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If he was to get sacked when do people think the cut off point would be? You'd think if he was getting sacked it would be in the next 2 weeks.

 

I imagine if we're at sometime around June... 10th? and he's still here... he'll be here next year.

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If he hasn't been sacked a week after the Arsenal game, he's here to stay.

 

I'd give it another week on top of that. I'm sure they could arrange a meeting for a week or so after the season is over to take time to evaluate everything, and then you'd hear at some point after that.

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I genuinely can't believe anyone would rather keep Pardew than bring in Jol. He's a better manager.

 

Debatable.

 

If you want a manager who underachieves and plays boring, direct football we should just stick with the one we've got and save the compensation.

Jol hasn't got a history of underachieving or boring football though, you're peddling this purely because Fulham have had a bad season and were 2nd behind us in some daft stat this year :lol:

 

Jol has succeeded everywhere he's been with the exception of Ajax where he failed to win the league. He's had a poor year, as has Pardew, but he has a lot more to fall back on.

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the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke

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Would anyone want to work under Llambias who wasn't a patsy? Can they find a better patsy?  Could Mike get involved again and dump both of the clowns? 

“With Chris, he couldn’t cope with where we are mentally. We are aggressive. You need to be aggressive. I don’t want a manager below me who can’t argue. You guys don’t understand how f****** horrible we can be.”

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The silver lining of this is that they will back him in the summer window. He's been moaning for ages on transfers etc, so if they're planning to let him stay then surely they won't want to hear the same excuses again next year.

 

I still don't think it's a given that he'll be here. I reckon we'll have put out some feelers for managers and not liked what we got back, so we've assured Pardew. But let's say Rafa drops his demands for money for himself and transfers, Ashley isn't the type of guy that will pass up an opportunity like that because he's given his word to a subordinate.

 

Why will they back him now, though?  The complaint was that they didn't strengthen when it was known we had european football coming up.  Now that we don't [have the EL) - and don't forget we brought forward summer signings in the Jan window - surely there is no need to strengthen?  That was me playing devil's advocate btw.

 

I reckon we will get a £10m - £15m striker in mesel, like. 

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Can't help feel that this news means that we may as well write next season off too. Pardew gets sacked mid season and the new manager sees out the rest of the season waiting to start afresh the year after.  :sad:

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the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke

 

I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"?

 

I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results.

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Only way I could tolerate this season especially after the Liverpool hammering was thinking surely he will just be sacked as soon as we're safe. I'm going to find it so hard to enjoy following Newcastle with him in charge. I wish I could be like certain others and just lap up all his excuses but I can't.

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Jol has a far worse squad than Pardew and has a far better managerial history than him. Not that I actually want Jol but it's a no brainer if it comes down to the 2 of them.

 

:thup:

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I notice he doesn't mention the Europa League. Obviously he would rather beat Arsenal than not but it's 100% his opinion that he doesn't want to be in Europe because having to raise his managerial game completely exposes him as the utter fraud he is.

 

He did talk a bit about that in The Journal:

 

“It was my first campaign in Europe and I think I made errors – especially at the start, maybe chopping the team too much.

 

“We got injuries in that competition and we’ll be better for that if we get in there in a couple of years time.

 

Read more: Journal Live http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/05/13/61634-33320935/?#ixzz2TBgmRpna

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7 MORE YEARS!

 

f*** OFF YOU COCKNEY MAFIA!

 

Only hope is for the players to turn on the fraud.

 

Thought they already had?

 

Well exactly.

 

That's what makes this even worse. If Pardew stays, half the team will be off in the summer. Our only hopes of hanging onto Cabaye, Coloccini and Ben Arfa (amongst others) are if this joker is given the boot and replaced with someone competent.

 

Otherwise next season we'll have Pardew making excuses - "It's a new team, they need time to adjust" as we plummet back down the league again. Conveniently forgetting to mention that it's a new team because he drove the old one away with his s*** tactics and dire approach to football.

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the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke

 

I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"?

 

I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results.

My main issue through out this anti Pardew thing is less criticizing Pardew or even wanting him out, everyones entitled to their opinion etc etc. But rather how absolutely everything wrong is being put at his door and the players get off scot-free criticism wise. Obviously he's made mistakes but why aren't they taking their share of the blame for some gutless performances? And if you say its just down to Pardews negative tactics, don't they have minds of their own?

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the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke

 

I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"?

 

I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results.

 

Stop making sense, man. It's as simplistic as jdckelly says.

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the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke

 

I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"?

 

I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results.

My main issue through out this anti Pardew thing is less criticizing Pardew or even wanting him out, everyones entitled to their opinion etc etc. But rather how absolutely everything wrong is being put at his door and the players get off scot-free criticism wise. Obviously he's made mistakes but why aren't they taking their share of the blame for some gutless performances? And if you say its just down to Pardews negative tactics, don't they have minds of their own?

 

I had a similar discussion with the wife last night after her new boss told her to adopt a fairly retarded approach where she works. She was furious about it.

 

I told her to do what he says. If you do what the boss says and it doesn't work, it's his fault. If you do things your way and they don't work, you'll get bollocked.

 

As an employee, which players are, that's the only way to behave and survive in a workplace - Do what the boss says. That way it's his fault when it goes tits up.

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the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke

 

I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"?

 

I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results.

My main issue through out this anti Pardew thing is less criticizing Pardew or even wanting him out, everyones entitled to their opinion etc etc. But rather how absolutely everything wrong is being put at his door and the players get off scot-free criticism wise. Obviously he's made mistakes but why aren't they taking their share of the blame for some gutless performances? And if you say its just down to Pardews negative tactics, don't they have minds of their own?

 

So, for example, if Pardew is unable to coach the defence into a unit, who all know where the others are, when to push out, when to fill in etc... what, they should do it in their spare time down the park? If they don't practice passing in triangles in training you expect them to do it in their back garden, against their son and the dog.

 

Can't believe what I'm reading. Minds of their own. :lol: They're up against the tactics of Sir Alex Ferguson and they should all be doing their own thing, on the hop. Reminds me of that game we used to play, 'knockout' where everyone's trying to score in the same end, twenty people running after the same ball and trying to run past everyone or shoot from anywhere.

 

If one player underforms while everyone else is playing, fair enough. An entire squad of thirty-odd players?! What's your solution then? Sell them all presumably?

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the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke

 

I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"?

 

I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results.

My main issue through out this anti Pardew thing is less criticizing Pardew or even wanting him out, everyones entitled to their opinion etc etc. But rather how absolutely everything wrong is being put at his door and the players get off scot-free criticism wise. Obviously he's made mistakes but why aren't they taking their share of the blame for some gutless performances? And if you say its just down to Pardews negative tactics, don't they have minds of their own?

 

I had a similar discussion with the wife last night after her new boss told her to adopt a fairly retarded approach where she works. She was furious about it.

 

I told her to do what he says. If you do what the boss says and it doesn't work, it's his fault. If you do things your way and they don't work, you'll get bollocked.

 

As an employee, which players are, that's the only way to behave and survive in a workplace - Do what the boss says. That way it's his fault when it goes tits up.

 

Good advice. And I'm sure Pardew is telling the players to miss the majority of chances created and the officials to chalk off the rest even when they're perfectly good.

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