Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I guess the difference between him and the rest of the youngsters mind is that he's played first-team football in the Championship and here. Might not be the worst thing in the world if he stayed, trained daily learning from the likes of Cabaye & Anita then loan him out next season, or even the last couple of months to another club. Isn't the deadline something like March? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 How long is he out injured for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/mark-douglas-gaels-tale-should-6684677#.UvT1zNSpcK8.twitter "But since bursting onto the scene he has gone backwards. The last time I spoke to someone with influence at Newcastle they suggested it might never happen for him at the club, despite the obvious talent he had. When asked why, there was no real explanation." Jesus wept I'm glad we have coaches who seem to know what they are doing. Mental this, like. Actually irritated me reading that. Honestly thought we had a potential gem on our hands when we signed him. His attitude has always seemed first class as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If we ever sorted out our fucking shit reserve/youth coaching we'd be getting somewhere. It's been clearly an afterthought for far, far too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not enough games on the right-wing versus Nicolas Gaitan is my diagnosis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not enough games on the right-wing versus Nicolas Gaitan is my diagnosis. Jesus christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/mark-douglas-gaels-tale-should-6684677#.UvT1zNSpcK8.twitter "But since bursting onto the scene he has gone backwards. The last time I spoke to someone with influence at Newcastle they suggested it might never happen for him at the club, despite the obvious talent he had. When asked why, there was no real explanation." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This guy should be coming on regularly, as should Sammy, Tavernier (who got loaned out), Ferguson and Dummet. However, thanks to the way we play i.e. never being comfortable in any game, ever. We never have the luxury of giving them a run out. This guy can play, always like him when he's played. Doesn't play with any hesitancy or fear, and tries to make things happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Really like the look of Bigi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 They're all doing a shit job, and can then just come out and say so and so aren't good enough, but I'll never buy it. Our manager is a con artist, and so are all of his sidekicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Maybe he's stagnated because he never plays professional football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Maybe he's stagnated because he never plays professional football. You and your crazy left field ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Thought he'd been injured for ages? Or was it 'injured'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hasn't just been in the reserves all season, popping up in Sammys instagram videos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Well now we've learned that we had a terrible Reserve team manager to go with our terrible first team manger and our terrible director of football. It's not that surprising that's he's stalled along with a few others.. Developing young players (so he can sell them later) should be in Ashley's best interest, it's the cheapest way to be competitive if they are developed right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 And if our reserve/youth coaches also happen to be massive racists, that can't have helped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This guy should be coming on regularly, as should Sammy, Tavernier (who got loaned out), Ferguson and Dummet. However, thanks to the way we play i.e. never being comfortable in any game, ever. We never have the luxury of giving them a run out. This guy can play, always like him when he's played. Doesn't play with any hesitancy or fear, and tries to make things happen. These players are better out on loan playing competitive games than sitting on our bench (if they're lucky). I read that we tried to loan out Bigirimana but no Championship club wanted him and NUFC didn't want to loan him to a League 1 club. He currently has a foot/ankle injury according to: - http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php After regularly starting games at the beginning of Ferguson's loan to Birmingham City he now comes off the bench now and again. I would have thought NUFC would have recalled him if they thought he was being wasted by Birmingham. Maybe he's just not good enough? Tavernier seems to be doing well in League 1 but Vučkić doesn't seem to be doing that well. The ideal scenario with our young players would be to get them out on loan to other clubs as early as possible. NUFC need other clubs to want to loan them though. Armstrong will hopefully go out on loan next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'm so pleased we play 'front foot football'. I'm not sure what that is exactly, but I'm sure when somebody at the club works it out, they can teach it to the young players, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 The biggest red flag is that we can't get any of these guys loaned out and when we do it's to a lower division. Vuckic was at Cardiff two seasons ago and now he's at Rotherham.. Bigi won the Championship's Apprentice of the Year Award and now can't find anyone to take him. Something isn't working here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Trouble is in any argument to their ability, there's a pattern forming, at one time Vukic was hot property across Europe, we stole a march on him iirc and we've all seen what Bigi can do, even Ferguson was showing promise when he came into out first team. Yet they ALL seem to be failing OR more likely we are failing them. None of us are in a position to say which way the blame lies but it doesn't look good on our coaching team. It's not doing Ashley's business model any good and it's not exactly making us an attractive proposition to potential youth signings. Anyone know how Good is doing btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Trouble is in any argument to their ability, there's a pattern forming, at one time Vukic was hot property across Europe, we stole a march on him iirc and we've all seen what Bigi can do, even Ferguson was showing promise when he came into out first team. Yet they ALL seem to be failing OR more likely we are failing them. None of us are in a position to say which way the blame lies but it doesn't look good on our coaching team. It's not doing Ashley's business model any good and it's not exactly making us an attractive proposition to potential youth signings. Anyone know how Good is doing btw? You can add Kadar to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 It's a tough one. Young players very rarely live up to the potential they show when they are younger. 17-20 years old is a key point in player development where they will either sink or swim. We may well have fucked up our end of the deal by not doing enough to develop these players but there are so many other things that can go wrong, and do go wrong, that it's impossible to lay the blame directly at the feet of the coaching staff. It can come down to attitude (Nile Ranger), players just not progressing beyond a certain level (Alan O'Brien), or never developing enough physically (Richard Offiong). Kadar, who was mentioned above, had a hard time with injuries, didn't he? I'm sure that the coaching staff we have can be improved upon, without question. But a lot of it comes down to the players themselves. The likes of Vuckic have opportunities to prove themselves now. Some use those opportunities well and flourish (Fraser Foster) and others don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/mark-douglas-gaels-tale-should-6684677#.UvT1zNSpcK8.twitter "But since bursting onto the scene he has gone backwards. The last time I spoke to someone with influence at Newcastle they suggested it might never happen for him at the club, despite the obvious talent he had. When asked why, there was no real explanation." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Depressing reading, even in the trouble and strife of last season I thought he looked good. Probably needs to learn to be 6'4 or be a tackle to get on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Couldn't see any great desire to win football matches... No great loss... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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