Shak Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Has to start against Chelsea. He's a class above Taylor who, while not horrible against Villa, didn't exactly look composed either. There was one point in the second half where he got very lucky. Big high looping ball into the box from a free kick that Taylor looked in great position to deal with pretty routinely, instead he sort of gradually fell over and was only saved by the fact that Benteke wasn't really on the ball either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Has to start against Chelsea. He's a class above Taylor who, while not horrible against Villa, didn't exactly look composed either. There was one point in the second half where he got very lucky. Big high looping ball into the box from a free kick that Taylor looked in great position to deal with pretty routinely, instead he sort of gradually fell over and was only saved by the fact that Benteke wasn't really on the ball either. he needs to start against chelsea because he is much more fitting to that style. if we were playing stoke i'd still be tempted to play taylor, maybe even instead of colo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Has to start against Chelsea. He's a class above Taylor who, while not horrible against Villa, didn't exactly look composed either. There was one point in the second half where he got very lucky. Big high looping ball into the box from a free kick that Taylor looked in great position to deal with pretty routinely, instead he sort of gradually fell over and was only saved by the fact that Benteke wasn't really on the ball either. he needs to start against chelsea because he is much more fitting to that style. if we were playing stoke i'd still be tempted to play taylor, maybe even instead of colo. You'd be tempted to drop Colo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I rate Taylor but thought he was terrible last night,luckily Bentekes finishing was awful.Would definently start Mbiwa against chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Has to start against Chelsea. He's a class above Taylor who, while not horrible against Villa, didn't exactly look composed either. There was one point in the second half where he got very lucky. Big high looping ball into the box from a free kick that Taylor looked in great position to deal with pretty routinely, instead he sort of gradually fell over and was only saved by the fact that Benteke wasn't really on the ball either. he needs to start against chelsea because he is much more fitting to that style. if we were playing stoke i'd still be tempted to play taylor, maybe even instead of colo. You'd be tempted to drop Colo? yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tooj Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Against a team like Stoke I can totally see where madras is coming from. We know Taylor's not the best when coming up against pace. Whereas against Stoke he wouldn't get exposed for pace and his type of game or battle if you like is suited to playing against Stoke, certainly more than Colo's game is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. People always say that Taylor makes some good last ditch tackles and blocks, without considering why he's having to make those kind of interventions. Quite a large part of the reason is because of the way he plays, he invites pressure by continually backing off and lets the opposition get forward into a dangerous position before doing anything about it. If he was more composed a la Coloccini then he would either intervene earlier in a position where even if he got it wrong and gave away either the ball or a foul it wouldn't matter much, or shepherd the opposition player away from danger, rather than letting them advance towards goal which is what he does normally. When we're on top of a game or it's pretty even it's not a huge deal because Colo's calming influence can win out, but when we're under concerted pressure in a game, like we were last night, his style of play doesn't alleviate that it amplifies it. I'm not blaming him for what happened last night, the whole team was panicking throughout the second half, not just him, what I'm saying is that I think Yanga-Mbiwa might have been able to calm the rest of them down, whereas Taylor's never going to be able to do that. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad, but now that we have two good centre backs at the club, why would you play a not bad one ahead of them? I'm more than happy with his position at the club if as it seems is likely he's going to provide willing and able cover for Colo and Mapou, but if Colo goes in the summer then we absolutely must get someone else in to play in front of him and Williamson. I think the fact he started last night had much more to do with things outside of pure footballing reasons than it did with putting out the best team available to us. most of the reason for the last ditch tackles are when someone breaks off someone else and taylor has had to cover. it's rarely the man he was marking that he has had to last ditch tackle and for what it's worth colo done little last night to alleviate any pressure, for all his composed nature he wasn't any better than taylor. Yeah, like I said, they were all s*** in the second half, including Colo, but he's not usually like that, is he, and I haven't just come to this conclusion after watching last night's game, you know. As for the last ditch tackles, well that may be so, but notice how often it's Taylor standing a metre or two behind the rest who's playing them onside in the first place. More often than not that's exactly what happens. and taylor isn't usually shit either. the last ditch tackles bit is getting silly now. someone's mentioned he makes decent last ditch tackles and you can't deny it so you are trying to find ways to make it negative. Care to point out where I said he is usually shit? What I'm actually trying to do is state my opinion and then respond to the