Guest Roger Kint Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Haven't spent fuck all in 18 months and we are worrying about spending 8 million. How pitiful we are When we realistically need three strikers its not pitiful at all to question £8m on one who doesnt score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Shouldn't be a problem. We're in line for a £60m+ profit this season and the money the club makes is reinvested in the club, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Luuk as a striker has been piss poor but as a number 10 he has had some encouraging moments. Link up play is good, wins a lot of fouls but as a number 10 you also have to show attacking intent and get a few goals and assists. So I'd give him a few more matches and see if he can work on his end product Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I like him, but ultimately don't think we can afford to have this kind of player in the team, because we don't utilize him properly, due to our crap build up play ,and he's not enough of a great athlete to carve out opportunities out of nothing, which is what we often rely upon. We're a shambolic disgrace of a side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He would be a good signing along with another couple of strikers and an attacking midfielder. But if we can't buy those players there's no point in signing him permanently. I like him though, seems an intelligent player with good touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I don't follow German football so I don't know how good Borussia Mönchengladbach are or how they play but they couldn't find a way to "utilize" Luuk de Jong "properly". Do Borussia Mönchengladbach have wingers? Do they create many goal scoring chances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I don't follow German football so I don't know how good Borussia Mönchengladbach are or how they play but they couldn't find a way to "utilize" Luuk de Jong "properly". Do Borussia Mönchengladbach have wingers? Do they create many goal scoring chances? Good questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I don't follow German football so I don't know how good Borussia Mönchengladbach are or how they play but they couldn't find a way to "utilize" Luuk de Jong "properly". Do Borussia Mönchengladbach have wingers? Do they create many goal scoring chances? If you watch the game against Fulham you might have noticed that for all his poor form, it was Cisse who was getting in positions to score goals. If Borussia Mönchengladbach have wingers you'd fancy he would be more likely to be on the end of the crosses ahead of LDJ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I don't follow German football so I don't know how good Borussia Mönchengladbach are or how they play but they couldn't find a way to "utilize" Luuk de Jong "properly". Do Borussia Mönchengladbach have wingers? Do they create many goal scoring chances? I did find this article and put it on here right before he signed http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1886885-should-luuk-de-jongs-bundesliga-failure-concern-premier-league-suitors/page/2 Borussia Monchengladbach manager Lucien Favre has phased out the No. 9 position at the club, which is why Luuk de Jong, a €15 million signing from Twente, does not have a future at Gladbach. De Jong scored six league goals in 23 league games last season in a campaign adversely affected by knee surgery and resentment towards Favre. De Jong must wonder how different his debut season would have been if he had assistance from Max Kruse or Raffael. Kruse, an all-round attacker, was Freiburg's MVP after being involved in 19 league goals (11 scored and eight assisted) and could be included in the German 2014 FIFA World Cup squad. Raffael, an audacious, crowd-pleasing footballer, was looking to rebound after a tough period at Dynamo Kyiv and spent the last half of the season on loan at Schalke. Arriving at Gladbach, Raffael had the inside-track having played under Favre at FC Zurich and Hertha Berlin. Instead of Kruse and Raffael competing to play behind De Jong, Favre radically altered Gladbach's playing style to cater to a 4-4-2 without a No. 9. De Jong has thus been frozen out (he averages 7.4 minutes in the Bundesliga this season). Both Kruse and Raffael are deep-lying forwards, dropping into midfield to facilitate, taking on opposing players and conjuring up moments of brilliance every game (and it's been working beautifully so far, with 16 goals and eight assists between them). De Jong is a classic example of the Gladbach administrators wanting him but the manager, Favre, objecting and being burdened with a player that isn't his. "Our head coach Lucien Favre has said from the start he didn't have 100 percent confidence in De Jong filling the striker position," Borussia board member Hans Meyer said, via Sky Sports. Meanwhile, sporting director Max Eberl said, via Sky Sports: "It's a difficult situation for Luuk, but we are just as happy to have him first in our squad as other clubs would be when they have such a player." By going to a formation without a No. 9, Favre knows there is no going back for De Jong. Favre is pushing De Jong out of Gladbach, so this is the context behind his struggles that you need to factor in when you're assessing him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He would be a good signing along with another couple of strikers and an attacking midfielder. But if we can't buy those players there's no point in signing him permanently. I like him though, seems an intelligent player with good touch. Is pretty much the way I see it too Ian. Sadly,soley due to the continued failings of the regime to adequately plan and reinvest and because of our inept management structure, we need a massive rebuilding phase this summer imo, and I have zero faith in them doing it. Next season is going to be hellish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I