Pilko Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 For me it's nailed on that he's got to go. For me, it's nailed on that you're an absolute cretin for thinking that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Pardew's said that he brought Shola on as Cisse had a back problem. Who else was the option? It's not entirely Pardews fault that we've got three senior strikers, one of which has never consistently scored goals. People say we have a great squad, we don't. We have a handful of very good players and a lot of average- good ones and a sprinkling of dross. The likes of Shola and Williamson are barely PL standard yet week after week we have to rely on them due to the limitations of the squad and persistent penny pinching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 For me it's nailed on that he's got to go. For me, it's nailed on that you're an absolute cretin for thinking that. Glad you think that I cant see what benefit you see in him staying (beyond this season) is tbh. Do you watch our games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 11 matches in. It's perfectly normal to be unhappy at how we've played and I'm concerned myself, but fuck me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Pardew's said that he brought Shola on as Cisse had a back problem. Who else was the option? It's not entirely Pardews fault that we've got three senior strikers, one of which has never consistently scored goals. People say we have a great squad, we don't. We have a handful of very good players and a lot of average- good ones and a sprinkling of dross. The likes of Shola and Williamson are barely PL standard yet week after week we have to rely on them due to the limitations of the squad and persistent penny pinching. Very true, I appreciate that. But it doesn't excuse the way we continued to launch it. Never been a big believe in the 'Hoof it to the big lad up top' myself, but obviously it gets you places! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Cool, everyone has different opinions. I for one don't fancy him seeing out that 8 year deal of his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 When you have Shola on, the tactic is always going to be direct. He's simply not mobile enough to create space for himself and he's got sod all pace so giving him through balls is a non starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 There is no way he will see out 8 years. I don't even think that's a discussion, it was more a statement than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The eight years thing is meaningless, it'll be so riddled with clauses that favour the club that I consider it effectively an annual rolling contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm not an Ashley sympathiser but I remember someone posted all the potential legalities/costs of Ashley getting topped a while ago and it meant we could well be f***ed. I've never heard or seen this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The option to be direct is there when you have him on, yeah. Perhaps getting on the end of crosses in the box, getting on the end of well drilled set pieces, being constructive in that sense. Not have the ball bludgeoned up to him or hoofed over the top for him to chase- which we were doing. Use him to your advantage and I don't mind, but our 'gameplan' was/is just embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 There is no way he will see out 8 years. I don't even think that's a discussion, it was more a statement than anything. Aye, its obvious that he has clauses i.e finishing in a certain position, financial targets even. But I just cant see us making any progression as a club with him here beyond this season. He's out of his depth it's blatantly obvious. I think we should stick with him until the end of the season because mid-season sackings are ridiculous. But, the one thing I shall stick up for him in is that as long as Ashley's here no manager will have a proper, strong squad to compete with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 This thread. Yup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 What an absolute bunch of fucking idiots in this thread, we finished 5th last season for fucks sake, we played badly but were missing tiote and collocini the spine of the team. Reminds me of a Rtg type Thread, thick fucking brain dead twats hiding behind a keyboard! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 What an absolute bunch of f***ing idiots in this thread, we finished 5th last season for f***s sake, we played badly but were missing tiote and collocini the spine of the team. Reminds me of a Rtg type Thread, thick f***ing brain dead twats hiding behind a keyboard! Is that some kind of admission? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Thread, thick f***ing brain dead twats hiding behind a keyboard! Is it possible to not 'hide behind a keyboard' on the internet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 In our first season back in the PL we had 17 points from eleven games under Chris Hughton, who got sacked a few games later. Two years on we have a better squad of players but have been fortunate to get 14 points from eleven games under Pardew. Comparisons don't always stand up but it's debatable whether appointing Pardew has been a step forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 In our first season back in the PL we had 17 points from eleven games under Chris Hughton, who got sacked a few games later. Two years on we have a better squad of players but have been fortunate to get 14 points from eleven games under Pardew. Comparisons don't always stand up but it's debatable whether appointing Pardew has been a step forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I don't want him sacked but I d want him to be pro-active and do something to solve the problems we've clearly got atm. The team is not functioning and that's his responsibility. Manage the players at his disposal and if that means dropping under-performing players then do it. If that means changing formation then do it. If that means upsetting Ba and/or Cisse then do it. The team comes first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I can feel we are heading to relegation if we sack Pardew now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 If you think about it, calm down and think rationally, imagine it was another club - would you not think it was ridiculous to want a manager out who got a team like us to 5th, by november the following season when 11th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Wish everyone would remember Arsenal & Wenger. How many bad spells have they had over the years.. And how many good ones.. Are you comparing Pardew with Wenger...!!!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ah, talk of sacking him ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I would kick him out right the way if I got the chance. Sadly, as been said, that wouldn´t matter because we would only get some shit in anyway. So I would keep him the rest of the season, then sack him (but that won´t matter either because Ashley doesn´t care about us and won´t get the right man in). The facts are clear though. Pardew will only take us backwards. I have compared him with Roeder and I have no reason to chance that. I got laughed off last time but didn´t care, so why would I do that now? If we want to compete again Pardew has to go, but the same goes for Ashley. The future is not looking that bright after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Aye, it's been way too long since we've had a "sack the board" discussion. Good to be back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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