TRon Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 26/11/2014 at 22:16, Smal said: In his overall time here Sissoko has definitely shown he has significant technical deficiencies. There's been long periods where the ball has just bounced off his feet and he's lost possession. His passing hasn't been the best either. Saying that, he's been exceptional in pretty much every regard the last couple of months but let's not forget the previous several months where at times he barely looked like a footballer. Only to people who had blinkers on. He's exactly the same now as he was all last season, except he's playing through the middle now which is his natural position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I think his technical deficiencies are exaggerated quite a lot, he seems to cope fine when playing in congested midfield areas, carrying the ball at pace and his shooting and through balls are also pretty decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 His inconsistent passing is more noticeable than his touch IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 12:48, Ian W said: I think his technical deficiencies are exaggerated quite a lot, he seems to cope fine when playing in congested midfield areas, carrying the ball at pace and his shooting and through balls are also pretty decent. Losing the ball while driving forwards and trying to go past people counts as technical deficiency to a certain section of fans. Touching the ball once and passing it sideways 3 yards like Colback is what those people consider technical proficiency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 00:18, Deuce said: Quote but he has 2 key strengths that this League in particular is all about, especially when played centrally and that is power, pace, strength and running. He's quick, he's fast and he's got pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 12:40, Ian W said: Quote Quote Quote I'd build a midfield around Sissoko man. Someone to do his dirty work and let him boss it everywhere else. He's terrifyingly good in this form. building a team around sissoko dictates you're in for the long haul as a defensive, counter-attacking team like Not sure that's necessarily true, even if we had more possession I don't see why he wouldn't be effective. Everyone counter attacks sometimes, there are a lot of transitions in football. I'm not one of those who still questions if he can play in a team with more possession and playing further up field more frequently like some. I'm one who believes he can do it all through the middle - he just needs a good cleanup man and another ball passer or more creative player next to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 13:17, Kanji said: Quote Quote Quote Quote I'd build a midfield around Sissoko man. Someone to do his dirty work and let him boss it everywhere else. He's terrifyingly good in this form. building a team around sissoko dictates you're in for the long haul as a defensive, counter-attacking team like Not sure that's necessarily true, even if we had more possession I don't see why he wouldn't be effective. Everyone counter attacks sometimes, there are a lot of transitions in football. I'm not one of those who still questions if he can play in a team with more possession and playing further up field more frequently like some. I'm one who believes he can do it all through the middle - he just needs a good cleanup man and another ball passer or more creative player next to him. I think we just have different definitions of what building a team around a player means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 He could play in any number of systems, to be honest, a player of his ilk can have a role in a variety of gameplans. He's the ultimate transition player, granted, but he's got far more in his locker than just being strong & fast. Consistency is an issue; but he's shown he's capable of doing a lot of different things in his time here, I wouldn't say he's limited in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 12:36, mrmojorisin75 said: Quote Quote I'd build a midfield around Sissoko man. Someone to do his dirty work and let him boss it everywhere else. He's terrifyingly good in this form. building a team around sissoko dictates you're in for the long haul as a defensive, counter-attacking team like He's no Cronaldo but R Madrid have been a counter-attacking team ever since he's joined. Hardly a defensive team. Napoli Mazzarri a very counter-attacking team. in fact most Mourinho teams are basically counter-attacking teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 13:49, The College Dropout said: Quote Quote Quote I'd build a midfield around Sissoko man. Someone to do his dirty work and let him boss it everywhere else. He's terrifyingly good in this form. building a team around sissoko dictates you're in for the long haul as a defensive, counter-attacking team like He's no Cronaldo but R Madrid have been a counter-attacking team ever since he's joined. Hardly a defensive team. Napoli Mazzarri a very counter-attacking team. in fact most Mourinho teams are basically counter-attacking teams. Well yeah, but we've got Pardew in charge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 12:52, triggs said: Quote Quote but he has 2 key strengths that this League in particular is all about, especially when played centrally and that is power, pace, strength and running. He's quick, he's fast and he's got pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 When he get's going it's almost ridiculous how fast he can go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 13:21, mrmojorisin75 said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I'd build a midfield around Sissoko man. Someone to do his dirty work