The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 In his absence the other two's passing stats haven't got any better. Nothing players. Who don't affect the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 But can he pass to Mbemba quickly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Tiote always wants the ball, the other two do not. Whenever he's played alongside either of them (sigh) he tends to make close to twice as many passes. He also attempts to play the situation in the game. If we are down, he's going for that forward pass and it's going to be ugly. He doesn't lose the ball as a % of his passes anymroe than the other two. But he makes a lot more passes so the increase in poor passes looks worse. Basically. He's not a "nothing" player. But he'll play terribly very loudly. Anita's entire game is looking for the ball, are you fucking high? He's good at almost nothing else but wanting the ball, taking the ball and moving it on without losing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Energy and desire That Tiote hasn't been seen in like 4 years, almost want him to play again so people can have their memory refreshed. I don't need my memory refreshed, I didn't accept he was as bad as was made out last year either, and that's despite playing alongside either Colback or Anita. I'd like to see him being the only defensive midfielder for a change. At least he has a defined role unlike Colback and some physical presence unlike Anita. It's between Anita and Tiote for the defensive role for me, Colback is too slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Unlike most, Tiote's passing isn't my issue with him. It's the complete lack of positional awareness ( got away with it before due to playing alongside Cabaye and his overall energy) and it doesn't defend at all well anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Tiote always wants the ball, the other two do not. Whenever he's played alongside either of them (sigh) he tends to make close to twice as many passes. He also attempts to play the situation in the game. If we are down, he's going for that forward pass and it's going to be ugly. He doesn't lose the ball as a % of his passes anymroe than the other two. But he makes a lot more passes so the increase in poor passes looks worse. Basically. He's not a "nothing" player. But he'll play terribly very loudly. Anita's entire game is looking for the ball, are you f***ing high? He's good at almost nothing else but wanting the ball, taking the ball and moving it on without losing it. If that's the case - why doesn't he lead the team in pass attempts per 90 minutes? why does he make less passes per 90 minutes than Tiote? In fact, it's remarkably similar to serial hide and seek competitor Colback. And he's just going to pass to Colo & Mbemba in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Tiote always wants the ball, the other two do not. Whenever he's played alongside either of them (sigh) he tends to make close to twice as many passes. He also attempts to play the situation in the game. If we are down, he's going for that forward pass and it's going to be ugly. He doesn't lose the ball as a % of his passes anymroe than the other two. But he makes a lot more passes so the increase in poor passes looks worse. Basically. He's not a "nothing" player. But he'll play terribly very loudly. Anita's entire game is looking for the ball, are you f***ing high? He's good at almost nothing else but wanting the ball, taking the ball and moving it on without losing it. If that's the case - why doesn't he lead the team in pass attempts per 90 minutes? why does he make less passes per 90 minutes than Tiote? In fact, it's remarkably similar to serial hide and seek competitor Colback. And he's just going to pass to Colo & Mbemba in any case. You're the only person on this forum who thinks that stats alone prove a fucking thing. This shite you've just posted, how many forward passes does tiote complete? How many chances does he create? What does he do in the opposition box with the ball? I know the answer, those numbers mean nothing, he's as bad at the things you criticise Anita and Colback for, worse probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Your first line is incorrect. My eyes show me Anita does nothing and the stats back it up. The stats aren't just numbers - you can see where he's passing and who too. He doesn't influence the game. If he did, the stats would reflect it. They don't because he doesn't. And the stuff there's no stats for like.. tracking your man. He's shit at that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all fucking game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all f***ing game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night. One of the most ridiculous posts I've read on here and that's no mean feat! Nowt wrong with Anita, it's everyone else's fault he's been absolutely sh*t since he signed for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Energy and desire That Tiote hasn't been seen in like 4 years, almost want him to play again so people can have their memory refreshed. I don't need my memory refreshed, I didn't accept he was as bad as was made out last year either, and that's despite playing alongside either Colback or Anita. I'd like to see him being the only defensive midfielder for a change. At least he has a defined role unlike Colback and some physical presence unlike Anita. It's between Anita and Tiote for the defensive role for me, Colback is too slow. Agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Fucking hell, just remembered we ended the Man Utd game with a midfield 3 of Anita, Tiote & Colback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 You could never say of Tiote that he goes missing tbf, like you can the other two. Constantly looking for the ball. My memory is probably shit but I still think Tiote is a better bet than the other two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Doesn't go missing although you often wish he had. When was the last time he played a full game? Must've been nearly a year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Unfortunately he's not suited to the EPL. The midfield 'enforcer' should probably be in the mould of a defensively minded version of Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 If it's a choice of him or Cack Jogback getting dropped it will be him. Wouldn't play either of them on Saturday personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all f***ing game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night. One of the most ridiculous posts I've read on here and that's no mean feat! Nowt wrong with Anita, it's everyone else's fault he's been absolutely sh*t since he signed for us Should probably read one of your own posts then. It's obvious as fuck that his job yesterday was to receive the ball from the defence and start the play from there. If you look at his movement when he's not on the ball, he's constantly showing for it, who else did that yesterday? That's right, absolutely no one. Suppose it's easier though to just look at him being close to West Ham players when they scored and say that he didn't win the tackles and therefore he was shite instead of actually watching us play. Going to repeat this again, I'm not saying he was great yesterday, but he did the basics of what he was supposed to do. The one that didn't was Colback, who I assume is the one who should be ahead of Anita