Nobody Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 No, TCD reckons that pass completion rate "tells the whole story". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 No, TCD reckons that pass completion rate "tells the whole story". He's clearly Joe Allen trying to troll me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Who gives a flying f*ck about pass completion rate man? For example Sissoko's was above 90 and he was miles better against Stoke. I agree in some games we should drop Sissoko alongside Cabaye and play Marveaux behind Cisse. But pass completion rates have f*ck all to do with it doesn't matter how many passes you complete it matters how many passes are actually creating opportunities. F*ck off Joe Allen. Yaya Toure, Juan Mata, Wilshere. 3 players in the exact same position as Siss in the last few weeks. 80% minimum. Mole, you try to disagree with me but then end up agreeing with my point in the end. He wasn't "Boss" yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If you're #10 always gives the ball away he won't create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If you're #10 always gives the ball away he won't create. Fucks sake man, I've refrained from correcting you for a fair few pages because you're clearly a bit weird, but you need to fucking learn to spell if you're going to contribute to a discussion mainly written in English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 his passing was erratic yesterday but lets not act like its been a common occurrence and despite his passing being erratic he still created opportunities for others. Fact is passing completion rates will never matter, i'm much more interested in how many actual chances he creates and you can't be disappointed with that at all. Everyone was erratic yesterday its just one of those things, not everyone can perform to their optimal level every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I thought he played well yesterday, pretty much our only forward player who caused them a real problem 'til the equaliser/subs. I know nowt though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest loven Mag 11 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If you're #10 always gives the ball away he won't create. So if we take another stat into consideration then? Dribbling? Hatem makes and is successful with a hell of a lot of runs, but will be tackled. But becuase he tries these dribbles in the final third does this mean that for example, Jonas who does his dribbling in our last third mean he is better than Ben Arfa? No, it doesnt, so please stop talking s***. Its called taking risks and I am pleased Sissoko has the awareness and attacking intent to atleast try these passes. Because when they come off, we get rewards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 His pace, running, strength and ability to drive us forward on the counter is exactly what we needed. Everyone was losing their minds earlier in the season b/c we had 0 ability to counter and our transitional phase of play was slow as molasses. He WAS a boss yesterday out there and as long as he's running all over the pitch causing havoc he's doing his job. One or two of those passes will come right soon and we'll score from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I'm still not sure with him playing that behind the striker role though, obviously he has done well, but for most part yesterday he was at his best when coming from deep with the ball. Exactly like Yaya. At times he plays as a 2nd forward a la Nolan and I'm not sure that's his best position even if he has had couple of good games there. I just think he is playing to high up while Cisse is playing to far down the pitch. If we could push Cisse to play off the last defender that would create enormous space for Sissoko to play that box-to-box role that I think he's more suited for. As for him as a player, £1.8m What a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I'm still not sure with him playing that behind the striker role though, obviously he has done well, but for most part yesterday he was at his best when coming from deep with the ball. Exactly like Yaya. At times he plays as a 2nd forward a la Nolan and I'm not sure that's his best position even if he has had couple of good games there. I just think he is playing to high up while Cisse is playing to far down the pitch. If we could push Cisse to play off the last defender that would create enormous space for Sissoko to play that box-to-box role that I think he's more suited for. As for him as a player, £1.8m What a bargain. Yep, ive been saying the same thing. I would prefer him deeper in a central role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I think he'll naturally play a bit deeper once Hatem comes back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 His passing was well off yesterday, don't see how anyone could argue with that. His ball carrying on the other hand was classy. What a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 He'll be an absolute monster away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If you're #10 always gives the ball away he won't create. So if we take another stat into consideration then? Dribbling? Hatem makes and is successful with a hell of a lot of runs, but will be tackled. But becuase he tries these dribbles in the final third does this mean that for example, Jonas who does his dribbling in our last third mean he is better than Ben Arfa? No, it doesnt, so please stop talking s***. Its called taking risks and I am pleased Sissoko has the awareness and attacking intent to atleast try these passes. Because when they come off, we get rewards. I'm comparing him to Juan fucking Mata. The first ro second highest assister in the league not fucking Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Sissoko is not even close to being similar to Mata. He's a Yaya, full of pace and power. He's not a natural playmaker. That's for Cabaye and Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 His pace, running, strength and ability to drive us forward on the counter is exactly what we needed. Everyone was losing their minds earlier in the season b/c we had 0 ability to counter and our transitional phase of play was slow as molasses. He WAS a boss yesterday out there and as long as he's running all over the pitch causing havoc he's doing his job. One or two of those passes will come right soon and we'll score from them. No. Stoke played very deep and where rarely there to be countered. We needed a more patient approach. Wait for the right pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Sissoko is not even close to being similar to Mata. He's a Yaya, full of pace and power. He's not a natural playmaker. That's for Cabaye and Ben Arfa. Toure too. Passing 80% or better at AM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 He'll be an absolute monster away from home. Agreed. Yesterday his running was wasted by poor passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If stats meant everything, Allardyce would be the best manager around. They don't and he's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If stats meant everything, Allardyce would be the best manager around. They don't and he's not. Was his passing good on Sunday? Did he find his man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inu Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If stats meant everything, Allardyce would be the best manager around. They don't and he's not. Was his passing good on Sunday? Did he find his man? He always look for the hard pass to make so that the attack wont stop up. He dont turn and look for a safe pass to halt the attack like Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If stats meant everything, Allardyce would be the best manager around. They don't and he's not. Was his passing good on Sunday? Did he find his man? He always look for the hard pass to make so that the attack wont stop up. He dont turn and look for a safe pass to halt the attack like Jonas. Is there a medium between losing the ball and halting the attack and a Jonas pass? You know, the type Yaya Toure or Juan Mata make? Funnily enough. When playing alongside Perch & Bigi, Tiote didn't get nearly as much slack for trying hollywood balls "all the time". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If stats meant everything, Allardyce would be the best manager around. They don't and he's not. Was his passing good on Sunday? Did he find his man? Nah, not particularly, but it's not even worth mentioning, let alone crying over stats about, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Course it's worth mentioning. If you're #10 can't find his man, your team will struggle to create. His passing was the worst in our side. People liek to say I am biased so i'm bringing facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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