and let him boss it everywhere else. He's terrifyingly good in this form. building a team around sissoko dictates you're in for the long haul as a defensive, counter-attacking team like Not sure that's necessarily true, even if we had more possession I don't see why he wouldn't be effective. Everyone counter attacks sometimes, there are a lot of transitions in football. I'm not one of those who still questions if he can play in a team with more possession and playing further up field more frequently like some. I'm one who believes he can do it all through the middle - he just needs a good cleanup man and another ball passer or more creative player next to him. I think we just have different definitions of what building a team around a player means. Oh ya? What is yours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 27/11/2014 at 20:07, Kanji said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I'd build a midfield around Sissoko man. Someone to do his dirty work and let him boss it everywhere else. He's terrifyingly good in this form. building a team around sissoko dictates you're in for the long haul as a defensive, counter-attacking team like Not sure that's necessarily true, even if we had more possession I don't see why he wouldn't be effective. Everyone counter attacks sometimes, there are a lot of transitions in football. I'm not one of those who still questions if he can play in a team with more possession and playing further up field more frequently like some. I'm one who believes he can do it all through the middle - he just needs a good cleanup man and another ball passer or more creative player next to him. I think we just have different definitions of what building a team around a player means. Oh ya? What is yours? notice i don't say i think you're wrong for me building a team around a midfield player means developing a style of play that revolves around that player as your primary attacking weapon, in a sense what pardew wanted to do with cabaye except he wasn't very good at it i'm not sure you could necessarily do that with sissoko as i honestly don't think he's got the tools to be able to control possession and control games so you'd essentially be looking to set yourself up as a counter-attacking team with sissoko as the ultimate transition player you could try to make him the yaya of your team but i'm also not convinced he's got the consistency or goals in him to make that work if you end up signing players to control the play and also use him as the transition player in the team then you're not really building a team around him imho it's semantics though at the end of the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 All Pardew teams are counter-attacking anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 28/11/2014 at 08:43, The College Dropout said: All Pardew teams are counter-attacking anyway. They're counter fucking everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I remember first half against Fulham (a) when we lost 5-2 we looked to fully control the game. But that is a rarity for Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 The way we've been set up for this winning run I'd argue it has been based around Sissoko tbh, making sure he can be at his most effective on the counter (Basically removing his defensive responsibilities, while still having him predominantly playing as a hybrid CM/CAM). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 28/11/2014 at 10:01, mozy said: (Basically removing his defensive responsibilities, while still having him predominantly playing as a hybrid CM/CAM). # Aye, he needs space to run into. He played on the right of central midfield 3 which was very narrow against WBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 28/11/2014 at 09:59, The College Dropout said: I remember first half against Fulham (a) when we lost 5-2 we looked to fully control the game. But that is a rarity for Pardew. Yep, I was at that game and we were absolutely cruising in the first half. I was telling my girlfriend that she was lucky to be at such a good NUFC performance. Then the implosion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 28/11/2014 at 16:20, Ian W said: Quote I remember first half against Fulham (a) when we lost 5-2 we looked to fully control the game. But that is a rarity for Pardew. Yep, I was at that game and we were absolutely cruising in the first half. I was telling my girlfriend that she was lucky to be at such a good NUFC performance. Then the implosion. Aye, arguably the most controlling i've ever seen a Pardew side play away in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 sadly he'll be back on the wing when de jong is back I bet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 28/11/2014 at 18:20, Tiresias said: sadly he'll be back on the wing when de jong is back I bet De Jong being fully fit will be about January? Sissoko sold, De Jong slots in.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Fair point :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 26/11/2014 at 19:49, HTT said: He's still a massively limited footballer in the all-round general sense of things, but he has 2 key strengths that this League in particular is all about, especially when played centrally and that is power, pace, strength and running. I'm not getting carried away, however, Pardew has just won 6 on the bounce for example. If your're shit your're shit. In Sissoko's defence he's not exactly shit, but he's not exactly good either. Not in general and consistently anyway. I'm willing to change my mind if he can have a stellar season and keep it going, though... Milligan, Cleese, Everett. Sessions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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