points made by those who have argued against it, that's kinda supposed to be the whole point of a forum, at least I thought it was. Must remember for next time someone disagrees with me to simply call him a cunt and have done with it, this is not the right place for discussion, I see. I never even tried to deny it, you would know that if you'd actually read what I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Thankfully the CB position isn't something we need to worry about any more. Williamson is sufficiently down the pecking order and it's surely only a matter of time before MYM takes over from Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. People always say that Taylor makes some good last ditch tackles and blocks, without considering why he's having to make those kind of interventions. Quite a large part of the reason is because of the way he plays, he invites pressure by continually backing off and lets the opposition get forward into a dangerous position before doing anything about it. If he was more composed a la Coloccini then he would either intervene earlier in a position where even if he got it wrong and gave away either the ball or a foul it wouldn't matter much, or shepherd the opposition player away from danger, rather than letting them advance towards goal which is what he does normally. When we're on top of a game or it's pretty even it's not a huge deal because Colo's calming influence can win out, but when we're under concerted pressure in a game, like we were last night, his style of play doesn't alleviate that it amplifies it. I'm not blaming him for what happened last night, the whole team was panicking throughout the second half, not just him, what I'm saying is that I think Yanga-Mbiwa might have been able to calm the rest of them down, whereas Taylor's never going to be able to do that. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad, but now that we have two good centre backs at the club, why would you play a not bad one ahead of them? I'm more than happy with his position at the club if as it seems is likely he's going to provide willing and able cover for Colo and Mapou, but if Colo goes in the summer then we absolutely must get someone else in to play in front of him and Williamson. I think the fact he started last night had much more to do with things outside of pure footballing reasons than it did with putting out the best team available to us. most of the reason for the last ditch tackles are when someone breaks off someone else and taylor has had to cover. it's rarely the man he was marking that he has had to last ditch tackle and for what it's worth colo done little last night to alleviate any pressure, for all his composed nature he wasn't any better than taylor. Yeah, like I said, they were all s*** in the second half, including Colo, but he's not usually like that, is he, and I haven't just come to this conclusion after watching last night's game, you know. As for the last ditch tackles, well that may be so, but notice how often it's Taylor standing a metre or two behind the rest who's playing them onside in the first place. More often than not that's exactly what happens. and taylor isn't usually s*** either. the last ditch tackles bit is getting silly now. someone's mentioned he makes decent last ditch tackles and you can't deny it so you are trying to find ways to make it negative. Care to point out where I said he is usually s***? What I'm actually trying to do is state my opinion and then respond to the points made by those who have argued against it, that's kinda supposed to be the whole point of a forum, at least I thought it was. Must remember for next time someone disagrees with me to simply call him a c*** and have done with it, this is not the right place for discussion, I see. I never even tried to deny it, you would know that if you'd actually read what I said. i took it when you said they were all shit but colo isn't usually like that thet you were inferring that taylor is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest louistoon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. People always say that Taylor makes some good last ditch tackles and blocks, without considering why he's having to make those kind of interventions. Quite a large part of the reason is because of the way he plays, he invites pressure by continually backing off and lets the opposition get forward into a dangerous position before doing anything about it. If he was more composed a la Coloccini then he would either intervene earlier in a position where even if he got it wrong and gave away either the ball or a foul it wouldn't matter much, or shepherd the opposition player away from danger, rather than letting them advance towards goal which is what he does normally. When we're on top of a game or it's pretty even it's not a huge deal because Colo's calming influence can win out, but when we're under concerted pressure in a game, like we were last night, his style of play doesn't alleviate that it amplifies it. I'm not blaming him for what happened last night, the whole team was panicking throughout the second half, not just him, what I'm saying is that I think Yanga-Mbiwa might have been able to calm the rest of them down, whereas Taylor's never going to be able to do that. