Mole_Toonfan Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Finding the lack of confidence in Pardew a bit concerning tbh we are only 3 points off Spurs after all it's not like we are struggling at the bottom of the table. Sure the performances has been crap but surely last season brought him more than 11 games of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'm sure the manager of the year will be thrilled by this great insight from a psychological coach wannabee.. Please let's not make that his epithet, man. As bas as referring to Wes Brown as 'the Champions' League winner'. They both have those respective accolades but they don't necessarily represent their ability, nor put them beyond reproach or sensible criticism. Are you seriously suggesting you can't see the difference between a manager of a mid-table team receiving those accolades for managing his team to being in the mix for CL football until the very last weekend of the season and a utility player of a great squad winning a medal in a tournament he barely featured in? No. I'm saying it's a meaningless title in the face of very valid and credible criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Our league position isn't a fair reflection of how we've played this season. Without the good fortune we got against Everton, Reading and West Brom we'd be level on points with Villa. The team isn't functioning and if the moments of individual brilliance dry up so will the points. Right now we have some good players but a poor team. We were a surprise package last season and benefited immensely from a unusually low level of injuries. We also benefited from a goal scoring streak from Cisse he was never going to maintain. This season things are more 'normal' and Pardew is struggling to find answers to the questions being asked. He might rise to the challenge or he might not, last season is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Our league position isn't a fair reflection of how we've played this season. Without the good fortune we got against Everton, Reading and West Brom we'd be level on points with Villa. The team isn't functioning and if the moments of individual brilliance dry up so will the points. Right now we have some good players but a poor team. We were a surprise package last season and benefited immensely from a unusually low level of injuries. We also benefited from a goal scoring streak from Cisse he was never going to maintain. This season things are more 'normal' and Pardew is struggling to find answers to the questions being asked. He might rise to the challenge or he might not, last season is irrelevant. Ahhhhh Malandro, So good to see you bring the best kind of malodorous funk back to the table. Inarguable yet bordering on the suicidal. Awww yeah. good gawd! Hit meh!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Ahead of Saturday's tricky home tie with Swansea, Pardew said: "We are all kind of looking at each other. We want to get firing, we want to score three or four goals and set the stadium alight. "But it's not as simple as that, sometimes you have to graft your way through periods like this. "I will be surprised if we go from West Ham to a real champagne performance. I think it will be something in-between - hopefully." http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8252118 Seriously Pardew has no interest on the offensive part of the game, he prioritize on stopping the opposition and hoping the players to score a couple and hold on. 8 years of stability, come on grow a pair, let the players play ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piggelbet Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-utd/pardew-mulls-over-formation-change-as-newcastle-search-for-fluency-1-5134084 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-utd/pardew-mulls-over-formation-change-as-newcastle-search-for-fluency-1-5134084 “I think the concern that the fans have is the same as what I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-utd/pardew-mulls-over-formation-change-as-newcastle-search-for-fluency-1-5134084 “I think the concern that the fans have is the same as what I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Laughable tbh.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 "The Europa League’s meant we’ve swapped from system to system." Right Alan, so that's not you picking the formation and tactics then, it's the competitions we're playing in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Also the stuff about Cabaye and Tiote coping against midfield 3's is bollocks, it's one of the main things that was said on here last season, we were regularly out played in the middle, every now and then we weren't but it was the exception to the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 "The Europa League’s meant we’ve swapped from system to system." Right Alan, so that's not you picking the formation and tactics then, it's the competitions we're playing in? thats like blaming poor first team displays on the the style played by the reserves a few days earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Also the stuff about Cabaye and Tiote coping against midfield 3's is bollocks, it's one of the main things that was said on here last season, we were regularly out played in the middle, every now and then we weren't but it was the exception to the rule. Aye, and the only reason we coped with two strikers was that the vast majority was spent lumping it up to Best to hold onto, which he was good at but was a style that was never going to get us anywhere near where we want to be. Why are we now asking Cisse to do the job that Leon Best was doing, as if two strikers are completely interchangeable on account of the fact that they're two strikers? Might as well ask Craig Bellamy or Michael Owen to bring balls down with snow on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Give him a chance, he's said that he's recognised the problem, he might come up with an answer. I'm not too bothered about what he says, I'm more interested in his actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Ahead of Saturday's tricky home tie with Swansea, Pardew said: "We are all kind of looking at each other. We want to get firing, we want to score three or four goals and set the stadium alight. "But it's not as simple as that, sometimes you have to graft your way through periods like this. "I will be surprised if we go from West Ham to a real champagne performance. I think it will be something in-between - hopefully." http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8252118 Seriously Pardew has no interest on the offensive part of the game, he prioritize on stopping the opposition and hoping the players to score a couple and hold on. 8 years of stability, come on grow a pair, let the players play ffs. Preparing us for the shambles that is coming? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 On one hand I'm quite sympathetic towards Pardew; with such a limited squad it must be difficult to prepare for two games per week. On the other that's the ticket he chose in coming to work here under such financial prudence, it's up to him to make it work. And we haven't played a Europa League game this week. Over to you Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Wouldn't really say we do have a limited squad, compares very favourably to the majority in the division, in fact I can't really think of any outside the usual 5 that I'd swap with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Give him a chance, he's said that he's recognised the problem, he might come up with an answer. I'm not too bothered about what he says, I'm more interested in his actions. It's a fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Give him a chance, he's said that he's recognised the problem, he might come up with an answer. I'm not too bothered about what he says, I'm more interested in his actions. It's a fair point. You could argue that he already has got his chance. He´s been here 2 years now and for what I can tell his gone backwards the last 6 months. That´s not the sign for me that he will turn anything around no matter the reasons to it. I think there is no coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Give him a chance, he's said that he's recognised the problem, he might come up with an answer. I'm not too bothered about what he says, I'm more interested in his actions. It's a fair point. You could argue that he already has got his chance. He´s been here 2 years now and for what I can tell his gone backwards the last 6 months. That´s not the sign for me that he will turn anything around no matter the reasons to it. I think there is no coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 These discussions are strangely similar to the ones on this forum just before the winning streak and change of system last season. In fact the quotes from Pardew are also strangely familiar. Would be great if the Swansea game can be the Norwich (H) of this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Give him a chance, he's said that he's recognised the problem, he might come up with an answer. I'm not too bothered about what he says, I'm more interested in his actions. It's a fair point. You could argue that he already has got his chance. He´s been here 2 years now and for what I can tell his gone backwards the last 6 months. That´s not the sign for me that he will turn anything around no matter the reasons to it. I think there is no coming back. I think you should give up...just in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 N-O should just ban people with three capital-letter usernames. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Give him a chance, he's said that he's recognised the problem, he might come up with an answer. So what he does isn't important, it's what he's saying. OK. Fair enough. I'm not too bothered about what he says, I'm more interested in his actions. Ah. So it's not what he says. It's what he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 N-O should just ban people with three capital-letter usernames. TBG and OCK are in trouble then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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