The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Don't think you have to be either a defender or a footballer though. Yes we need a proper stopper, but Mbemba is absolutely fine physically and has adapted to the league really well. Agreed it's not an either thing. But for me, a lot of the best parts of both players games aren't in direct defensive actions. John Terry's a good footballer. Good range of passing, two footed(?) but his best attributes in his prime - organisation & communication, reading the game by anticipating danger, strong, few mistakes & aerial ability etc. The best thing about Chancel/Mapou are on the ball imo. Chancel looks good at intercepting the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Chancel's better. Agree, although I think they're different. Mapou is capable of some great stuff with interceptions and on the ball. Not that he showed it here obvs. I think they're more similar than different. Mapou perhaps quicker, Chancel stronger but both seem to be footballers first and defenders second. Both pretty weak in the air for CB's. Neither physically imposing. Don't think Mbemba struggles with the physicality of the league. His decision making isn't always great but it's considerably better than his predecessors. He struggles in the air imo. He struggled physically with Igahlo and Deeney but otherwise I haven't seen him beasted physically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Not even Comparable. Chancel better in every aspect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 French international though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Not a chance in MYM quicker than Mbemba, like. Absurd statement to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 IMO Mbemba is stronger, faster (but not by much), better at slide tackling, has an underrated range of passing (he generally passes to the man further up the pitch versus the safe guy next to him). Much better in the air. However I always felt MYM had no ceiling if the belief in him was there, he seemed a better reader and intercepter of the ball. I'd put it this way - MYM and Mbemba is far better a partnership, and it's not saying much, than Colo and Mbemba. I'd much rather have MYM & Mbemba for pace, youth, etc. To say Mbemba is not good in the air is stupid - he's been beat by better positioned and experienced CFs in the air or lack of communication around him (maybe language barrier?) where a man has drifted behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Won slightly less than half his aerial duels Mbemba. Find another CB that's supposed good in the air with worse stats. I'll wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Won slightly less than half his aerial duels Mbemba. Find another CB that's supposed good in the air with worse stats. I'll wait. Don't hold your breath, nobody can be bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Apparently mocked for his shiteness by his clubs best CF according to the get frances francs football site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 #bringhimhome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Apparently mocked for his shiteness by his clubs best CF according to the get frances francs football site Who mocked him? Lacazette? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Apparently mocked for his shiteness by his clubs best CF according to the get frances francs football site Who mocked him? Lacazette? Sounds like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 French international though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 He's obviously struggling but he was quality before he came to Newcastle. Quite weird to take pleasure in the failure of a guy we wasted and forced out even though he was better than anyone else on our books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 He's obviously struggling but he was quality before he came to Newcastle. Quite weird to take pleasure in the failure of a guy we wasted and forced out even though he was better than anyone else on our books. TCD is a weird individual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Bit surprised he's having a mare in that shoddy league tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I still can't believe someone was paid money to watch him and conclude he'd make a good partner for Coloccini, like. It's like we have some aversion to buying CBs of adequate size and strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think we thought he was Colo's successor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Of course we did. Like we ever think that far ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Actually I do think they could've played together given time, bearing in mind the other shite options anyway. But I don't wish to have that debate again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Thank fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I still can't believe someone was paid money to watch him and conclude he'd make a good partner for Coloccini, like. It's like we have some aversion to buying CBs of adequate size and strength. an aversion to buying anyone of adequate size and strength really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I was a cheerleader for him even before we signed him, face facts he wasn't good enough at this level. Not just this style as he didn't cut it in Italy and now isn't cutting up rugs in Lyon. Sometimes players fulfill their potential very early then spend years going backwards on their names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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