Alan Pardew

[Dave]

 

Parody.

[stozo]

He's still getting a lot of stick based on earlier in the season in my view. Since the Norwich game (when he got his first new recruit) we've got 16 points from 11 games. If you applied that kind of form to the rest of the season we'd be at least 8th in the league.

 

We'll see how the rest of the season goes but certainly think there's been an improvement in the last few months.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He's still getting a lot of stick based on earlier in the season in my view. Since the Norwich game (when he got his first new recruit) we've got 16 points from 11 games. If you applied that kind of form to the rest of the season we'd be at least 8th in the league.

 

We'll see how the rest of the season goes but certainly think there's been an improvement in the last few months.

 

This is my feeling too, always has been.

 

I'm not saying we've transformed and been brilliant, but we have definitely improved and haven't been anywhere near as bad as we were. The Man City game was unfortunate but we were always liable to get pasted in that.

[Tooj]

He's still getting a lot of stick based on earlier in the season in my view. Since the Norwich game (when he got his first new recruit) we've got 16 points from 11 games. If you applied that kind of form to the rest of the season we'd be at least 8th in the league.

 

We'll see how the rest of the season goes but certainly think there's been an improvement in the last few months.

 

This is my feeling too, always has been.

 

I'm not saying we've transformed and been brilliant, but we have definitely improved and haven't been anywhere near as bad as we were. The Man City game was unfortunate but we were always liable to get pasted in that.

 

The Man City game was far worse than unfortunate. It was as spineless as performances get.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He's still getting a lot of stick based on earlier in the season in my view. Since the Norwich game (when he got his first new recruit) we've got 16 points from 11 games. If you applied that kind of form to the rest of the season we'd be at least 8th in the league.

 

We'll see how the rest of the season goes but certainly think there's been an improvement in the last few months.

 

This is my feeling too, always has been.

 

I'm not saying we've transformed and been brilliant, but we have definitely improved and haven't been anywhere near as bad as we were. The Man City game was unfortunate but we were always liable to get pasted in that.

 

The Man City game was far worse than unfortunate. It was as spineless as performances get.

 

Fair enough, I didn't mean in the sense of unlucky, I meant it wasn't good for the fans' view of Pardew in the short term.

[Smal]

I really like Martin Jol, I think he would love to manage us as well.

 

Did you watch the game? Fulham are shite and rely on Berbatov or Ruiz to pull something out of their arse.

[mrmojorisin75]

I really like Martin Jol, I think he would love to manage us as well.

 

Did you watch the game? Fulham are shite and rely on Berbatov or Ruiz to pull something out of their arse.

 

[Stifler]

He's just so defensive and route one for me. Look at last year when he set us out to attack, we were unstoppable, against Benfica when we were attacking we were the better. He never seems to have a plan b, in all honesty I think scoring a winner in the last minute suits him because after we score he just sets us out to sit back. His substations usually don't come on until the 80th minute or later when the game is already lost.

[aussiemag]

I really like Martin Jol, I think he would love to manage us as well.

 

Did you watch the game? Fulham are s**** and rely on Berbatov or Ruiz to pull something out of their arse.

 

 

Fulham are a solid side, there squad has no where near the talent that ours does. Only Berbatov would make our starting 11. They play good football and Jol has them playing a compact counter attacking style.

[mrmojorisin75]

I really like Martin Jol, I think he would love to manage us as well.

 

Did you watch the game? Fulham are s**** and rely on Berbatov or Ruiz to pull something out of their arse.

 

 

Fulham are a solid side, there squad has no where near the talent that ours does. Only Berbatov would make our starting 11. They play good football and Jol has them playing a compact counter attacking style.

 

i was laughing because that's a condensed version of the alan pardew tactics masterplan just with different players

[Dave]

Been thinking about yesterday's game again and although it was do or die at the end and could have resulted in nothing, that kind of thing is what gives me hope about Pardew. Not just the way the players gave their all until the last, but the whole move leading to the goal. It was a period of massive pressure and good football. We didn't scrape in a goalmouth scramble, it was the last in a number of well worked chances and a very good goal that exploited their retreating defence (including Berbatov ).

