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  On 27/09/2013 at 09:23, Hanskissedhispantz said:

The notion that you have to be a "Laudrop bum boy" to be slightly disturbed by any Newcastle fan not seeing Pardew binned for Laudrop as an exciting switch, man  :lol:

 

I would have been equally disgusted in the summer by anyone if they were slightly weary of sacking Shola Ameobi off for Eric Lamela.

 

I do not doubt he could get a more attractive loooking brand of football out of our current squad.

 

Since Brondby he's never stuck a job for more than 14 months. He got £30m to spend at Swansea this year and recouped nowt.

 

There is no chance in hell that he and Ashley could form a working relationship.

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  On 27/09/2013 at 09:31, Happy Face said:

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The criteria you seem to hold as to whom you'd like appointed, the ability to create a good football team doesn't appear to be a priority. You might be able to understand that as this just a forum and so everything wished for here is just fantasy, other posters may find that an anethema.

 

That's it like.

 

Like fantasising that the removal of Shimon Peres from power is likely to solve the middle east crisis.

 

You have to start somewhere, HF :lol:

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You have no idea whether or not he and Ashley could make a working relationship, non at all.

 

You've looked at a few numbers and just went "he quit his last 2 jobs after about a year, and he spent 30m at Swansea, so he could never work with Ashley, never."

 

Even if he did just stay a year with minimal spend there's a far better chance I'd enjoy that year more than I would under Pardew, which is something atleast. He does have form of making cup finals in these brief stints.

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  On 27/09/2013 at 09:45, Ian W said:

Laudrup was making noises recently about lack of signings wasn't he? Wasn't there even a rumour he was going to walk out?

 

Aye wasn't happy at his transfer budget and basically gave them an ultimatum for more money, they obviously gave in to his demands, would Ashley have done the same?

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  On 27/09/2013 at 09:40, Hanskissedhispantz said:

You have no idea whether or not he and Ashley could make a working relationship, non at all.

 

You've looked at a few numbers and just went "he quit his last 2 jobs after about a year, and he spent 30m at Swansea, so he could never work with Ashley, never."

 

Even if he did just stay a year with minimal spend there's a far better chance I'd enjoy that year more than I would under Pardew, which is something atleast. He does have form of making cup finals in these brief stints.

 

That's a pretty short term view. 

 

I'd prefer Pardew to continue learning at the moment than risk upheaval like we saw in 08/09.

 

I base my view of what sort of working relationship they might have on what I perceive to be the footballing outlook of the people Ashley brings in compared to the footballing outlook of the people he's shown himself incapable of getting on with.

 

Time and again he has shown that simple minded purveyors of no-nonsense football like Wise, Kinnear and Pardew are people that he gets on with.  Anyone with a more romantic view of the beautiful game or anyone that builds a rapport with fans such as Keegan, Hughton or Shearer get moved aside quite quickly.

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  On 27/09/2013 at 09:55, Happy Face said:

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You have no idea whether or not he and Ashley could make a working relationship, non at all.

 

You've looked at a few numbers and just went "he quit his last 2 jobs after about a year, and he spent 30m at Swansea, so he could never work with Ashley, never."

 

Even if he did just stay a year with minimal spend there's a far better chance I'd enjoy that year more than I would under Pardew, which is something atleast. He does have form of making cup finals in these brief stints.

 

That's a pretty short term view. 

 

I'd prefer Pardew to continue learning at the moment than risk upheaval like we saw in 08/09.

 

I base my view of what sort of working relationship they might have on what I perceive to be the footballing outlook of the people Ashley brings in compared to the footballing outlook of the people he's shown himself incapable of getting on with.

 

Time and again he has shown that simple minded purveyors of no-nonsense football like Wise, Kinnear and Pardew are people that he gets on with.  Anyone with a more romantic view of the beautiful game or anyone that builds a rapport with fans such as Keegan, Hughton or Shearer get moved aside quite quickly.

 

How much 'learning' did Pardew do at WHU, Charlton and Southampton..?

Not enough, judging by those clubs' Chairmen's decision to get rid of him....the man is over 50 for heaven's sake....

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  On 27/09/2013 at 11:42, Happy Face said:

If anyone is making way I'd rather drop Cabaye than Anita.

 

Pardew has egos to cater to though, unfortunately.

 

No he doesn't, his job is to put out the best team on the day, not polish the egos of players who were happy to jump ship a month ago.

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  On 27/09/2013 at 13:26, TRon said:

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If anyone is making way I'd rather drop Cabaye than Anita.

 

Pardew has egos to cater to though, unfortunately.

 

No he doesn't, his job is to put out the best team on the day, not polish the egos of players who were happy to jump ship a month ago.

 

I think he meant that HE has to cater to egos.. cause he's Pardew.. :)

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This should be in here, even if it doesn't contain any graphs.

 

http://blog.paddypower.com/2013/09/27/neville-southall-newcastle-are-a-great-club-but-pardew-is-an-excuse-maker/?AFF_ID=16562

 

Neville Southall: Newcastle are a great club, but Pardew is an excuse-maker

 

Neville Southall was never afraid to speak his mind as a player and his column for the Paddy Power Blog is no different. This week he looks at Newcastle and Everton’s good start to the season

 

I always loved playing Newcastle. They’re the best fans I’ve ever seen in my life. They turn up whether the team is top of the league or bottom of the league.

 

It was always a game I looked forward to because their fans were brilliant. To make it at Newcastle, you need a bit of class and you need to graft because that’s what the Geordies appreciate. You need to work for their respect. The team have always played the right way. They’ve had some brilliant players and managers, Kevin Keegan, Alan Shearer, Bobby Robson – even if he couldn’t get your name right, he was brilliant – one of the best in the history of British football.

 

Now they’ve got a good squad, but I have doubts about the manager. Alan Pardew makes excuse after excuse when they lose. Even before they played Manchester City he was blaming Yohann Cabaye because he was supposedly on the verge of joining Arsenal. Obviously playing City away from home isn’t easy, but going into the game he seemed to have made his mind up that they were going to lose.

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Southall picking up on the point many made here, that Pardew seemed to go into the Man City game expecting a defeat before the game had even kicked off. That was what was more annoying than the defeat itself.

 

In any case I'm quite intrigued by this talk that Di Matteo isn't keen on the Sunderland job because he's got his eyes on Pardew's job. Maybe he's looked at the fixtures and reckons Pards might be struggling in a few weeks time. Pardew really needs a result against Everton because there's some tough games coming up.

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  On 27/09/2013 at 15:16, TRon said:

In any case I'm quite intrigued by this talk that Di Matteo isn't keen on the Sunderland job because he's got his eyes on Pardew's job. Maybe he's looked at the fixtures and reckons Pards might be struggling in a few weeks time. Pardew really needs a result against Everton because there's some tough games coming up.

 

They reckon he's talking to Galatasarry

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  On 27/09/2013 at 16:07, Incognito said:

What would Neville Southall know ? [/ Pards' sock cookers/]

 

I'm sure an excuse was once used that people hadn't played at a high enough level to judge him.  Maybe winning the European Cup qualifies Southall enough to comment, maybe not.

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