Spudil Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now If he'd made a change before the winning Swansea goal I have absolutely no doubt he'd have been slagged for changing what was working. Well I can't account for everyone else but I can guarantee you that I wouldn't have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 That sums it up really well. At 0-0 he wasn't desperate to get a goal and that is totally unacceptable given the circumstances. Especially when we were dominating the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now Jesus wept, man Eh? did you say something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I'll slate Pardew when he's bad like, this is just fucking nit picking though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now Jesus wept, man Eh? did you say something? He said "Jesus wept, man" and then chuckled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now That sums it up really well. At 0-0 he wasn't desperate to get a goal and that is totally unacceptable given the circumstances. The only change he could've realistically made would've been Marveaux/Obertan for Jonas and even that would've been churlish considering how well Jonas and Debuchy linked up in the second half. We had no other game changers on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now Jesus wept, man Eh? did you say something? He said "Jesus wept, man" and then chuckled. Correct. Spudil, you're chatting shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now That sums it up really well. At 0-0 he wasn't desperate to get a goal and that is totally unacceptable given the circumstances. The only change he could've realistically made would've been Marveaux/Obertan for Jonas and even that would've been churlish considering how well Jonas and Debuchy linked up in the second half. We had no other game changers on the bench. Yet Luke Moore has changed the game for them by shuffling the pack and sending Michu back to run midfield. Last season against Man City, Mancini took a striker off for De Jong to release Toure, who scored within five minutes. You don't always need a "game-changer" if you think about it enough. Pardew is embarrassingly poor at doing this because he's a tactical dud. Sometimes as a manager you have to do stuff to change the game that goes beyond hoying Shola on. That is all he knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Such nonsense It is a fact that to be successful you must always be on the front foot willing to take action and risks and not rest on your laurels. Reactionary people will always be less successful and so too will reactionary managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Some really strange posts in here today In what way? Just out of curiosity. Well just the Routledge stuff really, seems a really strange and needless dig to have given the majority thought exactly the same. He never looked like the player he is now with us or Villa or Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Rather than making things happen , Pardew lets things happen first before doing something...rather akin to a cricket captain moving a fieldsman to an area where he would've caught someone out the ball previous. Today, he should've pushed on and made an attacking sub in the second half, whilst we were dominating. Maybe Marveaux for Jonas or even Tiote would've made us more potent offensively and may have even won us the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Some really strange posts in here today In what way? Just out of curiosity. Well just the Routledge stuff really, seems a really strange and needless dig to have given the majority thought exactly the same. He never looked like the player he is now with us or Villa or Spurs. Ah aye, I thought I was in the matchj thread for some reason Thought I'd missed something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 We were dominating the game. Changes weren't needed. This loss is not on him. Give it a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 The loss isn't on Pardew at all. I have no problem with him today. Personally I'd brought on Marveaux on to mix things up, nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Didn't see too much of the 1st half, was it another poor start for us today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Didn't see too much of the 1st half, but was it another poor start for us today? Opposite we dominated the 1st 5 mins. Then they dominated the next 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I don't understand the negativity in this thread at all. We out-passed and out-thought a good Swansea side, who are on a high, in their own back yard. Barring the comical error in our defense today, i think nigh on evrryone would have taken a draw before the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now That sums it up really well. At 0-0 he wasn't desperate to get a goal and that is totally unacceptable given the circumstances. The only change he could've realistically made would've been Marveaux/Obertan for Jonas and even that would've been churlish considering how well Jonas and Debuchy linked up in the second half. We had no other game changers on the bench. Yet Luke Moore has changed the game for them by shuffling the pack and sending Michu back to run midfield. Last season against Man City, Mancini took a striker off for De Jong to release Toure, who scored within five minutes. You don't always need a "game-changer" if you think about it enough. Pardew is embarrassingly poor at doing this because he's a tactical dud. Sometimes as a manager you have to do stuff to change the game that goes beyond hoying Shola on. That is all he knows. You talk an obscene amount of shite Wullie Luke Moore did absolutely nothing when he came on other than stand prone and swing a leg at the ball while our defense disintegrated around him. I like Laudrup, but it was not a tactical masterstroke by any stretch of the imagination. Michu did little when either up front or in midfield today. It's pretty clear there are a small number of people on here that will not accept that we can get dealt a bad hand and Pardew can't be held accountable for it. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now That sums it up really well. At 0-0 he wasn't desperate to get a goal and that is totally unacceptable given the circumstances. The only change he could've realistically made would've been Marveaux/Obertan for Jonas and even that would've been churlish considering how well Jonas and Debuchy linked up in the second half. We had no other game changers on the bench. Yet Luke Moore has changed the game for them by shuffling the pack and sending Michu back to run midfield. Last season against Man City, Mancini took a striker off for De Jong to release Toure, who scored within five minutes. You don't always need a "game-changer" if you think about it enough. Pardew is embarrassingly poor at doing this because he's a tactical dud. Sometimes as a manager you have to do stuff to change the game that goes beyond hoying Shola on. That is all he knows. You talk an obscene amount of shite Wullie Luke Moore did absolutely nothing when he came on other than stand prone and swing a leg at the ball while our defense disintegrated around him. I like Laudrup, but it was not a tactical masterstroke by any stretch of the imagination. Michu did little when either up front or in midfield today. It's pretty clear there are a small number of people on here that will not accept that we can get dealt a bad hand and Pardew can't be held accountable for it. