madras Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 reading between the lines i'm guessing we've possibly agreed a fee with twente, as have monchengladbach and maybe someone else and it's upto the player. they can offer champs league football and similar to us (big support, seemingly a plan about the direction of the club, a club recently on the rise), the thing not to discount and it's something I don't quite understand, is the esteem in which the premier league is held over the bundesliga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 reading between the lines i'm guessing we've possibly agreed a fee with twente, as have monchengladbach and maybe someone else and it's upto the player. they can offer champs league football and similar to us (big support, seemingly a plan about the direction of the club, a club recently on the rise), the thing not to discount and it's something I don't quite understand, is the esteem in which the premier league is held over the bundesliga. He'd be their #1 centre forward though, which works in their favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 reading between the lines i'm guessing we've possibly agreed a fee with twente, as have monchengladbach and maybe someone else and it's upto the player. they can offer champs league football and similar to us (big support, seemingly a plan about the direction of the club, a club recently on the rise), the thing not to discount and it's something I don't quite understand, is the esteem in which the premier league is held over the bundesliga. He'd be their #1 centre forward though, which works in their favour. could be ours if we tell him we want him as one of two and prefer him to ba (or if we are convinced ba is away).....could you see us bidding that much for a back up ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 reading between the lines i'm guessing we've possibly agreed a fee with twente, as have monchengladbach and maybe someone else and it's upto the player. they can offer champs league football and similar to us (big support, seemingly a plan about the direction of the club, a club recently on the rise), the thing not to discount and it's something I don't quite understand, is the esteem in which the premier league is held over the bundesliga. He'd be their #1 centre forward though, which works in their favour. Can't see us spending 10mil on a player for the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 We've all done it. You go to the shop for some milk and end up coming home with a twix, a magazine and a tin of beans. Dekka's gone to the shop for a striker, his mind's wandered and he's ended up buying a defender. Mike will probably shout at him a bit but it'll be ok as long as he's got a twix too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 We've all done it. You go to the shop for some milk and end up coming home with a twix, a magazine and a tin of beans. Dekka's gone to the shop for a striker, his mind's wandered and he's ended up buying a defender. Mike will probably shout at him a bit but it'll be ok as long as he's got a twix too. The difference is that we NEED a central defender, much more than we need a striker to be honest. Douglas and Debuchy would be or main priorities, then if we really want to have a go, a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I really doubt us going after De Jong has any bearing on us wanting a right and centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I really doubt us going after De Jong has any bearing on us wanting a right and centre back. We need a Twix more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 bag of opel fruits would be top! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/9792577.It_s_double_Dutch_for_Newcastle_boss/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Sounds very positive, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yeah, could be a good week for transfer news. If we got De Jong, Douglas and Debuchy it would be unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yeah, could be a good week for transfer news. If we got De Jong, Douglas and Debuchy it would be unbelievable. Would be incredible, add in Anita and its dreamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Hmm, sceptical about any article without quotes. It could all be guesswork IMO. However, IMO the Northern Echo often seem to be ahead of the Journal and Ronny. That's the second article to have mentioned a 5m fee for Douglas too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yeah, could be a good week for transfer news. If we got De Jong, Douglas and Debuchy it would be unbelievable. Also very unrealistic! Debuchy has a elevated his price tag beyond our valuation of him during the Euro's. We are also some way of De Jong's set price and while Monchengladbach is sniffing around I think Twente will stick by their price. Douglas is a possibility although sounds very complicated deal do complete with multiple agents and his passport issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yeah, could be a good week for transfer news. If we got De Jong, Douglas and Debuchy it would be unbelievable. Also very unrealistic! Debuchy has a elevated his price tag beyond our valuation of him during the Euro's. We are also some way of De Jong's set price and while Monchengladbach is sniffing around I think Twente will stick by