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Team couldn't give a s***. Embarrassed, properly. Feel ill. Horrible stuff.

 

Who motivates the team?  Sorry, I'll re-phrase, who is supposed to motivate the team?

 

Don't know mate. Doesn't make a difference. As if a different manager is going to lead to any sort of success :lol:

 

Were a mess.

 

Manager's don't make a difference? We've been shown up once again, you can change your mind you know, scientists do it all the time. Just tell it like it is, our manager's shite.

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I could understand sacking him if we were going to move forward with who we bring in but we all know it will be JFK and a few wasted inquiries for top managers where we won't pay the compensation required that is even if we could attract one. anyway

 

Not like we will be chasing Jurgen Klopp is it.

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I could understand sacking him if we were going to move forward with who we bring in but we all know it will be JFK and a few wasted inquiries for top managers where we won't pay the compensation required that is even if we could attract one. anyway

 

Not like we will be chasing Jurgen Klopp is it.

 

I agree completely, doesn't absolve him from being an utter cretin though. The whole thing is a lost cause man

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I'd rather have Kinnear any day of the week. It's one cunt down, two to go.

 

Aye. A fit Pardew or a heart attack in waiting? No brainer. Let's get rid of one ourselves and wait for nature to take its beautiful natural course with the other.

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If its not JFK it would be lower league shite or an out of work washed up twat, no way would Ashley even consider going after a decent manager in work and pay the compensation it would take.

That is if he could find a manager wiling to come here.

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If its not JFK it would be lower league s**** or an out of work washed up t***, no way would Ashley even consider going after a decent manager in work and pay the compensation it would take.

That is if he could find a manager wiling to come here.

 

Pardew is on about 2 million per year fwiw

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Well the options are thin as we know Ashley wont hire anyone for decent money so it will be an out of work manager, lower league manager or Kinnear.

 

TBH I dont think Holloway would work for Ashley.

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I could understand sacking him if we were going to move forward with who we bring in but we all know it will be JFK and a few wasted inquiries for top managers where we won't pay the compensation required that is even if we could attract one. anyway

 

Not like we will be chasing Jurgen Klopp is it.

 

We don't know that.

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I could understand sacking him if we were going to move forward with who we bring in but we all know it will be JFK and a few wasted inquiries for top managers where we won't pay the compensation required that is even if we could attract one. anyway

 

Not like we will be chasing Jurgen Klopp is it.

 

We don't know that.

 

If it's not Kinnear, it's someone who's prepared to work under Kinnear (never mind Ashley). Either way, our options absolutely stink.

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It is Di Matteo nailed on when we bin Pardew, from his agents comments we have already sounded him out. Don't like the guy, don't particularly rate him as a manager but he would be miles better than the s**** we have been served the past three years. The team stay in the premiership in spite of Pardew, Carver and Stones management.

 

At least Di Matteo/Poyet would maybe put more spice back into the derby.

 

I would echo the sentiments of having Kinnear back in charge.. we might still play s*** but at least he would make sure that the players give a damn.

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Stat i just worked out through interest:

 

Under Pardew we have gone behind in around 54 matches overall & have gone on to win just 5 times.

 

Twice in the 2011/12 season. Scunthorpe/carling cup 2-1 (115th min) & Blackburn/FA cup 2-1 (95th)

And 3 times last season vs Qpr (Needed a pen to win 2-1), Southampton (pen & OG to win 4-2) & Stoke 2-1 (92nd)

 

Thats his record from 54 games its happened.

 

We have never beaten a side in normal time under Alan pardew after going behind in the game without a penalty to help our cause.

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pfff is he really an improvement

 

He is positive. But no not really.

That's the issue no point sacking Pardew unless it was for a big improvement. Holloway may have an early affect as Poyet and Di Canio had with the scum but its not the answer in the long term.

 

We don't have an owner with vision and passion so he is never going to do whats best, tear off the dressing and put another cheap dressing on without cleaning the wound won't help us at all.

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"Holloway"

pfff is he really an improvement

 

He is positive. But no not really.

That's the issue no point sacking Pardew unless it was for a big improvement. Holloway may have an early affect as Poyet and Di Canio had with the scum but its not the answer in the long term.

 

We don't have an owner with vision and passion so he is never going to do whats best, tear off the dressing and put another cheap dressing on without cleaning the wound won't help us at all.

 

Yep unless we get the owner out we will just drift along, whoever the manager is. Personally i think we could get a better manager, or should i put that as a manager who plays better football. But it'll still be a owner/JFK appointed yes man.

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Stat i just worked out through interest:

 

Under Pardew we have gone behind in around 54 matches overall & have gone on to win just 5 times.

 

Twice in the 2011/12 season. Scunthorpe/carling cup 2-1 (115th min) & Blackburn/FA cup 2-1 (95th)

And 3 times last season vs Qpr (Needed a pen to win 2-1), Southampton (pen & OG to win 4-2) & Stoke 2-1 (92nd)

 

Thats his record from 54 games its happened.

 

We have never beaten a side in normal time under Alan pardew after going behind in the game without a penalty to help our cause.

 

Chelsea at home last season although your point is valid nonetheless.

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pfff is he really an improvement

 

He is positive. But no not really.

That's the issue no point sacking Pardew unless it was for a big improvement. Holloway may have an early affect as Poyet and Di Canio had with the scum but its not the answer in the long term.

 

We don't have an owner with vision and passion so he is never going to do whats best, tear off the dressing and put another cheap dressing on without cleaning the wound won't help us at all.

 

Yep unless we get the owner out we will just drift along, whoever the manager is. Personally i think we could get a better manager, or should i put that as a manager who plays better football. But it'll still be a owner/JFK appointed yes man.

 

Don't agree... granted we aren't going to push top 6 under this regime if thats what you are re-emphasizing. But a better manager.. which is practically anyone at this point would at least get us playing how we are capable and too our strengths, giving us hope and some passion back into supporting the team. We have a very talented set of players that have been basically ruined by our coaching staff.

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