Vinny Green Balls Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 90%? Really? Particularly since ambition in the cups would be number 1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bit of a pointless exercise lots of this. What is the point of banners of Ashley out of our club etc.......He bloody owns it and will do whatever he wants, it is his club not ours. He will select a manager that suits his needs and future plans. Football has changed, managers do not exist in the old sense, they are now coaches. The people above choose who to buy, who to sell then it is up to the coach to get the best out of those players in terms of results and hopefully increase their value so that they can be sold at a profit. Probably the last manager I remember being given cart blanch to buy and sell was David O'Leary at Leeds. Bought a team to win the champions league and it totally backfired, a disaster they have yet to recover from. The whinging on here about us selling our best players and so on makes us look an absolute joke, did Manu not sell their best player Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, Spurs and Bale? It goes on all the time because it is a business, it is not run to satisfy the whims of deluded supporters and the sooner we realise and accept that the better. Before you start to bleat, I am not new to this forum and I have supported Newcastle for over 60 years. This is very terrible. Its got the lot. The holy trinity: deluded, Leeds and pitiful acceptance of fans not having any say whatsoever. Genius. It needed a Portsmouth for a full house but not a bad effort. B+ Long time lurker and even longer fan but i agree with these points. Why does any fan think they can change MA? And tbh - why would they? Simple question - what do you guys want? I agree ambition in the cups would be my no.1 but aside from that i would rather him as an owner than 90% of the other owners. I'd love ambition but realistically there is a limited amount of people who can spend unlimited money on players these days - Man Utd try to win the title and spend £150mill or so and are still no-where near. Football has lost its soul and we aren't the only fans suffering. PS - my choice for manager - still Steve Mac. Top coach and will get the best out of our youngsters which is the one thing i still enjoy most. Spending 150 million and trying to win the title is now a bad thing? Can't believe it's been this fucking easy for twats like MA to get all the simpleton fans to think that all they can expect of a team is to exist. What the fuck is the point in supporting NUFC if this is the case? What the fuck is the fucking point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 So two of the managers we are looking at have had to take a year out of the game. How are they going to cope with life in a Goldfish bowl? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The thing is, if it was either Galtier, Garde or Tuchel, would Ashley sanction them bringing in their own coaching staff? Can see Woodman, Carver and Stone being involved in any coaching set up to be honest, especially reading .com comments on Woodman at Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 There really isn't a point in supporting us unless you are Rupert Murdoch and the Koch Brothers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Even goldfish struggle in those bowls, not enough oxygen. Most need a bigger tank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Can we get a new poll, cutting out the non-candidates now (de boer etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bit of a pointless exercise lots of this. What is the point of banners of Ashley out of our club etc.......He bloody owns it and will do whatever he wants, it is his club not ours. He will select a manager that suits his needs and future plans. Football has changed, managers do not exist in the old sense, they are now coaches. The people above choose who to buy, who to sell then it is up to the coach to get the best out of those players in terms of results and hopefully increase their value so that they can be sold at a profit. Probably the last manager I remember being given cart blanch to buy and sell was David O'Leary at Leeds. Bought a team to win the champions league and it totally backfired, a disaster they have yet to recover from. The whinging on here about us selling our best players and so on makes us look an absolute joke, did Manu not sell their best player Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, Spurs and Bale? It goes on all the time because it is a business, it is not run to satisfy the whims of deluded supporters and the sooner we realise and accept that the better. Before you start to bleat, I am not new to this forum and I have supported Newcastle for over 60 years. This is very terrible. Its got the lot. The holy trinity: deluded, Leeds and pitiful acceptance of fans not having any say whatsoever. Genius. It needed a Portsmouth for a full house but not a bad effort. B+ Long time lurker and even longer fan but i agree with these points. Why does any fan think they can change MA? And tbh - why would they? Simple question - what do you guys want? I agree ambition in the cups would be my no.1 but aside from that i would rather him as an owner than 90% of the other owners. I'd love ambition but realistically there is a limited amount of people who can spend unlimited money on players these days - Man Utd try to win the title and spend £150mill or so and are still no-where near. Football has lost its soul and we aren't the only fans suffering. PS - my choice for manager - still Steve Mac. Top coach and will get the best out of our youngsters which is the one thing i still enjoy most. Spending 150 million and trying to win the title is now a bad thing? Can't believe it's been this f***ing easy for t***s like MA to get all the simpleton fans to think that all they can expect of a team is to exist. What the f*** is the point in supporting NUFC if this is the case? What the f*** is the f***ing point. Meh - no need to get angry and call me simple. What other team is different? Its how football is these days - at least we have exciting talent like Aarons. There is a point- its supporting a local team. The biggest pride to me has been seeing our players represent their countries and i hope our new manager can help develop local talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 there is every need to get angry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Looks like Ashley did a little extra spending on hasbara trolls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bit of a pointless exercise lots of this. What is