their price. Douglas is a possibility although sounds very complicated deal do complete with multiple agents and his passport issues. Just have to settle with Curtis Good then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yeah, could be a good week for transfer news. If we got De Jong, Douglas and Debuchy it would be unbelievable. Also very unrealistic! Debuchy has a elevated his price tag beyond our valuation of him during the Euro's. We are also some way of De Jong's set price and while Monchengladbach is sniffing around I think Twente will stick by their price. Douglas is a possibility although sounds very complicated deal do complete with multiple agents and his passport issues. Atleast let us dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Sounds very positive, that. Lee ryder is slightly more pessimistic in the chronicle today which is another positive sign! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yeah, could be a good week for transfer news. If we got De Jong, Douglas and Debuchy it would be unbelievable. Also very unrealistic! Debuchy has a elevated his price tag beyond our valuation of him during the Euro's. We are also some way of De Jong's set price and while Monchengladbach is sniffing around I think Twente will stick by their price. Douglas is a possibility although sounds very complicated deal do complete with multiple agents and his passport issues. I don't think it's "very unrealistic". All three might be a bit much to ask, but it seems we're in advanced negotiations for the first two. We might not manage to conclude the deals, but even being at this stage is a big positive IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yeah, could be a good week for transfer news. If we got De Jong, Douglas and Debuchy it would be unbelievable. Also very unrealistic! Debuchy has a elevated his price tag beyond our valuation of him during the Euro's. We are also some way of De Jong's set price and while Monchengladbach is sniffing around I think Twente will stick by their price. Douglas is a possibility although sounds very complicated deal do complete with multiple agents and his passport issues. I don't think it's "very unrealistic". All three might be a bit much to ask, but it seems we're in advanced negotiations for the first two. We might not manage to conclude the deals, but even being at this stage is a big positive IMO. You are one of those "the glass is half full" people I hope you are right and I'm wrong. On the positive side we have bid high prices for players like Gameiro and Gervinho. So we might go the extra mile for de Jong if the really value him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 NEWCASTLE UNITED are believed to have tabled a "take it, or leave it" offer for Luuk de Jong - according to sources in Holland. And it means that United will reassess other transfer targets this week as Alan Pardew returns to his desk at the club’s Benton base with pre-season training set to start on Thursday. FC Twente president Joop Munsterman has claimed that following further discussions with FC Twente, United upped their initial £8m bid after a fresh round of talks over the weekend. He told the Dutch media: “The offer was not serious. We have a different price in our minds” The offer is not thought to be a package deal including Brazilian defender Douglas as United made a separate upfront cash bid that doesn’t include instalments. A clutch of clubs in Europe have also expressed an interest in de Jong but the deals thought to be under consideration involve staggered payments, a policy Toon chiefs try their best to avoid. But FC Twente have been left to consider an offer – thought to be around £10m – for de Jong. The 21-year-old Swiss-born striker is thought to be keen on a move to Tyneside but until a fee is agreed it is very much out of his hands. De Jong is still on holiday after being part of Holland’s Euro 2012 squad and doesn’t get back for pre-season training until next week. Borussia Monchengladbach are still very much in the hunt for de Jong but getting regular first team opportunities will be on his wish-list if does decide to quit Steve McClaren’s side. United have not thrown the towel in completely on de Jong, however. As reported in Thursday’s Chronicle, the Magpies aren’t afraid to leave the room when selling clubs try to drive valuations up beyond their transfer blueprint. Meanwhile, reports in Turkey claim Newcastle could take on Fenerbahce while there have also been discussions over a possible match with Wisla Krakow – both games to be in Vienna. Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/07/02/newcastle-united-table-take-it-or-leave-it-offer-for-luuk-de-jong-72703-31301659/#ixzz1zSVvHKKs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yep, time to stop the messing about. De Jong can't be the only fish in the sea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 If its 10m in one payment that might swing things our way instead of installments. Good move though, one last offer and move on if they refuse to accept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wilson Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 So do the people who've actually seen him play reckon he's worth 10? I'm very surprised at the noises we're making at the minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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