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Lamela looked quite poor when he first joined Spurs, and he has improved significantly I think, and is beginning to come along for them.

 

Thauvin will be fine. Could have done without being thrown straight into the team IMO. He'll be good once he settles a bit. especially if Perez and Mitrovic are on the pitch with him.

Lamela played like 3 league games in his first season.

 

I'm not judging his long-term ability as i've only seen a few games. All I know is that he's been genuinely poor in those few games. And his reputation in France isn't comforting.

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If only he'd beat a man within 2 minutes of coming on in his first appearance.

Was that the time said man  caught up with him immediately after then dispossessed him?

 

 

 

Err no..  It was against Man Utd surely, when he beat Shaw who then had to pull him down as he went past him.

 

Pull him down? I recall Shaw winning the ball fairly. He's flopped an enormous amount of take-ons in few games is my undeniable. Best thing is that he's attempted them.

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He had a good break out season, but has done nothing since. You could say he had a 6 month purple patch. I'm not one to write players off, but I think we massively overpaid for this guy.

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Along similar lines, just seen the following on newsnow ...

 

"One of the reasons we suffered in possession terms against Bournemouth last week was the failure of Bojan, Marko Arnautovic and Xherdan Shaqiri to work as a unit off the ball.

 

When Jon Walters was closing down their centre halves, we didn't see those three working to fill gaps and block channels to try and funnel the play where we wanted.

 

I'd make a big change for the game at Villa.

 

Whether he's fit or not, I'd take Shaqiri out of the team because I just don't think he's performing.

 

I don't care how much we paid for him, you can't have too many players failing to pull their weight off the ball, particularly away from home.

 

I would shift Walters wide right in his place and bring Peter Crouch into attack.

 

I just feel you need that longer ball outlet Crouch gives you, while his ability to hold up the play and bring others into the game gives you another option going forward."

 

Got to give these guys time man. Especially when the alternative is Walters out wide and Crouch upfront! My goodness.

 

 

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Listened to Football Weekly podcast. Someone made a comment about Marseille starting to look like they can cope after losing many players. Dude mentioned Thauvin last then laughed as if he wasn't a miss at all.

 

:(

 

Yep, it's sounding and has looked like we have spunked loads of money on a right duffer.

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

 

 

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

He hasn't started well though. ???

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It's worrying that we've chased him for years aswell. It's a bit like Mark chasing Sophie in Peep Show.

 

Superb analogy that actually, the chase goes on for years before the dawning realisation that it was a bit of a waste of effort. :lol:

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

If he was getting kicked about and was suffering because of that similar to Cabella, I could understand. But he gives the ball away under very little pressure which is a worry. It's not like he's being fouled persistently over 90 mins, he just looks too dopey to deal with the pace of the game. He does have talent though, just needs to get in gear a lot quicker.

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

So you are telling us he is going to get worse? Christ we are f***ed.

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

If he was getting kicked about and was suffering because of that similar to Cabella, I could understand. But he gives the ball away under very little pressure which is a worry. It's not like he's being fouled persistently over 90 mins, he just looks too dopey to deal with the pace of the game. He does have talent though, just needs to get in gear a lot quicker.

Aye his problem isn't his physicality, it's his dribbling and passing

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

If he was getting kicked about and was suffering because of that similar to Cabella, I could understand. But he gives the ball away under very little pressure which is a worry. It's not like he's being fouled persistently over 90 mins, he just looks too dopey to deal with the pace of the game. He does have talent though, just needs to get in gear a lot quicker.

Aye his problem isn't his physicality, it's his dribbling and passing

 

Dude was talking about your man Sissoko though right. Right?

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

If he was getting kicked about and was suffering because of that similar to Cabella, I could understand. But he gives the ball away under very little pressure which is a worry. It's not like he's being fouled persistently over 90 mins, he just looks too dopey to deal with the pace of the game. He does have talent though, just needs to get in gear a lot quicker.

Aye his problem isn't his physicality, it's his dribbling and passing

 

Dude was talking about your man Sissoko though right. Right?

Just assumed it was Thauvin, not sure?

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It's really common for players of his type to start off well in the Premier League and then tail off for a while.

Firstly the PL is the most physically demanding league in the world and it takes attacking players, in particular, time to adjust to the speed, intensity and physical rigours. They often start off well, get knackered and then take time to get themselves properly up to speed. It's a very well trodden path.

 

Add to that the fact that every club has an analytical department designed to learn the ins and outs of every player at every other club - which is his preferred foot, what tricks/skills does he use, does he come inside or knock it down the line, how does he react to rough treatment. Within 2-3 weeks of joining the league a player who perhaps shone in his first couple of games has been analysed and a game plan has been created to stop him.

 

This is nothing new and it's far too early to write Thauvin off. If he has enough talent, character and motivation he'll adapt and bounce back. Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

If he was getting kicked about and was suffering because of that similar to Cabella, I could understand. But he gives the ball away under very little pressure which is a worry. It's not like he's being fouled persistently over 90 mins, he just looks too dopey to deal with the pace of the game. He does have talent though, just needs to get in gear a lot quicker.

Aye his problem isn't his physicality, it's his dribbling and passing

 

Dude was talking about your man Sissoko though right. Right?

Just assumed it was Thauvin, not sure?

Of course it was Thauvin [emoji38]

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