the point of banners of Ashley out of our club etc.......He bloody owns it and will do whatever he wants, it is his club not ours. He will select a manager that suits his needs and future plans. Football has changed, managers do not exist in the old sense, they are now coaches. The people above choose who to buy, who to sell then it is up to the coach to get the best out of those players in terms of results and hopefully increase their value so that they can be sold at a profit. Probably the last manager I remember being given cart blanch to buy and sell was David O'Leary at Leeds. Bought a team to win the champions league and it totally backfired, a disaster they have yet to recover from. The whinging on here about us selling our best players and so on makes us look an absolute joke, did Manu not sell their best player Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, Spurs and Bale? It goes on all the time because it is a business, it is not run to satisfy the whims of deluded supporters and the sooner we realise and accept that the better. Before you start to bleat, I am not new to this forum and I have supported Newcastle for over 60 years. This is very terrible. Its got the lot. The holy trinity: deluded, Leeds and pitiful acceptance of fans not having any say whatsoever. Genius. It needed a Portsmouth for a full house but not a bad effort. B+ Long time lurker and even longer fan but i agree with these points. Why does any fan think they can change MA? And tbh - why would they? Simple question - what do you guys want? I agree ambition in the cups would be my no.1 but aside from that i would rather him as an owner than 90% of the other owners. I'd love ambition but realistically there is a limited amount of people who can spend unlimited money on players these days - Man Utd try to win the title and spend £150mill or so and are still no-where near. Football has lost its soul and we aren't the only fans suffering. PS - my choice for manager - still Steve Mac. Top coach and will get the best out of our youngsters which is the one thing i still enjoy most. You should go back to lurking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 That may be the worst first post of all time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The thing is, if it was either Galtier, Garde or Tuchel, would Ashley sanction them bringing in their own coaching staff? Can see Woodman, Carver and Stone being involved in any coaching set up to be honest, especially reading .com comments on Woodman at Leicester. If he has half a brain when watching us for last few years, he would be happy to rid them in a shot. Of course money talks, but we desperately need a coaching clear out. Harsh, but true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I don't think fat Mike will get rid of any of the existing staff. I do think he will allow a new head coach to bring in a couple of their own staff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You'd have to be mad to genuinely want to come and work for this shower. No say in transfers Low wage (in relation to prem manager wages) Remit.......not to win things I mean honestly ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bit of a pointless exercise lots of this. What is the point of banners of Ashley out of our club etc.......He bloody owns it and will do whatever he wants, it is his club not ours. He will select a manager that suits his needs and future plans. Football has changed, managers do not exist in the old sense, they are now coaches. The people above choose who to buy, who to sell then it is up to the coach to get the best out of those players in terms of results and hopefully increase their value so that they can be sold at a profit. Probably the last manager I remember being given cart blanch to buy and sell was David O'Leary at Leeds. Bought a team to win the champions league and it totally backfired, a disaster they have yet to recover from. The whinging on here about us selling our best players and so on makes us look an absolute joke, did Manu not sell their best player Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, Spurs and Bale? It goes on all the time because it is a business, it is not run to satisfy the whims of deluded supporters and the sooner we realise and accept that the better. Before you start to bleat, I am not new to this forum and I have supported Newcastle for over 60 years. This is very terrible. Its got the lot. The holy trinity: deluded, Leeds and pitiful acceptance of fans not having any say whatsoever. Genius. It needed a Portsmouth for a full house but not a bad effort. B+ Long time lurker and even longer fan but i agree with these points. Why does any fan think they can change MA? And tbh - why would they? Simple question - what do you guys want? I agree ambition in the cups would be my no.1 but aside from that i would rather him as an owner than 90% of the other owners. I'd love ambition but realistically there is a limited amount of people who can spend unlimited money on players these days - Man Utd try to win the title and spend £150mill or so and are still no-where near. Football has lost its soul and we aren't the only fans suffering. PS - my choice for manager - still Steve Mac. Top coach and will get the best out of our youngsters which is the one thing i still enjoy most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 better than 90% of the owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bit of a pointless exercise lots of this. What is the point of banners of Ashley out of our club etc.......He bloody owns it and will do whatever he wants, it is his club not ours. He will select a manager that suits his needs and future plans. Football has changed, managers do not exist in the old sense, they are now coaches. The people above choose who to buy, who to sell then it is up to the coach to get the best out of those players in terms of results and hopefully increase their value so that they can be sold at a profit. Probably the last manager I remember being given cart blanch to buy and sell was David O'Leary at Leeds. Bought a team to win the champions league and it totally backfired, a disaster they have yet to recover from. The whinging on here about us selling our best players and so on makes us look an absolute joke, did Manu not sell their best player Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, Spurs and Bale? It goes on all the time because it is a business, it is not run to satisfy the whims of deluded supporters and the sooner we realise and accept that the better. Before you start to bleat, I am not new to this forum and I have supported Newcastle for over 60 years. This is very