and pick the ball up from him but was nowhere to be seen except for when he got his daft yellow and when he was jogging back for their second goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all f***ing game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night. One of the most ridiculous posts I've read on here and that's no mean feat! Nowt wrong with Anita, it's everyone else's fault he's been absolutely sh*t since he signed for us Should probably read one of your own posts then. It's obvious as f*** that his job yesterday was to receive the ball from the defence and start the play from there. If you look at his movement when he's not on the ball, he's constantly showing for it, who else did that yesterday? That's right, absolutely no one. Suppose it's easier though to just look at him being close to West Ham players when they scored and say that he didn't win the tackles and therefore he was s**** instead of actually watching us play. Going to repeat this again, I'm not saying he was great yesterday, but he did the basics of what he was supposed to do. The one that didn't was Colback, who I assume is the one who should be ahead of Anita and pick the ball up from him but was nowhere to be seen except for when he got his daft yellow and when he was jogging back for their second goal. Hes sh*t man. In time you'll realise that. You're just slower on the uptake than most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Classic retort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all f***ing game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night. One of the most ridiculous posts I've read on here and that's no mean feat! Nowt wrong with Anita, it's everyone else's fault he's been absolutely sh*t since he signed for us Should probably read one of your own posts then. It's obvious as fuck that his job yesterday was to receive the ball from the defence and start the play from there. If you look at his movement when he's not on the ball, he's constantly showing for it, who else did that yesterday? That's right, absolutely no one. Suppose it's easier though to just look at him being close to West Ham players when they scored and say that he didn't win the tackles and therefore he was shite instead of actually watching us play. Going to repeat this again, I'm not saying he was great yesterday, but he did the basics of what he was supposed to do. The one that didn't was Colback, who I assume is the one who should be ahead of Anita and pick the ball up from him but was nowhere to be seen except for when he got his daft yellow and when he was jogging back for their second goal. You're wasting your time man, these guys are wondering why a defensive midfielder playing in front of the back four didn't make any forward passes into the opposition penalty area. He did actually win a few good challenges and ping the ball forward in the first half before it all went to shit. Whether he's good enough is a different matter, but I'd be asking that question about a few others before him at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all f***ing game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night. One of the most ridiculous posts I've read on here and that's no mean feat! Nowt wrong with Anita, it's everyone else's fault he's been absolutely sh*t since he signed for us Should probably read one of your own posts then. It's obvious as f*** that his job yesterday was to receive the ball from the defence and start the play from there. If you look at his movement when he's not on the ball, he's constantly showing for it, who else did that yesterday? That's right, absolutely no one. Suppose it's easier though to just look at him being close to West Ham players when they scored and say that he didn't win the tackles and therefore he was s**** instead of actually watching us play. Going to repeat this again, I'm not saying he was great yesterday, but he did the basics of what he was supposed to do. The one that didn't was Colback, who I assume is the one who should be ahead of Anita and pick the ball up from him but was nowhere to be seen except for when he got his daft yellow and when he was jogging back for their second goal. You're wasting your time man, these guys are wondering why a defensive midfielder playing in front of the back four didn't make any forward passes into the opposition penalty area. He did actually win a few good challenges and ping the ball forward in the first half before it all went to s***. Whether he's good enough is a different matter, but I'd be asking that question about a few others before him at this point. Forget last night. He's done nowt since we signed him over 3 years ago, West Ham last season and a canny performance v Southampton this season apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He was absolute shite last night, there's no point coming between the centre halves to receive the ball if all you're going to do is give it straight back to them. He's scared to dribble out with the ball because either he can't or fears getting bullied off it. Then when people do break past him, he doesn't even try and stick a foot in as he knows he will likely get bullied again. He plays scared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all f***ing game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night. One of the most ridiculous posts I've read on here and that's no mean feat! Nowt wrong with Anita, it's everyone else's fault he's been absolutely sh*t since he signed for us Should probably read one of your own posts then. It's obvious as f*** that his job yesterday was to receive the ball from the defence and start the play from there. If you look at his movement when he's not on the ball, he's constantly showing for it, who else did that yesterday? That's right, absolutely no one. Suppose it's easier though to just look at him being close to West Ham players when they scored and say that he didn't win the tackles and therefore he was s**** instead of actually watching us play. Going to repeat this again, I'm not saying he was great yesterday, but he did the basics of what he was supposed to do. The one that didn't was Colback, who I assume is the one who should be ahead of Anita and pick the ball up from him but was nowhere to be seen except for when he got his daft yellow and when he was jogging back for their second goal. Hes sh*t man. In time you'll realise that. You're just slower on the uptake than most. Well argued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He was absolute shite last night, there's no point coming between the centre halves to receive the ball if all you're going to do is give it straight back to them. He's scared to dribble out with the ball because either he can't or fears getting bullied off it. Then when people do break past him, he doesn't even try and stick a foot in as he knows he will likely get bullied again. He plays scared. On that I will agree with you, if you want a defensive midfielder who can dribble out with the ball, then he's not really your man. I'm not sure who is though, I can't recall the last holding midfielder we had who actually did that. Probably one of the reasons why we kept trying to sign Michael Carrick before he eventually went to Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Have we ever had a defensive midfielder who can "dribble out with the ball" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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