Spudil Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 People still clinging to hope of him going any time soon. Wise up. If we narrowly avoid relegation, say it goes down to the last day, do you still think he'll be kept on like? I think he'll go in the scenario or something close enough to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 People still clinging to hope of him going any time soon. Wise up. If we narrowly avoid relegation, say it goes down to the last day, do you still think he'll be kept on like? Yeah. If we finish with a whimper and are still doing shite by next January then the club will start asking questions, particularly if summer investment is there. Until then I genuinely think it's a complete non-starter and people are going to be disappointed for a long time if they've convinced themselves that he's likely to be replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 People still clinging to hope of him going any time soon. Wise up. If we narrowly avoid relegation, say it goes down to the last day, do you still think he'll be kept on like? I think he'll go in the scenario or something close enough to it. It's hard to say. I would think Ashley has no intention of sacking him, but then again it's hard to predict what he might do with much confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Llambias spelled it out when he said everyone's allowed a bad season. Pardew's going nowhere any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Llambias spelled it out when he said everyone's allowed a bad season. Pardew's going nowhere any time soon. Exactly. He's also got a decent excuse after the club didn't back him enough in the summer. Whatever you think of Pardew (and currently for me that's not a great deal), it's a fact that we didn't do enough and January was proof of that. Everyone at the club admitted it was a mistake. They backed him in January and I expect them to do the same this summer, albeit without the players which we brought forward deals on. If that happens and we're still doing shit - without Europe - then his position will be considered. Until then, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 As long as we stay up i foresee him staying and getting backed in the summer. If he still fails after that then maybe a change might happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Anyone think he'll do an end of season phone-in this year? No. There won't be a lap of honor as well imo after the Arsenal game. There should bloody well be a lap of apology. The players and coaching staff will most definitely want to acknowledge the fans on the last day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 As long as we stay up i foresee him staying and getting backed in the summer. If he still fails after that then maybe a change might happen. If we go down he's probably the best manager we could realistically get for that division so i would keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 As long as we stay up i foresee him staying and getting backed in the summer. If he still fails after that then maybe a change might happen. If we go down he's probably the best manager we could realistically get for that division so i would keep him. What's your view on what should happen if we stay up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Kind of hoping I'll wake up to.. http://i47.tinypic.com/2ylus20.png At the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Haters gonna hate that image size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Probably also depends if a much better manager was available and the board would think its a step up in that regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 As long as we stay up i foresee him staying and getting backed in the summer. If he still fails after that then maybe a change might happen. If we go down he's probably the best manager we could realistically get for that division so i would keep him. What's your view on what should happen if we stay up? I think if any part of the squad/management/coaching can be upgraded, it should. The tricky thing is knowing if who you bring in will actually bring about an improvement. It's easy for anyone to flippantly say 'Pellegrini, Montanier, Benitez, Martinez' etc. The last top manager we had was SBR and that was because he was out of work and a Geordie. Other than that, unless we pay VERY big, we're not going to attract the cream, we have to look at those rated a tier or two down. The first thing would be for the board to have a long and frank talk with Pardew about HIS performance, what he would want to do to improve it, does he need more coaches (clearly he does), etc. If he has a clear plan and objectives, is in complete agreement with the players we would bring in, i would wonder if it's an idea to give him one more season. At the same time talk to someone like Laudrup's (got a lower half team playing very well and effectively and knows the league) advisors and see if he wants the job for the season after next. If Pardew has an average or worse season, pull the trigger. We talk about all these wonderfully named people in La Liga and the like. They might struggle here, as Spurs found out. Ramos had a great rep but flunked there. So for me (at the moment) Pardew + new coaches (i don't mean a bus). But if it's Pardew + the same staff around him, i don't see how it can improve. Then we might as well take a chance on someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Addendum: If we fail to win another game this season, i think he'd have to go. Don't think the players would believe in him anymore. They might like him but they'll have it confirmed to them that he is crap (think someone of them think this already, with good reason, alas.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 As long as we stay up i foresee him staying and getting backed in the summer. If he still fails after that then maybe a change might happen. If we go down he's probably the best manager we could realistically get for that division so i would keep him. I don't think Pardew is even particularly credible at that level. In his last job he was sacked from a league 1 club and before that he was sacked from Charlton because he had them on the way to being relegated to league 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He's gone if we lose to West Brom in my opinion. Only problem is we'll then get Mark Hughes. No doubt about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He's gone if we lose to West Brom in my opinion. Only problem is we'll then get Mark Hughes. No doubt about it. How much money have you put on that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Neither of those things would happen, whether we win/lose/draw to West Brom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The earliest he'll be gone is the summer and that is a big IF in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? Im a hater (kneejerk) unless he does well in a cup and league, looks more attacking and we beat the mackems - Tall order Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? He can win me round even in 2 years time if he starts doing well, I'll still be here. Most of the good players won't, that's the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? Im a hater (kneejerk) unless he does well in a cup and league, looks more attacking and we beat the mackems - Tall order Alan. That's the other problem, Pardew has now become the Steve Bruce of Tyneside. I can see him waving the white flag to Di Canio for the foreseeable future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm resigned to him staying, which begs the question as to whether he can win anyone around from this position? If he can would it be the first time in recent history that a manager has done it? Im a hater (kneejerk) unless he does well in a cup and league, looks more attacking and we beat the mackems - Tall order Alan. That's the other problem, Pardew has now become the Steve Bruce of Tyneside. I can see him waving the white flag to Di Canio for the foreseeable future. Tbf, after we hammered them 5-1 they went on a good run. If we could do the same i'd be more than happy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Their would have to be significant changes on and off the field for him to turn it around for me. He could stop opening his mouth at every opportunity for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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