madras Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Not sure about legal action like. You start going down a dangerous path with that. Plus, have to remember some of our own players over time. Remember Guthrie breaking that lads leg, played for Hull I think. i'd have no problem with our players getting sued if they done something like that (especially in guthries case as it wasn't even a tackle, that was ABH). however it's going to be difficuilt to get a court to decide on intent etc. It really isn't. You don't actually have to prove intent per se for any criminal offence/negligence action against the person. but if you couldn't prove intent then it opens up prosecutions for injuries where there was no intent, do we want to go down that route ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 doesnt savage realise thats why he never made it at manu, and starred instead for the likes of brum, leicester, blackburn and derby. how the hell has he ended up with a column for the bbc? Predominantly due to his distinctive head foliage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheGreatBeardo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 it doesn't matter if it's 50/50 or not if you don't even attempt to play the ball. Yup. And in any case, surely it can only be defined as a 50/50 if both players are actually going for the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The Guardian say: The club are understood to be examining their legal options with a view to potentially taking action if Haïdara is sidelined for a significant period. The initial signs are, though, that the damage may not be as bad as first feared. Probably just speculating, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 It's horrible and reckless but it's part of the game unfortunately. why ? I played football for nearly 30yrs and never once felt the need to tackle like that. Me too (not quite the 30 year part). You have to be an out and out cunt to tackle like that and it's a choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Not sure about legal action like. You start going down a dangerous path with that. Plus, have to remember some of our own players over time. Remember Guthrie breaking that lads leg, played for Hull I think. i'd have no problem with our players getting sued if they done something like that (especially in guthries case as it wasn't even a tackle, that was ABH). however it's going to be difficuilt to get a court to decide on intent etc. It really isn't. You don't actually have to prove intent per se for any criminal offence/negligence action against the person. but if you couldn't prove intent then it opens up prosecutions for injuries where there was no intent, do we want to go down that route ? Yes. If serious injury can be reasonably foreseen by the offending player the tackle shouldn't be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Not sure about legal action like. You start going down a dangerous path with that. Plus, have to remember some of our own players over time. Remember Guthrie breaking that lads leg, played for Hull I think. i'd have no problem with our players getting sued if they done something like that (especially in guthries case as it wasn't even a tackle, that was ABH). however it's going to be difficuilt to get a court to decide on intent etc. It really isn't. You don't actually have to prove intent per se for any criminal offence/negligence action against the person. but if you couldn't prove intent then it opens up prosecutions for injuries where there was no intent, do we want to go down that route ? Yes. If serious injury can be reasonably foreseen by the offending player the tackle shouldn't be made. and thats what would be very difficuilt to prove in court imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strongbow69 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Imagine if it was a French player on a young promising Englishmen (lol)? or haidara on rooney, holy shitstorm, hope the kids ok anyhow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Sam Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 "I spoke to Derek Llambias after the match and, I have to say, the Newcastle people who we dined with took it all on the chin and thought, 'yeah it is part and parcel of the game." Whelan is a fucking clown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Just saw the footage of the tackle (I'm a bit squeamish). That's not even 50/50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 "I spoke to Derek Llambias after the match and, I have to say, the Newcastle people who we dined with took it all on the chin and thought, 'yeah it is part and parcel of the game." Whelan is a fucking clown More of a case of doing the pleasantries so it didn't end up in a brawl. Whelan reminds me of another person in football, Blatter. Both are old and senile, both are corrupt, both don't have clue about football, both only care about money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Sam Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 "I spoke to Derek Llambias after the match and, I have to say, the Newcastle people who we dined with took it all on the chin and thought, 'yeah it is part and parcel of the game." Whelan is a f***ing clown More of a case of doing the pleasantries so it didn't end up in a brawl. Whelan reminds me of another person in football, Blatter. Both are old and senile, both are corrupt, both don't have clue about football, both only care about money. Yeah.. also ridiculously deluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Imagine if it was a French player on a young promising Englishmen (lol)? Agreed. Imagine if Cabaye had done that to Wilshere ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 So has McManaman been drawn and quartered yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Might have been posted before: http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/newcastleunited/id/723?&cc=5739 Good read It is a good read but if you think of the bone cruncher's Anita put in on Thursday and Cabaye on Dembele I'm not sure we should be looking for sympathy. Granted, it's ridiculous that neither Haidara or ben Arfa even got a free kick but in a way that makes it worse - the ref has called a foul and thinks it's only a yellow - the same punishment for kicking the ball away, time wasting, taking your shirt off etc. Like he says at the bottom, it applies to every team, not just Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 How was it a 50/50? Exactly, Savage is talking shite as usual The tackle itself has angered me BUT the reaction of others (former players, refs etc) is pissing me off It was a horrible tackle, baffled why some are reluctant to admit that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 How was it a 50/50? Exactly, Savage is talking shite as usual The tackle itself has angered me BUT the reaction of others (former players, refs etc) is pissing me off It was a horrible tackle, baffled why some are reluctant to admit that there is a huge spiteful jealousy about our club from many who have no affiliation within the game, who crawl out like insects whenever we are the victims to understate the offence, its leading to our players being afforded a lower level of protection than other clubs and some downright cheating by officials in our games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 How does that prick Ryder get paid? FA will announce decisions on Wigan-gate this morning. Decisions on McManaman, Barrow and John Carver awaited. #nufc Reads like a train station PA the clown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Linesman's view (from the daily mail) http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/18/article-2295249-18C00FD0000005DC-45_634x472.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 aye- saw that during match of the day- absolutely no excuse for that linesnman not to make the correct call, the same cunt who did the whispering in the refs ear abour carver- edit- move than on half a second and i bet you will see him coming in studs up knee high- how on earth he didnt call it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Makes you fucking sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 The linesman's view, from that image, is misleading. What you don't see is that, at the exact moment of challenge, an unruly sparrow hawk blocked his field of vision. It's unclear at this time, but there has been speculation that the sparrow hawk was wearing a blue and white jumpsuit with 'JJB 4 EVA - ASHLEY'S A COCK' emblazoned across the chest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 May be a Giggs but some interesting quotes in these articles. http://writemark.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/is-dave-whelan-right-when-he-accuses.html http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/8169234.Dave_Whelan__My_life_story__part_one/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Whelan really is an utter c*ck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 The linesman's view, from that image, is misleading. What you don't see is that, at the exact moment of challenge, an unruly sparrow hawk blocked his field of vision. It's unclear at this time, but there has been speculation that the sparrow hawk was wearing a blue and white jumpsuit with 'JJB 4 EVA - ASHLEY'S A COCK' emblazoned across the chest. Fucking hell, the plot thickens! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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