 

I just want him to grasp that we have some very good players here who can legitimately outplay other teams if that is the focus. We don't do it enough.

[Benwell Lad]

Been thinking about yesterday's game again and although it was do or die at the end and could have resulted in nothing, that kind of thing is what gives me hope about Pardew. Not just the way the players gave their all until the last, but the whole move leading to the goal. It was a period of massive pressure and good football. We didn't scrape in a goalmouth scramble, it was the last in a number of well worked chances and a very good goal that exploited their retreating defence (including Berbatov ).

 

I just want him to grasp that we have some very good players here who can legitimately outplay other teams if that is the focus. We don't do it enough.

 

I hope we go for the jugular right from the off next Sunday.

[Lotus]

Been thinking about yesterday's game again and although it was do or die at the end and could have resulted in nothing, that kind of thing is what gives me hope about Pardew. Not just the way the players gave their all until the last, but the whole move leading to the goal. It was a period of massive pressure and good football. We didn't scrape in a goalmouth scramble, it was the last in a number of well worked chances and a very good goal that exploited their retreating defence (including Berbatov ).

 

I just want him to grasp that we have some very good players here who can legitimately outplay other teams if that is the focus. We don't do it enough.

 

I hope we go for the jugular right from the off next Sunday.

 

Will be a packed and busy midfield next Sunday imo. Would think quick balls down the line like we did against Soton would work well. Pace of Gouf on one side and maybe Sissoko getting on the end of those would be very useful. Would start to force them to sit back a bit, give players like Marveaux and Cabs more time to pick a pass.

[merlin]

Been thinking about yesterday's game again and although it was do or die at the end and could have resulted in nothing, that kind of thing is what gives me hope about Pardew. Not just the way the players gave their all until the last, but the whole move leading to the goal. It was a period of massive pressure and good football. We didn't scrape in a goalmouth scramble, it was the last in a number of well worked chances and a very good goal that exploited their retreating defence (including Berbatov ).

 

I just want him to grasp that we have some very good players here who can legitimately outplay other teams if that is the focus. We don't do it enough.

 

I don't know how you can claim the goal was not the result of a scramble - Cabaye's shot deflected off a defender(it was never going to trouble Schwartzer) and luckily, fell to Cisse who did what he is best at in the penalty area - controlled it brilliantly and scored.

No way was it like some of the goals Marveaux has conjured up through brilliant passing, we were fortunate although the players earned it by their efforts right into added time.

 

None of this makes me feel any differently about Pardew - we play percentage football when we have players capable of much more and our results over the season reflect our play.

 

Everyone has their view about managers - it just so happens that the likes of Mick, HTT and I differ from yours and some others...that's football.

[Dr Venkman]

Been thinking about yesterday's game again and although it was do or die at the end and could have resulted in nothing, that kind of thing is what gives me hope about Pardew. Not just the way the players gave their all until the last, but the whole move leading to the goal. It was a period of massive pressure and good football. We didn't scrape in a goalmouth scramble, it was the last in a number of well worked chances and a very good goal that exploited their retreating defence (including Berbatov ).

 

I just want him to grasp that we have some very good players here who can legitimately outplay other teams if that is the focus. We don't do it enough.

 

I hope he does this too. I just don't find it likely that he'll change his view on how the game should be played to give you the best chance of results with the players we've got.

 

Hopefully the 8 year deal will make him feel more secure, a fit and capable defence on the pitch and he'll feel more able to make possession, movement and creating chances our thing. I'd be delighted if we brought in an offensive coach in the summer. When I watch us I'm almost always thinking of his 'when he's got the ball, that's his world' comments about HBA. Although its fair to say HBA is a one off it looks to me like he has that attitude with the rest of the team as well, we're so static when in possession.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I would make Ginola his number two, could be perfect!