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. I never said Luke Moore did anything (other than score the winning goal), I said Laudrup shuffled the pack by bringing him on. You obviously think a manager can only change the game by bringing on some sort of super-sub. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. We're 15th ffs. Most teams in the league would have beaten Swansea today, they were appalling, very much "after the Lord Mayor's show" and yet they still won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 While i understand the want for change while your on top.... i.e. fresh legs etc etc as rightly pointed out the defeat is not on him. Could have easily gone the other way and if he did would he be getting as much praise as there is negativity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 While i understand the want for change while your on top.... i.e. fresh legs etc etc as rightly pointed out the defeat is not on him. Could have easily gone the other way and if he did would he be getting as much praise as there is negativity? It didn't though and hasn't all season. We've won less away games than QPR and yet some people will still swear blind that he's doing a grand old job. All this "he did nothing wrong today" completely ignores that he coaches the defence, coaches the set pieces and is nowhere near good enough to manage this set of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now That sums it up really well. At 0-0 he wasn't desperate to get a goal and that is totally unacceptable given the circumstances. The only change he could've realistically made would've been Marveaux/Obertan for Jonas and even that would've been churlish considering how well Jonas and Debuchy linked up in the second half. We had no other game changers on the bench. Yet Luke Moore has changed the game for them by shuffling the pack and sending Michu back to run midfield. Last season against Man City, Mancini took a striker off for De Jong to release Toure, who scored within five minutes. You don't always need a "game-changer" if you think about it enough. Pardew is embarrassingly poor at doing this because he's a tactical dud. Sometimes as a manager you have to do stuff to change the game that goes beyond hoying Shola on. That is all he knows. You talk an obscene amount of shite Wullie Luke Moore did absolutely nothing when he came on other than stand prone and swing a leg at the ball while our defense disintegrated around him. I like Laudrup, but it was not a tactical masterstroke by any stretch of the imagination. Michu did little when either up front or in midfield today. It's pretty clear there are a small number of people on here that will not accept that we can get dealt a bad hand and Pardew can't be held accountable for it. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. I never said Luke Moore did anything (other than score the winning goal), I said Laudrup shuffled the pack by bringing him on. You obviously think a manager can only change the game by bringing on some sort of super-sub. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. We're 15th ffs. Most teams in the league would have beaten Swansea today, they were appalling, very much "after the Lord Mayor's show" and yet they still won. We didn't need to change the game though, they did. We were creating chances and were pretty unlucky not to be ahead, what could he have done to change things? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Well,you know,not everyone judge him by match-to-match performance. I stand firmly by my statements that he should be sacked. Blaming injuries,hard/difficult fixtures or whatever just ain't an excuse that should be accepted. These things can happen any manager. What makes a difference is how you manage with what you got. And he really should not be flirting with the drop zone with the squad he's got. Giving this man an 8-year contract is a sign of stupid gambling, not a sign of 'trying' to be consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Like in any walk of life a real man takes action when the situation requires and the same applies in football management. Changes had to be made to capitalize on our relative dominance and add that little spark that we needed. Oh we're a goal down and now you make the changes? You must want to score a goal now That sums it up really well. At 0-0 he wasn't desperate to get a goal and that is totally unacceptable given the circumstances. The only change he could've realistically made would've been Marveaux/Obertan for Jonas and even that would've been churlish considering how well Jonas and Debuchy linked up in the second half. We had no other game changers on the bench. Yet Luke Moore has changed the game for them by shuffling the pack and sending Michu back to run midfield. Last season against Man City, Mancini took a striker off for De Jong to release Toure, who scored within five minutes. You don't always need a "game-changer" if you think about it enough. Pardew is embarrassingly poor at doing this because he's a tactical dud. Sometimes as a manager you have to do stuff to change the game that goes beyond hoying Shola on. That is all he knows. You talk an obscene amount of shite Wullie Luke Moore did absolutely nothing when he came on other than stand prone and swing a leg at the ball while our defense disintegrated around him. I like Laudrup, but it was not a tactical masterstroke by any stretch of the imagination. Michu did little when either up front or in midfield today. It's pretty clear there are a small number of people on here that will not accept that we can get dealt a bad hand and Pardew can't be held accountable for it. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. I never said Luke Moore did anything (other than score the winning goal), I said Laudrup shuffled the pack by bringing him on. You obviously think a manager can only change the game by bringing on some sort of super-sub. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. We're 15th ffs. Most teams in the league would have beaten Swansea today, they were appalling, very much "after the Lord Mayor's show" and yet they still won. We didn't need to change the game though, they did. We were creating chances and were pretty unlucky not to be ahead, what could he have done to change things? Well he plays one of his forward players purely for his defending, maybe he should have taken him off for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Laudrup looks a far better manager than Pardew like, I fully agree with that, but SUPER MASTERMIND MICHAEL needed a last grasp flukey winner at home to take 3 points, up until that his side were 2nd best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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