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad, but now that we have two good centre backs at the club, why would you play a not bad one ahead of them? I'm more than happy with his position at the club if as it seems is likely he's going to provide willing and able cover for Colo and Mapou, but if Colo goes in the summer then we absolutely must get someone else in to play in front of him and Williamson. I think the fact he started last night had much more to do with things outside of pure footballing reasons than it did with putting out the best team available to us. most of the reason for the last ditch tackles are when someone breaks off someone else and taylor has had to cover. it's rarely the man he was marking that he has had to last ditch tackle and for what it's worth colo done little last night to alleviate any pressure, for all his composed nature he wasn't any better than taylor. Yeah, like I said, they were all s*** in the second half, including Colo, but he's not usually like that, is he, and I haven't just come to this conclusion after watching last night's game, you know. As for the last ditch tackles, well that may be so, but notice how often it's Taylor standing a metre or two behind the rest who's playing them onside in the first place. More often than not that's exactly what happens. Our defence has been absolutely gash all season, and colo as the captain of that defence needs to take a fair amount of responsibility for that. i think he's been pretty average all season to be honest, its not just his fault, we as a team have been fucking horrible this season, but colo has not shone in any game i've watched this season. He's played better than williamson, but that is not saying much, he's certainly not been performing near his best. Taylor has some faults to his game, but we are 10 times the defensive unit with him in the team. We're playing shit and people are looking for excuses. personally i only saw the first half yesterday, but i cant imagine how shit we must have looked in the 2nd to justify some of the responses. In the first half I saw a team that controlled the game (for, completely literally, the first game this season) and created more chances (i mean proper chances) than we usually manage in about 10 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. People always say that Taylor makes some good last ditch tackles and blocks, without considering why he's having to make those kind of interventions. Quite a large part of the reason is because of the way he plays, he invites pressure by continually backing off and lets the opposition get forward into a dangerous position before doing anything about it. If he was more composed a la Coloccini then he would either intervene earlier in a position where even if he got it wrong and gave away either the ball or a foul it wouldn't matter much, or shepherd the opposition player away from danger, rather than letting them advance towards goal which is what he does normally. When we're on top of a game or it's pretty even it's not a huge deal because Colo's calming influence can win out, but when we're under concerted pressure in a game, like we were last night, his style of play doesn't alleviate that it amplifies it. I'm not blaming him for what happened last night, the whole team was panicking throughout the second half, not just him, what I'm saying is that I think Yanga-Mbiwa might have been able to calm the rest of them down, whereas Taylor's never going to be able to do that. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad, but now that we have two good centre backs at the club, why would you play a not bad one ahead of them? I'm more than happy with his position at the club if as it seems is likely he's going to provide willing and able cover for Colo and Mapou, but if Colo goes in the summer then we absolutely must get someone else in to play in front of him and Williamson. I think the fact he started last night had much more to do with things outside of pure footballing reasons than it did with putting out the best team available to us. most of the reason for the last ditch tackles are when someone breaks off someone else and taylor has had to cover. it's rarely the man he was marking that he has had to last ditch tackle and for what it's worth colo done little last night to alleviate any pressure, for all his composed nature he wasn't any better than taylor. Yeah, like I said, they were all s*** in the second half, including Colo, but he's not usually like that, is he, and I haven't just come to this conclusion after watching last night's game, you know. As for the last ditch tackles, well that may be so, but notice how often it's Taylor standing a metre or two behind the rest who's playing them onside in the first place. More often than not that's exactly what happens. and taylor isn't usually s*** either. the last ditch tackles bit is getting silly now. someone's mentioned he makes decent last ditch tackles and you can't deny it so you are trying to find ways to make it negative. Care to point out where I said he is usually s***? What I'm actually trying to do is state my opinion and then respond to the points made by those who have argued against it, that's kinda supposed to be the whole point of a forum, at least I thought it was. Must remember for next time someone disagrees with me to simply call him a c*** and have done with it, this is not the right place for discussion, I see. I never even tried to deny it, you would know that if you'd actually read what I said. i took it when you said they were all shit but colo isn't usually like that thet you were inferring that taylor is. Can see how you thought that, but it's not what I meant. I said that they were all shit in the second half including Colo, so surely if I was implying something the implication would have been that the were all shit except for Colo. Just for the record, I am not saying the the whole team is shit. What I am saying about Taylor is that he is an average/above average Premiership centre back. He is good at some things, but has a number of faults, the most significant of which would in my opinion be that he backs off way too much and is panicky under pressure. I'm more than happy with him as a back up, but there are now two significantly better centre backs at the club and they should therefore be the ones starting each match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. People always say that Taylor makes some good last ditch tackles and blocks, without considering why he's having to make those kind of interventions. Quite a large part of the reason is because of the way he plays, he invites pressure by continually backing off and lets