Dave Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or has completely lost the dressing room or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. Cannot argue with that at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or has completely lost the dressing room or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. its all moot anyway because unless something ridiculous happens he isn't going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Think the beginning of the season will shape my views on the current regime including the board, if they are not as progressive in footballing terms as in buying players with the managers. its evident we would be stuck under performing for years to comes with players coming and going. The hope is for them to make the right choices and get the right people in the team and get performances and great results. The Bottom line is clear even if Pardew was sacked and replace by another manager at the end of the season , i would doubt there would be many Moaners here. I see support for him but not complete support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. Have you ever wanted a manager binned mid season? Honest question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. Have you ever wanted a manager binned mid season? Honest question. Until recently I still had the edition of The Chronicle that announced Souness being sacked. That's how happy I was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. Have you ever wanted a manager binned mid season? Honest question. Until recently I still had the edition of The Chronicle that announced Souness being sacked. That's how happy I was. I was soo happy when that happened as well. Bit embarrassing now but tbf it did lead to the honeymoon period under Roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. Have you ever wanted a manager binned mid season? Honest question. Of course, because those circumstances have occurred. Apart from the amazing replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Fat Sam, hated everything about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. I tend to agree and would stick with him until the season ends but if we lose against the mackems... Plus we are still deep in it anyway as things stand right now. Pardew has had a very good ride this year because if his surname was Souness or Allardyce or Roeder there would have been hell on for the shit we've served up and where we lie in the table. I think Ashley has done such a great job over the years of demolishing fans' aspirations and ambitions for the club to the point where just staying up is something to be thankful for and there is also this mentality of we have to keep someone like Pardew because no-one else will want the job or we will not get anyone better in. Just look at the gushing over making 1m + profit. Who cares, especially when we lie a few points off relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. Accurate and so so depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. I tend to agree and would stick with him until the season ends but if we lose against the mackems... Plus we are still deep in it anyway as things stand right now. Pardew has had a very good ride this year because if his surname was Souness or Allardyce or Roeder there would have been hell on for the s*** we've served up and where we lie in the table. I think Ashley has done such a great job over the years of demolishing fans' aspirations and ambitions for the club to the point where just staying up is something to be thankful for and there is also this mentality of we have to keep someone like Pardew because no-one else will want the job or we will not get anyone better in. Just look at the gushing over making 1m + profit. Who cares, especially when we lie a few points off relegation. I'm sure you wouldn't be so vocal if our managers surname was Hitzfeld. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. I really think they might bin him, they're not anywhere near as stupid as I thought they were and they'll want to be getting maximum return on a lot of the good work they're doing off the pitch. They're ruthless too and I'd be surprised if Pardew's contract was worth the paper it was written on, in terms of the implications of sacking him. The only thing making me think they'd veer on the side of keeping him is that they're happy they can control him and haven't had the best track record in that respect with other managers, however I think there are other managers that would work in similar circumstances as it seems to be the way football's going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 If they have any sense they'll see that finishing 5th was a one off with this manager, and that we'll never get anywhere near that again with Pardew in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of f***ing Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. See what I mean... I think Ashley has done such a great job over the years of demolishing fans' aspirations and ambitions for the club to the point where just staying up is something to be thankful for and there is also this mentality of we have to keep someone like Pardew because no-one else will want the job or we will not get anyone better in. Just look at the gushing over making 1m + profit. Who cares, especially when we lie a few points off relegation. I agree Jimmy and its fucking sad isn't it. I don't look forward to the match day these days, I can't stand the way we play and get extremely frustrated and pissed off with us when I see us play to the point where I switch off or don't even bother. I can take defeats like today, losing 4-0 etc. I can even take being so low in the table. Its the god awful football I cannot stomach. If we had a team full of Gardners, Cattermoles etc. aye but not with the players we have. Pardew wants shot with shit for the football we serve up, honestly it is as bad as anything the likes of Souness, Roeder and even fucking Kinnear served up. Its on a par with Big Sam's football and worse in many respects. I hate it and I hate Pardew for it and soon if we continue I'll start hating all things NUFC to the point where I'll not be wanting to get my son into NUFC and footy because its shit to be frank, everything about it from officials, the national team, FifFa, the FA, Man City, Abramovic, every stinking thing about the modern game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. I really think they might bin him, they're not anywhere near as stupid as I thought they were and they'll want to be getting maximum return on a lot of the good work they're doing off the pitch. They're ruthless too and I'd be surprised if Pardew's contract was worth the paper it was written on, in terms of the implications of sacking him. Knowing Ashley an 8 year contract pay off for Pardew would cost less than paying any of the previous owners managers off for 6 months worth. I think it will be this summer unless he wins the Europa cup or Jan if we arent in the top 10 by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. I