Wullie Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Why would you decide not to jump? In case they try and pre-empt it and go under the jumping wall I suppose, which is incredibly rare. Not sure if Bale's ever done that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Why would you decide not to jump? I assume they think the free kick is too close to the goal to get over the wall and down, so they fear the player hitting it hard and low, in the hope the wall jump over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Why would you decide not to jump? Have you seen free-kicks that go under the wall when the wall jumps? Some keepers prefer the wall to be static an'all so as not to impair their view any further Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 You've all obviously never played football before. The wall decide before the kick is taken if they're going to jump or not, if anyone's at fault it's jonas cos he did exactly the opposite to the rest. You either all jump, or none jump. We know they talked about it so they'd decided not to jump. Perch did nowt wrong Sorry to interrupt, but at what level have you played football? When you were 12? Sunday League? Because that's one the biggest bullshits I've heard. Alliance Prem, University BUPA League, Sheffield local leagues, was at NUFC til I was 14, was the same at every level I've played. The wall decides if it's jumping or not, you don't all make an individual decision Well thank you for proving my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 You've all obviously never played football before. The wall decide before the kick is taken if they're going to jump or not, if anyone's at fault it's jonas cos he did exactly the opposite to the rest. You either all jump, or none jump. We know they talked about it so they'd decided not to jump. Perch did nowt wrong That's a crock imo. You might decide beforehand, but if the ball is then clearly going over the wall you jump. As if tactics need to come into what is clearly common sense. You have a reaction time of less than half a second How does a goalkeeper ever save a shot inside the area then? Fair point, I guess it's more a point of setting yourself not to do something and then having to change that mindset in a split-second. Get your point though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I can't even remember one goal from a free kick hit under a jumping wall TBH. Seem mental if that's the reason to not jump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 You've all obviously never played football before. The wall decide before the kick is taken if they're going to jump or not, if anyone's at fault it's jonas cos he did exactly the opposite to the rest. You either all jump, or none jump. We know they talked about it so they'd decided not to jump. Perch did nowt wrong Sorry to interrupt, but at what level have you played football? When you were 12? Sunday League? Because that's one the biggest bullshits I've heard. Alliance Prem, University BUPA League, Sheffield local leagues, was at NUFC til I was 14, was the same at every level I've played. The wall decides if it's jumping or not, you don't all make an individual decision In football, you deal or try to deal with whatever is coming your way especially as an individual. In Perch's case a ball aimed towards his head - that had he jumped - would not have ended up in the back of Krul's goal. Just because the wall was told to not jump doesn't mean someone in it shouldn't react or moreover cannot react. That's just stupid and if that's how you were coached/reacted to situations no wonder you never made it. Anyway, both goals were stupid give-aways as have most of the ones we have conceded this season been. We are an appalling side in defence and indeed in attack hence why where we are in the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 perch changing his mind, or sticking to plan A 'no jump' shouldnt come into it iMO. Clearing balls like this so close to you is instinctive. Cant believe many pro footballers, moreso at this level , havent got that natural instinct to react to a ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I can't even remember one goal from a free kick hit under a jumping wall TBH. Seem mental if that's the reason to not jump. Ronaldo did it to us once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I can't even remember one goal from a free kick hit under a jumping wall TBH. Seem mental if that's the reason to not jump. I've seen it once. Alves v Liverpool Uefa cup final, that's it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I can't even remember one goal from a free kick hit under a jumping wall TBH. Seem mental if that's the reason to not jump. Ronaldinho in the Champions League a few years back. EDIT: EDIT: Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 perch changing his mind, or sticking to plan A 'no jump' shouldnt come into it iMO. Clearing balls like this so close to you is instinctive. Cant believe many pro footballers, moreso at this level , havent got that natural instinct to react to a ball. If it was Taylor in there and not Perch, that ball would never have ended up in the back of the net simple as that. Perch should have had the riot act read to him after the game by his team-mates and manager. I couldn't believe watching it, it wasn't even a good spot by Bale, he just hit it right but Perch allowed it to whiz straight past him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 perch changing his mind, or sticking to plan A 'no jump' shouldnt come into it iMO. Clearing balls like this so close to you is instinctive. Cant believe many pro footballers, moreso at this level , havent got that natural instinct to react to a