don't follow German football so I don't know how good Borussia Mönchengladbach are or how they play but they couldn't find a way to "utilize" Luuk de Jong "properly". Do Borussia Mönchengladbach have wingers? Do they create many goal scoring chances? I did find this article and put it on here right before he signed http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1886885-should-luuk-de-jongs-bundesliga-failure-concern-premier-league-suitors/page/2 Borussia Monchengladbach manager Lucien Favre has phased out the No. 9 position at the club, which is why Luuk de Jong, a €15 million signing from Twente, does not have a future at Gladbach. De Jong scored six league goals in 23 league games last season in a campaign adversely affected by knee surgery and resentment towards Favre. De Jong must wonder how different his debut season would have been if he had assistance from Max Kruse or Raffael. Kruse, an all-round attacker, was Freiburg's MVP after being involved in 19 league goals (11 scored and eight assisted) and could be included in the German 2014 FIFA World Cup squad. Raffael, an audacious, crowd-pleasing footballer, was looking to rebound after a tough period at Dynamo Kyiv and spent the last half of the season on loan at Schalke. Arriving at Gladbach, Raffael had the inside-track having played under Favre at FC Zurich and Hertha Berlin. Instead of Kruse and Raffael competing to play behind De Jong, Favre radically altered Gladbach's playing style to cater to a 4-4-2 without a No. 9. De Jong has thus been frozen out (he averages 7.4 minutes in the Bundesliga this season). Both Kruse and Raffael are deep-lying forwards, dropping into midfield to facilitate, taking on opposing players and conjuring up moments of brilliance every game (and it's been working beautifully so far, with 16 goals and eight assists between them). De Jong is a classic example of the Gladbach administrators wanting him but the manager, Favre, objecting and being burdened with a player that isn't his. "Our head coach Lucien Favre has said from the start he didn't have 100 percent confidence in De Jong filling the striker position," Borussia board member Hans Meyer said, via Sky Sports. Meanwhile, sporting director Max Eberl said, via Sky Sports: "It's a difficult situation for Luuk, but we are just as happy to have him first in our squad as other clubs would be when they have such a player." By going to a formation without a No. 9, Favre knows there is no going back for De Jong. Favre is pushing De Jong out of Gladbach, so this is the context behind his struggles that you need to factor in when you're assessing him Oh the days of having a manager who had balls, a plan and mettle to buy his own players. Mind you, I wouldn't want Pardew having any of the above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 "Conjuring up moments of brilliance every game" Brilliance, aka Magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He did nothing today to convince me NUFC should buy him. Did he have a shot today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He did nothing today to convince me NUFC should buy him. Did he have a shot today? Had a few that were blocked IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He did nothing today to convince me NUFC should buy him. Did he have a shot today? The big question is, can he shoot? Cant remember seeing him hit a decent shot on goal since he came here. Back to your question, he cleared the ball over their goal after the Cisse chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He was awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He was on the radio during the week saying that he was changing his game because he was being asked to do more defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He had zero impact at all today, very poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Completely ineffective today. Not sure whether it was his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Would like to see him play with two proper wide men in our side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He was absolutely gash today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Outshone by a patently out of form Cisse. However much Mochengladbach want they need to half it the knock a couple of million off because he's looked terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Don't think he was that bad today he linked the play well some nice one twos etc. He's clearly a link player who could probly play in the hole, to get the best out of him we need players moving in advance of him exploiting the space he's created Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He wasn't a link player in the Netherlands, he was a striker. If he is no longer a striker then he is of no use to us. We have more than enough players who offer no goal threat. His link up play didn't create many (any?) chances today did it? Let's face it, he has played against Fulham and Crystal Palace and not looked like scoring. If he can't look like scoring against teams from the bottom of the Premiership I doubt he'll do it against the better teams. As for seeing him play when we play two proper wide men, we haven't got two proper wide men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 He wasn't a link player in the Netherlands, he was a striker. If he is no longer a striker then he is of no use to us. We have more than enough players who offer no goal threat. His link up play didn't create many (any?) chances today did it? Let's face it, he has played against Fulham and Crystal Palace and not looked like scoring. If he can't look like scoring against teams from the bottom of the Premiership I doubt he'll do it against the better teams. He's being asked to defend more, that's hardly going to help his natural game is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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