terrible. Its got the lot. The holy trinity: deluded, Leeds and pitiful acceptance of fans not having any say whatsoever. Genius. It needed a Portsmouth for a full house but not a bad effort. B+ Long time lurker and even longer fan but i agree with these points. Why does any fan think they can change MA? And tbh - why would they? Simple question - what do you guys want? I agree ambition in the cups would be my no.1 but aside from that i would rather him as an owner than 90% of the other owners. I'd love ambition but realistically there is a limited amount of people who can spend unlimited money on players these days - Man Utd try to win the title and spend £150mill or so and are still no-where near. Football has lost its soul and we aren't the only fans suffering. PS - my choice for manager - still Steve Mac. Top coach and will get the best out of our youngsters which is the one thing i still enjoy most. You should go back to lurking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bit of a pointless exercise lots of this. What is the point of banners of Ashley out of our club etc.......He bloody owns it and will do whatever he wants, it is his club not ours. He will select a manager that suits his needs and future plans. Football has changed, managers do not exist in the old sense, they are now coaches. The people above choose who to buy, who to sell then it is up to the coach to get the best out of those players in terms of results and hopefully increase their value so that they can be sold at a profit. Probably the last manager I remember being given cart blanch to buy and sell was David O'Leary at Leeds. Bought a team to win the champions league and it totally backfired, a disaster they have yet to recover from. The whinging on here about us selling our best players and so on makes us look an absolute joke, did Manu not sell their best player Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, Spurs and Bale? It goes on all the time because it is a business, it is not run to satisfy the whims of deluded supporters and the sooner we realise and accept that the better. Before you start to bleat, I am not new to this forum and I have supported Newcastle for over 60 years. This is very terrible. Its got the lot. The holy trinity: deluded, Leeds and pitiful acceptance of fans not having any say whatsoever. Genius. It needed a Portsmouth for a full house but not a bad effort. B+ Long time lurker and even longer fan but i agree with these points. Why does any fan think they can change MA? And tbh - why would they? Simple question - what do you guys want? I agree ambition in the cups would be my no.1 but aside from that i would rather him as an owner than 90% of the other owners. I'd love ambition but realistically there is a limited amount of people who can spend unlimited money on players these days - Man Utd try to win the title and spend £150mill or so and are still no-where near. Football has lost its soul and we aren't the only fans suffering. PS - my choice for manager - still Steve Mac. Top coach and will get the best out of our youngsters which is the one thing i still enjoy most. really the forum equivalent of suicide by cop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 how on earth is he keeping that lamp attached to his hair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bit of a pointless exercise lots of this. What is the point of banners of Ashley out of our club etc.......He bloody owns it and will do whatever he wants, it is his club not ours. He will select a manager that suits his needs and future plans. Football has changed, managers do not exist in the old sense, they are now coaches. The people above choose who to buy, who to sell then it is up to the coach to get the best out of those players in terms of results and hopefully increase their value so that they can be sold at a profit. Probably the last manager I remember being given cart blanch to buy and sell was David O'Leary at Leeds. Bought a team to win the champions league and it totally backfired, a disaster they have yet to recover from. The whinging on here about us selling our best players and so on makes us look an absolute joke, did Manu not sell their best player Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, Spurs and Bale? It goes on all the time because it is a business, it is not run to satisfy the whims of deluded supporters and the sooner we realise and accept that the better. Before you start to bleat, I am not new to this forum and I have supported Newcastle for over 60 years. This is very terrible. Its got the lot. The holy trinity: deluded, Leeds and pitiful acceptance of fans not having any say whatsoever. Genius. It needed a Portsmouth for a full house but not a bad effort. B+ Long time lurker and even longer fan but i agree with these points. Why does any fan think they can change MA? And tbh - why would they? Simple question - what do you guys want? I agree ambition in the cups would be my no.1 but aside from that i would rather him as an owner than 90% of the other owners. I'd love ambition but realistically there is a limited amount of people who can spend unlimited money on players these days - Man Utd try to win the title and spend £150mill or so and are still no-where near. Football has lost its soul and we aren't the only fans suffering. PS - my choice for manager - still Steve Mac. Top coach and will get the best out of our youngsters which is the one thing i still enjoy most. You should go back to lurking. Fair enough. Just wanted to give a different opinion from an equally passionate fan if thats not what a discussion is about then i apologise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 His first post: "I would so much rather be in our position than Liverpools or Arsenals." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 If we get a good manager. I think people would be genuinely surprised at how good we could still do, even with MAs policy. Really hope we can somehow pull it off. The good manager that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We should be thankful that that our ambitions stretch to surviving relegation each year and exiting cups as quickly as possible, signing players with a view to flogging them as soon as we can turn a profit and existing purely as a vehicle to advertise far Mike's tat emporium. Thanks for the great work Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 His first post: "I would so much rather be in our position than Liverpools or Arsenals." Have you seen our balance sheet? I cream my jeans just thinking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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