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Happy Face

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some stuff and a graph

 

That's all well and good, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the argument I was having with Haris Vuckic so I'm not sure why you quoted what you did.

 

Btw the difference in the amount of spend used to describe

the amount separating 12 places from Villa (7th) to Palace (20th)
AS   just £72m.

 

and

 

The amount separating the one place from Villa (7th) to Arsenal (6th) is £89m.
AS Clearly the top 6 is a cut above EVERYONE else in the league and the rest are all very much in similar boats.

 

Is "just" 17 million. Seems like you are putting some (unjustified) spin on your argument here, as usual.

 

eh?

 

 

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AyeDubbleYoo

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Calm Down Petal  :lol:

 

You get what you pay for pretty much - fair enough there might be the odd anomaly - but generally the rule of thumb is correct.

 

There's generally a reason why a player who costs £0.5m costs that much - and if you think our squad is really that valuable - apart from the obvious clues on the pitch - just take a look at the bench.

 

and before you start talking utter rubbish about what players are ''worth'' against what they cost - think about it for a second.

 

There's a reason they are still playing for one of the least ambitious teams in the country.

 

(I mean this season - our best player has been a loanee ffs, that's mackemesque!)

 

Terrible post, you've lamely skirted around all the issues I raised with your "point"

 

Here look : http://www.transferleague.co.uk/ on the front page there is a table of premier league squads valued by transfer fees paid.

 

Funnily: Were 8th.

 

So even by your own conditions you are still wrong.

 

In that table the amount separating 12 places from Villa (7th) to Palace (20th) is just £72m.

 

The amount separating the one place from Villa (7th) to Arsenal (6th) is £89m.

 

Clearly the top 6 is a cut above EVERYONE else in the league and the rest are all very much in similar boats.

 

http://i42.tinypic.com/w811yx.jpg

 

There's a valid argument that 7th to 12th should form a group in the middle of the table distinct from the bottom 8, and Newcastle should be in that group.

 

I think that illustrates quite well how hard it is to break the top.

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Happy Face

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Try again. It was quite difficult to format, tbf.

 

"Just" refers to the fact that £72m separates 12 places.  An average of "just" £6m per place.

 

That's much smaller than the £89m that separates Arsenal from the next most expensive squad which is Villa.

 

 

 

 

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Calm Down Petal  :lol:

 

You get what you pay for pretty much - fair enough there might be the odd anomaly - but generally the rule of thumb is correct.

 

There's generally a reason why a player who costs £0.5m costs that much - and if you think our squad is really that valuable - apart from the obvious clues on the pitch - just take a look at the bench.

 

and before you start talking utter rubbish about what players are ''worth'' against what they cost - think about it for a second.

 

There's a reason they are still playing for one of the least ambitious teams in the country.

 

(I mean this season - our best player has been a loanee ffs, that's mackemesque!)

 

Terrible post, you've lamely skirted around all the issues I raised with your "point"

 

Here look : http://www.transferleague.co.uk/ on the front page there is a table of premier league squads valued by transfer fees paid.

 

Funnily: Were 8th.

 

So even by your own conditions you are still wrong.

 

Looks legit :anguish:

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Calm Down Petal  :lol:

 

You get what you pay for pretty much - fair enough there might be the odd anomaly - but generally the rule of thumb is correct.

 

There's generally a reason why a player who costs £0.5m costs that much - and if you think our squad is really that valuable - apart from the obvious clues on the pitch - just take a look at the bench.

 

and before you start talking utter rubbish about what players are ''worth'' against what they cost - think about it for a second.

 

There's a reason they are still playing for one of the least ambitious teams in the country.

 

(I mean this season - our best player has been a loanee ffs, that's mackemesque!)

 

Terrible post, you've lamely skirted around all the issues I raised with your "point"

 

Here look : http://www.transferleague.co.uk/ on the front page there is a table of premier league squads valued by transfer fees paid.

 

Funnily: Were 8th.

 

So even by your own conditions you are still wrong.

 

Looks legit :anguish:

 

Ehh yeah.

 

Oh look: transfermarkt rates our squad as the 8th most valuable too.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/premier-league/gruendungsdaten/wettbewerb_GB1.html

 

A whole 50 million ahead of Sunderland in 9th.

 

What's an acceptable source to you, just HappyFace?

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Calm Down Petal  :lol:

 

You get what you pay for pretty much - fair enough there might be the odd anomaly - but generally the rule of thumb is correct.

 

There's generally a reason why a player who costs £0.5m costs that much - and if you think our squad is really that valuable - apart from the obvious clues on the pitch - just take a look at the bench.

 

and before you start talking utter rubbish about what players are ''worth'' against what they cost - think about it for a second.

 

There's a reason they are still playing for one of the least ambitious teams in the country.

 

(I mean this season - our best player has been a loanee ffs, that's mackemesque!)

 

Terrible post, you've lamely skirted around all the issues I raised with your "point"

 

Here look : http://www.transferleague.co.uk/ on the front page there is a table of premier league squads valued by transfer fees paid.

 

Funnily: Were 8th.

 

So even by your own conditions you are still wrong.

 

In that table the amount separating 12 places from Villa (7th) to Palace (20th) is just £72m.

 

The amount separating the one place from Villa (7th) to Arsenal (6th) is £89m.

 

Clearly the top 6 is a cut above EVERYONE else in the league and the rest are all very much in similar boats.

 

http://i42.tinypic.com/w811yx.jpg

 

There's a valid argument that 7th to 12th should form a group in the middle of the table distinct from the bottom 8, and Newcastle should be in that group.

 

Interesting post.

 

Seeing as we don't seem to have the resources to get in the top 6, and have consistently shown form that would see us finish about 8th since January (if maintained across a season), then what would be the point in sacking the manager?

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"You just have to be strong, and be bold in your own opinions of what you're doing. Since I've been here, I like to think I've set teams up to play an attractive style of football and win games on the front foot.

 

"At the back end of last year, I thought we got ourselves into a position where it was difficult to set teams up like that because I didn't think we were carrying enough threat."

 

Righto Alan.

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"You just have to be strong, and be bold in your own opinions of what you're doing. Since I've been here, I like to think I've set teams up to play an attractive style of football and win games on the front foot.

 

"At the back end of last year, I thought we got ourselves into a position where it was difficult to set teams up like that because I didn't think we were carrying enough threat."

 

Righto Alan.

 

Aye, it was only towards the back end of last year Alan :)

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Away Toon

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I think we all know that we have a starting 11 inferior to the top six, but would like to think we were competitive with most of the others. IMO if you compare Everton's starting 11 with ours, apart from Krul maybe for Howard, and Cabaye somewhere in their midfield, none of the rest of our players would start for them.

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