the opposition get forward into a dangerous position before doing anything about it. If he was more composed a la Coloccini then he would either intervene earlier in a position where even if he got it wrong and gave away either the ball or a foul it wouldn't matter much, or shepherd the opposition player away from danger, rather than letting them advance towards goal which is what he does normally. When we're on top of a game or it's pretty even it's not a huge deal because Colo's calming influence can win out, but when we're under concerted pressure in a game, like we were last night, his style of play doesn't alleviate that it amplifies it. I'm not blaming him for what happened last night, the whole team was panicking throughout the second half, not just him, what I'm saying is that I think Yanga-Mbiwa might have been able to calm the rest of them down, whereas Taylor's never going to be able to do that. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad, but now that we have two good centre backs at the club, why would you play a not bad one ahead of them? I'm more than happy with his position at the club if as it seems is likely he's going to provide willing and able cover for Colo and Mapou, but if Colo goes in the summer then we absolutely must get someone else in to play in front of him and Williamson. I think the fact he started last night had much more to do with things outside of pure footballing reasons than it did with putting out the best team available to us. most of the reason for the last ditch tackles are when someone breaks off someone else and taylor has had to cover. it's rarely the man he was marking that he has had to last ditch tackle and for what it's worth colo done little last night to alleviate any pressure, for all his composed nature he wasn't any better than taylor. Yeah, like I said, they were all s*** in the second half, including Colo, but he's not usually like that, is he, and I haven't just come to this conclusion after watching last night's game, you know. As for the last ditch tackles, well that may be so, but notice how often it's Taylor standing a metre or two behind the rest who's playing them onside in the first place. More often than not that's exactly what happens. and taylor isn't usually s*** either. the last ditch tackles bit is getting silly now. someone's mentioned he makes decent last ditch tackles and you can't deny it so you are trying to find ways to make it negative. Care to point out where I said he is usually s***? What I'm actually trying to do is state my opinion and then respond to the points made by those who have argued against it, that's kinda supposed to be the whole point of a forum, at least I thought it was. Must remember for next time someone disagrees with me to simply call him a c*** and have done with it, this is not the right place for discussion, I see. I never even tried to deny it, you would know that if you'd actually read what I said. i took it when you said they were all s*** but colo isn't usually like that thet you were inferring that taylor is. Can see how you thought that, but it's not what I meant. I said that they were all s*** in the second half including Colo, so surely if I was implying something the implication would have been that the were all s*** except for Colo. Just for the record, I am not saying the the whole team is s***. What I am saying about Taylor is that he is an average/above average Premiership centre back. He is good at some things, but has a number of faults, the most significant of which would in my opinion be that he backs off way too much and is panicky under pressure. I'm more than happy with him as a back up, but there are now two significantly better centre backs at the club and they should therefore be the one's starting each match. i see what you mean and largely agree, however there are some occasions in which i'd be tempted to play taylor alongside, probably m'biwa now (west ham, stoke spring to mind). someone earlier said colo hasn't been what he was last season and i agree with that. i'm hoping it is due to playing in a team thats not doing well, though he is as much part of that as anyone, and it's not like habib beye where we actually got the last decent year out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. It's amazing how bad he has become since Mapou signed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. People always say that Taylor makes some good last ditch tackles and blocks, without considering why he's having to make those kind of interventions. Quite a large part of the reason is because of the way he plays, he invites pressure by continually backing off and lets the opposition get forward into a dangerous position before doing anything about it. If he was more composed a la Coloccini then he would either intervene earlier in a position where even if he got it wrong and gave away either the ball or a foul it wouldn't matter much, or shepherd the opposition player away from danger, rather than letting them advance towards goal which is what he does normally. When we're on top of a game or it's pretty even it's not a huge deal because Colo's calming influence can win out, but when we're under concerted pressure in a game, like we were last night, his style of play doesn't alleviate that it amplifies it. I'm not blaming him for what happened last night, the whole team was panicking throughout the second half, not just him, what I'm saying is that I think Yanga-Mbiwa might have been able to calm the rest of them down, whereas Taylor's never going to be able to do that. