loki679 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Are we only signing players from the first few letters of the alphabet now? Cisse, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Debuchy, Douglas, Anita, De Jong, Amalfitano...... Good spot, you might be Santon to something there. Hmm, good point, i might need to think this obertan a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Are we only signing players from the first few letters of the alphabet now? Cisse, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Debuchy, Douglas, Anita, De Jong, Amalfitano...... Good spot, you might be Santon to something there. Hmm, good point, i might need to think this obertan a bit more. trying to work marveaux into moreover but i'm just too tired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoranBadlund Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Are we only signing players from the first few letters of the alphabet now? Cisse, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Debuchy, Douglas, Anita, De Jong, Amalfitano...... Good spot, you might be Santon to something there. Hmm, good point, i might need to think this obertan a bit more. Tiotelly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Are we only signing players from the first few letters of the alphabet now? Cisse, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Debuchy, Douglas, Anita, De Jong, Amalfitano...... You can add Clyne for Palace and Bargmania from Coventry if it is not ABCD we don't touch them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Are we only signing players from the first few letters of the alphabet now? Cisse, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Debuchy, Douglas, Anita, De Jong, Amalfitano...... Good spot, you might be Santon to something there. Hmm, good point, i might need to think this obertan a bit more. Tiotelly. I haven't a Shefki Kuqi what's going on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Correct me if I'm de Jong, but I think Luuk will be a marveauxless signing. If he can settle in, obertan he'll become a very good player for us.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 not sorry enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Stop being so Krul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 This ain't Good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
localshop Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/disapoint/grand/36599548-disapoint-reaction.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Perch him up top next to Cisse and I'm sure Alan will have already Cheik-ed the midfield can be Taylor-made to suit all Pardy's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Silly is fun sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Was checking a FC Twente forum and one of the posters indicated an interesting possibility with regards to the double deal scenario: considering the trouble with Douglas has been a number of representatives wanting a piece of the pie of any prospective deal, what if we're trying to tie up a double deal for let's say 18 million euros and make it 17,5 million for De Jong and 0,5 for Douglas? That would potentially leave these Douglas hanger-ons in the dark and could give the players and clubs the deal they want. Would that be legal, never heard of that sort of deal happening in the past. Douglas's agents would be royally screwed if a deal like this was struck. Can't see why it would be illegal. The hard part may be convincing Douglas about this course of action, depending on how formal his obligations are to these hanger-ons.. technically it would be fraud i think. Why would it be fraud? Surely the selling and buying parties agree a fee; that's not up to the agent? Wonder how these sort of clauses work in a part exchange situation, or when the player and club decide to run a deal down.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Steve Harper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Was checking a FC Twente forum and one of the posters indicated an interesting possibility with regards to the double deal scenario: considering the trouble with Douglas has been a number of representatives wanting a piece of the pie of any prospective deal, what if we're trying to tie up a double deal for let's say 18 million euros and make it 17,5 million for De Jong and 0,5 for Douglas? That would potentially leave these Douglas hanger-ons in the dark and could give the players and clubs the deal they want. Would that be legal, never heard of that sort of deal happening in the past. Douglas's agents would be royally screwed if a deal like this was struck. Can't see why it would be illegal. The hard part may be convincing Douglas about this course of action, depending on how formal his obligations are to these hanger-ons.. technically it would be fraud i think. Why would it be fraud? Surely the selling and buying parties agree a fee; that's not up to the agent? Wonder how these sort of clauses work in a part exchange situation, or when the player and club decide to run a deal down.. deliberatly selling something under value to avoid other costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Stop being so Krul Zing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Was checking a FC Twente forum and one of the posters indicated an interesting possibility with regards to the double deal scenario: considering the trouble with Douglas has been a number of representatives wanting a piece of the pie of any prospective deal, what if we're trying to tie up a double deal for let's say 18 million euros and make it 17,5 million for De Jong and 0,5 for Douglas? That would