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Hughton was sacked for less than this, incredible if the board back him after this run. Next game should seal his fate if I thought the board had any interest in keeping our best players.

 

Only qpr are worse than us right now, and they've made their change and a good one at that. You also know they'll invest heavily in the winter window whereas we will make a lot of noise and then sell someone.

 

Season was over weeks ago, last seasons flukes aren't happening and the true quality of the manager is coming through. There's a good core here, totally wasted by an inept manager and squad not added to sufficiently enough by a board more concerned with profits over performance.

 

Change the manager, don't change him, it'll make very little difference because we won't attract much better unless we take a punt on someone starting their career and basically fluke it, like every Ashley win in life and business.

 

Bang on.

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How bad can our performances get? each one is worse than the last. We have only played 1 of the usual top 4 away from home and yet were already this far deep in the shit. Meaning even if we pick up some decent form later in the season points are going to be far more difficult to achieve.

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Anita having the best game of his time here, looking threatening and he takes him off. Clueless.

 

I was utterly baffled. He looked like he was trying to make something happen and was having reasonable success.

 

 

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Beren was one of a number of posters who questioned Pardew's football ethos, even when things were going well.

 

So was I but the retort was "blame pards", people couldn't see past results.

 

Yep. HTT too, and he got some stick for it but was right all along.

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Fully expecting a condescending statement from the club soon that he's got the full backing and mentioning Arsenal/Everton/Man U saying that they haven't sacked their manager after a bad run.

 

At no stage were playing like us. They can shove that statement up Pardew's arse (if it comes like) :lol:

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Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? :lol: The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs.

 

I'm not sure anybody has claimed to know how badly things would go this season.

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Beren was one of a number of posters who questioned Pardew's football ethos, even when things were going well.

 

So was I but the retort was "blame pards", people couldn't see past results.

 

He has clear strengths as a defensive coach, you cant ignore us breaking records last season with the standard of players he was using. Thats not coincidence. His ability as an attacking coach has been in doubt though yeah & that now looks a proven issue especially if individual players get injured or lose the form to cover that up. The lack of group cohesion then stands out massively ofc.

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Yep. HTT too, and he got some stick for it but was right all along.

 

To be fair, the results were good and so were the performances at times.

 

So why were there so many doubters about his style of football?

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Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? :lol: The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs.

 

I'm not sure anybody has claimed to know how badly things would go this season.

 

There's a hint of "I knew he was terrible! I told you, but did you listen?! NOOO!". It's all screams arrogance.

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Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? :lol: The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs.

 

I'm not sure anybody has claimed to know how badly things would go this season.

 

There's a hint of "I knew he was terrible! I told you, but did you listen?! NOOO!". It's all screams arrogance.

 

Absolutely. Fucking tedious to read.

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