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad, but now that we have two good centre backs at the club, why would you play a not bad one ahead of them? I'm more than happy with his position at the club if as it seems is likely he's going to provide willing and able cover for Colo and Mapou, but if Colo goes in the summer then we absolutely must get someone else in to play in front of him and Williamson. I think the fact he started last night had much more to do with things outside of pure footballing reasons than it did with putting out the best team available to us. most of the reason for the last ditch tackles are when someone breaks off someone else and taylor has had to cover. it's rarely the man he was marking that he has had to last ditch tackle and for what it's worth colo done little last night to alleviate any pressure, for all his composed nature he wasn't any better than taylor. Yeah, like I said, they were all s*** in the second half, including Colo, but he's not usually like that, is he, and I haven't just come to this conclusion after watching last night's game, you know. As for the last ditch tackles, well that may be so, but notice how often it's Taylor standing a metre or two behind the rest who's playing them onside in the first place. More often than not that's exactly what happens. Our defence has been absolutely gash all season, and colo as the captain of that defence needs to take a fair amount of responsibility for that. i think he's been pretty average all season to be honest, its not just his fault, we as a team have been fucking horrible this season, but colo has not shone in any game i've watched this season. He's played better than williamson, but that is not saying much, he's certainly not been performing near his best. Taylor has some faults to his game, but we are 10 times the defensive unit with him in the team. We're playing shit and people are looking for excuses. personally i only saw the first half yesterday, but i cant imagine how shit we must have looked in the 2nd to justify some of the responses. In the first half I saw a team that controlled the game (for, completely literally, the first game this season) and created more chances (i mean proper chances) than we usually manage in about 10 games. We were awful in the second half last night, awful, up down there with the worst we've played this season and as you say we've been rubbish all season. Colo has been good at times, on occasion very good, but he's not above criticism, no way. I think the players in general need to have a really good look at themselves for the way they've played so far, it's pretty much a disgrace the difference in the level of performance between now and last year. People like to pin the blame on Pardew or Ashley, but it's the players that are largely responsible for the situation in which we find ourselves, all of them. Despite that, Colo is undeniably a very good player he's shown that consistently for a while now, this season aside. My view on Taylor has been the same for a long time, I've actually warmed to him over the last few years, but I've said before that I think people's opinions of him would actually be lower if he'd spent more time on the pitch and less on the treatment table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm just happy we've got three very capable CBs for the first time in a pretty fucking long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Enough with the Taylor bashing. People make him out to be a liability because they want Yanga-Mbiwa to play. I too want him ahead of Taylor, but I've seen Taylor labelled all sorts of things today. His performance yesterday wasn't below par as some seem to suggest and even if he's not the calming influence Coloccini is, his application and determination comes in very handy when we're under pressure. And now he's being blamed for our hoofing too? Please. It's amazing how bad he has become since Mapou signed It's just counteracting how good he had become since getting injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Fair enough I can understand his stock has risen since numerous games watching Williamson but some of the reactions since it was thought he might start yesterday have been mental. He has been good for a few seasons now, reading some comments you would think we had brought Boumsong back and played him instead of MYM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He was below par this season before he got injured. Last season was the best he's been for us by some distance. (He was class in the Championship too but you know what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Find myself pronouncing his name like Bigi does in that NUFC TV vid when he signed "Where is Mapou Yanga-Mbwia?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 M´Biwa and Colo looks like the coolest CB pairing we ever had....hope to see them together in most of the games left (before colo leaves). that said.....i have no problem with taylor and i didn´t notice him doing much wrong against villa. I do hope we will sign a new quality CB in the summer, if colo goes. If he stays and we have taylor and M´Biwa also, then i hope we sign a promising young CB and sell Mike W. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Given that he's been out for a while, i didn't actually think Taylor was that bad. There was that instance when he was knocked over fairly easily but on the whole, he was considerably better than Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Nothing wrong with Taylor. He's a good defender. Mapou is simply just better. Top class, and have more aspects to his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Taylor is so injury prone, been out for ages played 90 mins on Tuesday under the cosh for the entire 2nd half, so surely Mbiwa will start o Saturday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I rate Taylor but how could you say he wasn't terrible If Benteke had his scoring boots on he would have had at least 2 or 3 goals.Theres no point saying well he played better than Williamson If that's the case play me then.To be fair he will be rusty for his few games but It's up to the manager to decide If he's ready to play.We can't afford for him to be rusty against Chelsea otherwise we will get a hiding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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