really think they might bin him, they're not anywhere near as stupid as I thought they were and they'll want to be getting maximum return on a lot of the good work they're doing off the pitch. They're ruthless too and I'd be surprised if Pardew's contract was worth the paper it was written on, in terms of the implications of sacking him. Knowing Ashley an 8 year contract pay off for Pardew would cost less than paying any of the previous owners managers off for 6 months worth. I think it will be this summer unless he wins the Europa cup or Jan if we arent in the top 10 by then. Me too, Ashley and Llambias are all about value for money etc and I'd imagine they'll be really fucked off about this season, regardless of their own dallying last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 IMO no manager should get binned during the season unless we're in very serious danger of going down (ie even worse than we're doing now) and/or he has completely lost the dressing room, or some ridiculously good alternative magically becomes available and expresses a lifelong desire to manage us for a pittance. I tend to agree and would stick with him until the season ends but if we lose against the mackems... Plus we are still deep in it anyway as things stand right now. Pardew has had a very good ride this year because if his surname was Souness or Allardyce or Roeder there would have been hell on for the s*** we've served up and where we lie in the table. I think Ashley has done such a great job over the years of demolishing fans' aspirations and ambitions for the club to the point where just staying up is something to be thankful for and there is also this mentality of we have to keep someone like Pardew because no-one else will want the job or we will not get anyone better in. Just look at the gushing over making 1m + profit. Who cares, especially when we lie a few points off relegation. I'm sure you wouldn't be so vocal if our managers surname was Hitzfeld. Sad bastard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. I really think they might bin him, they're not anywhere near as stupid as I thought they were and they'll want to be getting maximum return on a lot of the good work they're doing off the pitch. They're ruthless too and I'd be surprised if Pardew's contract was worth the paper it was written on, in terms of the implications of sacking him. Knowing Ashley an 8 year contract pay off for Pardew would cost less than paying any of the previous owners managers off for 6 months worth. I think it will be this summer unless he wins the Europa cup or Jan if we arent in the top 10 by then. Me too, Ashley and Llambias are all about value for money etc and I'd imagine they'll be really fucked off about this season, regardless of their own dallying last summer. He gets paid up a year of his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Sad b****** He does have a point as they have comparable records as managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 If they have any sense they'll see that finishing 5th was a one off with this manager, and that we'll never get anywhere near that again with Pardew in charge. How can you come to that conclusion exactly? How is that fair to say that last season was the one off and this season truly represents his ability? And that it can't possibly be the other way around. For that reason that's why he needs to stay until at least January, imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. I really think they might bin him, they're not anywhere near as stupid as I thought they were and they'll want to be getting maximum return on a lot of the good work they're doing off the pitch. They're ruthless too and I'd be surprised if Pardew's contract was worth the paper it was written on, in terms of the implications of sacking him. Knowing Ashley an 8 year contract pay off for Pardew would cost less than paying any of the previous owners managers off for 6 months worth. I think it will be this summer unless he wins the Europa cup or Jan if we arent in the top 10 by then. Me too, Ashley and Llambias are all about value for money etc and I'd imagine they'll be really fucked off about this season, regardless of their own dallying last summer. He gets paid up a year of his contract. Aye, that's what people seem to be saying. £1m or whatever seems like a fucking bargain at the minute. The thing that does cross my mind sometimes is if we somehow managed to win the Europa League then I'd have to get a tattoo of Pardew's face on my chest or something, I place so much value on winning a trophy after 40-odd years of under-achievement and it would feel like the ultimate irony if a manager that I've never really taken to (other than giving him credit here and there for good results, etc) was the one that delivered it for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I do think January was a wake up call to Pardew by the board tbh. They'll be unimpressed by this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 How long do we give him next season? First 10 games? 20? The full season? This season, our performances, him picking the likes of fucking Obertan is the real Alan Pardew, a lower league manager out of his depth. It's irrelevant "how long we give him" because our opinion doesn't register with the owner. He'll do exactly as he pleases with our club, and that's likely to be sticking with Pardew. This reality makes it so difficult to support the club/team at the moment because with this squad we all know we could do so much better with a decent coach. I really think they might bin him, they're not anywhere near as stupid as I thought they were and they'll want to be getting maximum return on a lot of the good work they're doing off the pitch. They're ruthless too and I'd be surprised if Pardew's contract was worth the paper it was written on, in terms of the implications of sacking him. Knowing Ashley an 8 year contract pay off for Pardew would cost less than paying any of the previous owners managers off for 6 months worth. I think it will be this summer unless he wins the Europa cup or Jan if we arent in the top 10 by then. Me too, Ashley and Llambias are all about value for money etc and I'd imagine they'll be really fucked off about this season, regardless of their own dallying last summer. He gets paid up a year of his contract. Aye, that's what people seem to be saying. £1m or whatever seems like a fucking bargain at the minute. The thing that does cross my mind sometimes is if we somehow managed to win the Europa League then I'd have to get a tattoo of Pardew's face on my chest or something, I place so much value on winning a trophy after 40-odd years of under-achievement and it feel like the ultimate irony if a manager that I've never really taken to (other than giving him credit here and there for good results, etc) was the one that delivered it for us. was just wondering what the Pardew Haters would do if we won the Europa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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