[Skeletor]

Ironically we have won as many games at home as the teams challenging for the Champions League spots have. Our away record however

[LFEE]

I keep reading this "we have players capable of much more"... With regards to our team... Makes me think of the national media talking about the England team... Yet after several top managers we ain't any better and we all know its because our players are hyped... Not sure we would be if we changed manager... Will that magically give our players greater pace and passing ability and aerial strength and suffer from less injuries... Give him all of next season IMO... We've still to see HBA alongside our January recruits...

[Dr Venkman]

I keep reading this "we have players capable of much more"... With regards to our team... Makes me think of the national media talking about the England team... Yet after several top managers we ain't any better and we all know its because our players are hyped... Not sure we would be if we changed manager... Will that magically give our players greater pace and passing ability and aerial strength and suffer from less injuries... Give him all of next season IMO... We've still to see HBA alongside our January recruits...

 

How about simply 'we've got the type of players to play a passing/moving game and we don't do it'. Is that fair?

[S.S.R.]

We've got plenty of door-openers and not enough door-closers in midfield.

[Benwell Lad]

I would make Ginola his number two, could be perfect!

 

Pards, Ginola and Cabaye. We'd need to replace the family sections with female sections.

[Kanj]

Ironically we have won as many games at home as the teams challenging for the Champions League spots have. Our away record however

 

Yeah man. Obv easy to look back and bemoan but Count Sunderland away, Liverpool away, Man Utd away, Reading home and Wigan away and we're right around Liverpool too.

 

Our inability to get a tie out of losses at times killed us.

[The College Dropout]

Not really.

 

It's our away form pure and simple.

 

 

8 points away. EIGHT! real Fulham stuff. This time last year we had 24. If we managed just half of last seasons haul, it would have been a decent season.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

He has been here over 2 years now and we still have no identity or real game plan. We are not an attacking side. We are not a counter attacking side. We are not a defensive side or even a direct side. We are a nothing side that wins games by very fine margins such as a wonder goal, a last minute winner, the individual brilliance of a player etc. etc. We do not beat sides by imposing ourselves onto the game and opposition. And that's because we have no real style of play.

 

We are one of the most lackadaisical side's I've ever seen. We clearly have good players but most of the time it is as if they are complete strangers to one another. There is no rhythm to our play, no real partnerships or link up play and the movement is very poor too. It is easy to see why we have struggled all season to beat teams, especially away from home.

 

Then you have the manager's ridiculous approach to games which are almost always counter productive and not in line with the quality of players we have in the side nor the expectations and aspirations of the fans. Throw in the excuses, the weird team selections and the baffling substitutions and you have the perfect recipe for a well, s*** manager. And that's what he is, a s*** manager who has overseen a disasterous season not only points wise but performance wise too. Together, a lethal combination that will send a side down. We can be thankful there are even worse sides than us in the division.

 

He has constantly failed to get the best out of this side in terms of putting in a performance, even last season where the results were very good, we were putting in abject performances. Our wins were often the result of very fine margins.

 

In over 2 years, there is no style whatsoever. No substance. No real game plan. Our set-play is absolutely atrocious too.

 

Pardew is a man manager, a motivator, a leader and a charmer. He's also a chancer. He is no coach though, no philosopher and no tactician. These players need coaching, they need a football philosophy and they need a tactician. They need someone who knows how to set a side up to attack the opposition, to retain possession, to beat sides, to get the best out of their abilities individually and collective.

 

I ask you this - are we really as bad as Villa, Reading, the mackems? Are we that bad? Because that's where we are at under Pardew, at their level.

 

He doesn't deserve another 10 games or another season or whatever because he hasn't shown in the 2 plus years he has been in charge any idea how to create a football identity that suits our players whatsoever.

 

We will survive, by fine margins. In the immortal words of Crumpy, however, is that acceptable?

 

For me we should be challenging for a top 6 position at least.

 

That's somewhat a bit short of Pardew's own 4th position aim, but one needs to be a bit realistic...

 

Get rid once this awful season ends.

[NoU]

I find it quite amazing that only 29% ('yes' and 'never lost any') have faith in Pardew, despite him leading us to our highest league position in 8 years and the quarter finals of the uefa cup.