potentially leave these Douglas hanger-ons in the dark and could give the players and clubs the deal they want. Would that be legal, never heard of that sort of deal happening in the past. Douglas's agents would be royally screwed if a deal like this was struck. Can't see why it would be illegal. The hard part may be convincing Douglas about this course of action, depending on how formal his obligations are to these hanger-ons.. technically it would be fraud i think. Why would it be fraud? Surely the selling and buying parties agree a fee; that's not up to the agent? Wonder how these sort of clauses work in a part exchange situation, or when the player and club decide to run a deal down.. deliberatly selling something under value to avoid other costs. Value of a player is so arbitrary though, I'm not sure they'd be able to prove it was under value as it's entirely up to the club how valued he is to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Selling under value in itself isn't fraud. But if they could prove they agreed to sell De Jong for £4m more in order to remove £4m from Douglas's price to avoid paying fee's then that would be fraudulent. Maybe if they sold him for a couple of million they could argue that Douglas had only one year left and had refused to come back to the club (which he has I think?) and that's why he was sold on the cheap. I agree that 500k would look very suspicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Was checking a FC Twente forum and one of the posters indicated an interesting possibility with regards to the double deal scenario: considering the trouble with Douglas has been a number of representatives wanting a piece of the pie of any prospective deal, what if we're trying to tie up a double deal for let's say 18 million euros and make it 17,5 million for De Jong and 0,5 for Douglas? That would potentially leave these Douglas hanger-ons in the dark and could give the players and clubs the deal they want. Would that be legal, never heard of that sort of deal happening in the past. Douglas's agents would be royally screwed if a deal like this was struck. Can't see why it would be illegal. The hard part may be convincing Douglas about this course of action, depending on how formal his obligations are to these hanger-ons.. technically it would be fraud i think. Why would it be fraud? Surely the selling and buying parties agree a fee; that's not up to the agent? Wonder how these sort of clauses work in a part exchange situation, or when the player and club decide to run a deal down.. deliberatly selling something under value to avoid other costs. Value of a player is so arbitrary though, I'm not sure they'd be able to prove it was under value as it's entirely up to the club how valued he is to them. quite possible but given that we made a bid for douglas (did we/didn't we ? can't properly remember now) then to get him within the same window for a load less might set off the bells (not within uefa mind as they couldn't give a shit about finacial irregularities) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Was checking a FC Twente forum and one of the posters indicated an interesting possibility with regards to the double deal scenario: considering the trouble with Douglas has been a number of representatives wanting a piece of the pie of any prospective deal, what if we're trying to tie up a double deal for let's say 18 million euros and make it 17,5 million for De Jong and 0,5 for Douglas? That would potentially leave these Douglas hanger-ons in the dark and could give the players and clubs the deal they want. Would that be legal, never heard of that sort of deal happening in the past. Douglas's agents would be royally screwed if a deal like this was struck. Can't see why it would be illegal. The hard part may be convincing Douglas about this course of action, depending on how formal his obligations are to these hanger-ons.. technically it would be fraud i think. Why would it be fraud? Surely the selling and buying parties agree a fee; that's not up to the agent? Wonder how these sort of clauses work in a part exchange situation, or when the player and club decide to run a deal down.. deliberatly selling something under value to avoid other costs. Who determines the value except for the buying and selling clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Steve Harper. Zany student. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 A season or two ago in Norway, Stabæk sold a player and and option for another player for around £500,000. They divided it so 80% of the money was the option and 20% was for the player, to pay as little as possible to Nantes who were to recieve 50% of the transfer. http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/10/28/football-scandal-hits-clubs-stab%C3%A6k-and-valerenga/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veigar_P%C3%A1ll_Gunnarsson_transfer_2011 Wouldn't want us to go down that road.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I'd be very happy if we could get both of these guys then either Debuchy or Clyne and a midfielder. It would be helpful if we could get someone who can play across the midfield from the wing to the centre. Jonas is weak with his final balls on the wing and is more effective in the centre but I'd honestly be happy to let him go if we got another player who is better than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I wouldn't want us to do that kind of thing if it means ripping off another club. But if it means ripping off some agents?, absolutely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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