) and it worked a treat. The bulk of Hull's attack came from their left for a very good reason. Whether the answer is Santon on the right and Dummett on the left, or MYM on the right and Steven Taylor back in the middle - I don't know. But Debuchy needs to have pressure applied to his starting place; he's just not been good enough, no matter his reputation before arriving here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 We don't play on the front foot enough to have an attacking RB with HBA loosely infront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I imagine opponents target the right much more because of HBA than because of Debuchy mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 He's not THAT shit He's in bad form but he will come good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I imagine opponents target the right much more because of HBA than because of Debuchy mind. It works both ways, they need to have extra men back when we get HBA on the ball and running at them. It just comes down to which manager susses it correctly, and in this case it was Agent Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 If HBA goes on one of those runs Debuchy needs to sit back and hold his position unless we're in a position where he can overlap and attack right? Alternatively, that's why I've always been Pro-MYM next to him for the sheer fact that the man has pace to close space down should we be caught-out. It just doesn't help that when we're caught out its nearer to our goal and we haven't been able to clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 If HBA goes on one of those runs Debuchy needs to sit back and hold his position unless we're in a position where he can overlap and attack right? Alternatively, that's why I've always been Pro-MYM next to him for the sheer fact that the man has pace to close space down should we be caught-out. It just doesn't help that when we're caught out its nearer to our goal and we haven't been able to clear. That wasn't my problem on Saturday.... my main gripe with Debuchy was his constant day dreaming wandering in field leaving a massive gap to exploit. The rest of the team couldn't adapt to his idiocy quick enough, usually when Debuchy is on the overlap for Ben Arfa we are defensively prepared for it because its something we try to do and cover for it. This wasn't in the playbook so to speak and the rest of the team starts to have major holes in it because of one mans idiocy. It reminds me a lot of Vermealen for Arsenal tbh, half the time you don't know what he's going to and so from a positional point of view it causes a major problem for the whole team as they don't know how to react to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Rob Scanlon @RobScanlon_TV 27m Rob Elliot told me today that Mathieu Debuchy's nickname is 'psycho' after "an incident involving a fire extinguisher in Portugal" #NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Despite his other present failings he's better in the air than Williamson! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Move to centre back and target him on our set pieces. Two birds one stone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I still think he will come good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Move to centre back and target him on our set pieces. Two birds one stone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Rob Scanlon @RobScanlon_TV 27m Rob Elliot told me today that Mathieu Debuchy's nickname is 'psycho' after "an incident involving a fire extinguisher in Portugal" #NUFC Made me laugh. He looks a loose cannon too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Move to centre back and target him on our set pieces. Two birds one stone. I'm worried that he's serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Rob Scanlon @RobScanlon_TV 27m Rob Elliot told me today that Mathieu Debuchy's nickname is 'psycho' after "an incident involving a fire extinguisher in Portugal" #NUFC He put out a small fire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Rob Scanlon @RobScanlon_TV 27m Rob Elliot told me today that Mathieu Debuchy's nickname is 'psycho' after "an incident involving a fire extinguisher in Portugal" #NUFC He put out a small fire. Mental cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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