David28 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The reliev after the final whistle for him was huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I actually think he should be credited for the subs. All 3 subs are correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 My opinion of him being a bit mental is ringing true....what a cuntflap of a manager he is proving to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The subs changed the game today, but i'm reluctant to dish out any great credit. Lucky the opposition were so horrendously shit that we actually managed to nick a goal eventually. Bet he's rather relieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 But he got the tactics and selection awfully wrong from the start. Made the same mistake for the 50th time by playing Cissé on the wing. It's not worthy. Reverted back to seeking out Shola. Marveaux opened them up for us. Should have started, no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Tbf the 3 subs he made all played well when they came on, we actually looked like scoring and were much more creative... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I actually think he should be credited for the subs. All 3 subs are correct. Well then he needs to take stick for the fucking starting line up that had no creativity in it, fine when you want to stop Man City playing but not against a shower of shit like Q.P.R. Bloke's a shithouse cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Today revealed newer depths of how diabolical a manager he is, tbh. It's like a game of elimination, he was given 14 picks, and only on the last pick did he pick the door-opener that is Marveaux. And that pick may not even have made the selection of 14 if not for injuries. I agree with some of that. But he should be credited at least for making the changes when he realized the side he put out in the first place was not playing good enough. He still continues to smash both Ba and Cisse in the line-up, thus forcing Cisse out wide. Things like that should not continue when he has tried the same thing over and over and failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Amazing that we can start a game with no creativity with Marv and even Obertan on the bench. That's what his backups are for, and yet he leaves them on the bench when it's their shot to make something happen. Fortunately they came on and changed things. I don't mind Shola starting from here, even though I'd rather it be Cisse, but at the very least Marveaux has to be starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 He's rubbish. Can see why he wanted Carroll back so badly, the only way we seem capable of mustering any offensive threat is when we have a big lump of a striker up top to win long balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I honestly think rushing Obertan straight back from injury isn't a good idea. Marveaux is definitely his fault, although I did suspect it may be related to his injury records. Anyway we have to risk them today because we fucking need the 3 pts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Can't believe we're 5 points from 8th given the way we've been playing. If this moron grows a fucking pair we might yet salvage something from this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Taking far too long to learn from his mistakes. If he persists with Jonas into the new year that'll be it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Amazing that we can start a game with no creativity with Marv and even Obertan on the bench. That's what his backups are for, and yet he leaves them on the bench when it's their shot to make something happen. Fortunately they came on and changed things. I don't mind Shola starting from here, even though I'd rather it be Cisse, but at the very least Marveaux has to be starting. Nah ive always said it with the limited options we've got, if Pardew has to play two men up front and go long like he loves to, it should always be Ba with Shola, or Cisse with Shola, because then you got two different types of forwards that offer the opposition's defense different things to defend against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Lost the plot, won't be retrieving it. Just a case of crossing our fingers now and hoping our gifted players here and there can muster enough points against the shite of the division. My gut instinct is that we'll huff and puff our way to survival. There'll be a nervous laugh or two in May when we finish 6 or 7 points above 18th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Amazing that we can start a game with no creativity with Marv and even Obertan on the bench. That's what his backups are for, and yet he leaves them on the bench when it's their shot to make something happen. Fortunately they came on and changed things. I don't mind Shola starting from here, even though I'd rather it be Cisse, but at the very least Marveaux has to be starting. Nah ive always said it with the limited options we've got, if Pardew has to play two men up front and go long like he loves to, it should always be Ba with Shola, or Cisse with Shola, because then you got two different types of forwards that offer the opposition's defense different things to defend against. Shola is incapable of starting football matches, it's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Amazing that we can start a game with no creativity with Marv and even Obertan on the bench. That's what his backups are for, and yet he leaves them on the bench when it's their shot to make something happen. Fortunately they came on and changed things. I don't mind Shola starting from here, even though I'd rather it be Cisse, but at the very least Marveaux has to be starting. Nah ive always said it with the limited options we've got, if Pardew has to play two men up front and go long like he loves to, it should always be Ba with Shola, or Cisse with Shola, because then you got two different types of forwards that offer the opposition's defense different things to defend against. Shola is incapable of starting football matches, it's as simple as that. Nonsense, he's a better options than the mediocre partnership of Ba and Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 For 30 minutes at most, perhaps. Then what do you do, take him off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 he'll last more than 30 mins. But im stating if we have to play 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 When did that happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Giving Pardew credit for the subs today is like giving McClaren credit for bringing on strikers when he was a couple of goals down in the Europa with Boro (against Basel/Bucharest?). It's not tactical nous, it's fucking desperation. It's exhausting all other alternatives. It's Obertan getting injured last season which allowed HBA to finally start some fucking games. He's as much of a tactical moron as he ever has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 did i watch the wrong game today or something, all 3 subs made an impact. Yes i wanted marveaux on earlier, but obertan was the right choice in the end his pace saved us on one occasion and he looked decent, ameobi got the goal and looked a handful and then marveaux came on and looked good as well. Not that happy with the starting eleven, but we have a small squad with injuries and he is trying to get some of last season familiarity back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Have to say some people on here seem to have developed a pathological hatred of Pardew. The 3 subs he made today swung the game in our favour so I'm stunned to come on here and see some people rubbishing him as a manager. After the first subs on 60 mins there was only one team that was going to win the game. Considering we've not actually won a game against a team playing with 11 men for almost 2 months we did exactly what we needed to do today. Never looked like conceeding and then went for them in the last 30 minutes. Not brilliant stuff but efficient and effective. Would I like us to have been sharper in the first hour? Yes. But considering the low base we're coming from today was a step forward and Pardew does deserve some credit for that (in the same way he deserves some criticism for where we are in the league). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Have to say some people on here seem to have developed a pathological hatred of Pardew. The 3 subs he made today swung the game in our favour so I'm stunned to come on here and see some people rubbishing him as a manager. After the first subs on 60 mins there was only one team that was going to win the game. Considering we've not actually won a game against a team playing with 11 men for almost 2 months we did exactly what we needed to do today. Never looked like conceeding and then went for them in the last 30 minutes. Not brilliant stuff but efficient and effective. Would I like us to have been sharper in the first hour? Yes. But considering the low base we're coming from today was a step forward and Pardew does deserve some credit for that (in the same way he deserves some criticism for where we are in the league). Wrong starting line up though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Giving Pardew credit for the subs today is like giving McClaren credit for bringing on strikers when he was a couple of goals down in the Europa with Boro (against Basel/Bucharest?). It's not tactical nous, it's f***ing desperation. It's exhausting all other alternatives. It's Obertan getting injured last season which allowed HBA to finally start some f***ing games. He's as much of a tactical moron as he ever has been. Fair enough, Pardew's starting line-up was a mistake today, just like almost every game he set's out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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