ball. If it was Taylor in there and not Perch, that ball would never have ended up in the back of the net simple as that. Perch should have had the riot act read to him after the game by his team-mates and manager. I couldn't believe watching it, it wasn't even a good spot by Bale, he just hit it right but Perch allowed it to whiz straight past him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Messi did the under the wall free-kick for Argentina last year, learned it from Ronaldinho who did it a few times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 perch changing his mind, or sticking to plan A 'no jump' shouldnt come into it iMO. Clearing balls like this so close to you is instinctive. Cant believe many pro footballers, moreso at this level , havent got that natural instinct to react to a ball. If it was Taylor in there and not Perch, that ball would never have ended up in the back of the net simple as that. Perch should have had the riot act read to him after the game by his team-mates and manager. I couldn't believe watching it, it wasn't even a good spot by Bale, he just hit it right but Perch allowed it to whiz straight past him. Taylor would have found a way to get his bollocks on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Messi did the under the wall free-kick for Argentina last year, learned it from Ronaldinho who did it a few times. Bale's better than both of them tbf so it's understandable we were concerned about the possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 perch changing his mind, or sticking to plan A 'no jump' shouldnt come into it iMO. Clearing balls like this so close to you is instinctive. Cant believe many pro footballers, moreso at this level , havent got that natural instinct to react to a ball. If it was Taylor in there and not Perch, that ball would never have ended up in the back of the net simple as that. Perch should have had the riot act read to him after the game by his team-mates and manager. I couldn't believe watching it, it wasn't even a good spot by Bale, he just hit it right but Perch allowed it to whiz straight past him. Taylor would have found a way to get his bollocks on it that would have been worth seeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Funny how people said that Krul's positioning was at fault when Baines, from almost exactly the same position as Bale, leathered it into the top left hand corner at SJP, whilst Bale put it into the bottom right. How can a goalkeeper possibly get his positioning "right" in that scenario? It's not physically possible to stand in one particular position which makes it easy to save any free kick no matter where it's placed or how hard it's hit. That's why there's a wall there, to make one side much more difficult to put it in with the goalkeeper covering the other. Our wall could have stopped it and failed - everyone laughed at Nasri against Man Utd when he didn't simply move his foot to stop RvP's free kick, Perch was exactly the same. Bale's free kick needed to be something special to get up and down from that position - it wasn't but still did. I can't believe I'm having to explain this tbh. The free kick yesterday was hardly lathered (like Baines') it bounced just inside the six yard box and went in halfway up the post, if he get's beaten top corner fine, nowt you can do with them. He had 25 yards to react and he "nearly" got there, stands one foot to his left and he keeps it out, as he is paid to do (but hasn't done much of over this season tbh). Perch get's the shit becasue he's James Perch, who was also better than Tiote (when he came on) yesterday. It's laughable, the "shit" players get all the shit the "sexy" players get a free pass, objectivity leaves the room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 If Colo had just hoofed Bale in the face a la Ba like I said the other day, at the beginning of the match we would have won that comfortably. I blame Colo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I can't even remember one goal from a free kick hit under a jumping wall TBH. Seem mental if that's the reason to not jump. In fairness - Shearer used to do it quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Bale's better than both of them tbf so it's understandable we were concerned about the possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Yes I'm blaming Perch because he's Perch, not because the ball went half an inch over his head and he stood still. If it had gone over Cabaye's, I would have also blamed Perch. Get a grip of yourself you sad act. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I can't even remember one goal from a free kick hit under a jumping wall TBH. Seem mental if that's the reason to not jump. In fairness - Shearer used to do it quite a bit. i was going to post shearer but I couldnt remember when, but feel sure he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I can't even remember one goal from a free kick hit under a jumping wall TBH. Seem mental if that's the reason to not jump. In fairness - Shearer used to do it quite a bit. i was going to post shearer but I couldnt remember when, but feel sure he did. There was a stage where he seemed to perfect it. Solano used to roll the ball to him and he just smashed it low through/under the wall. I have probably imagined how many times he did it - but I seem to remember a few. One against the mackems I think? Seem to remember one against someone like Bolton as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Perch better than Tiote yesterday :lol: Tiote came on and instantly looked 10x the player, it's ridiculous he didn't start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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