Alan Pardew

[BrettNUFC]

That is shocking, no getting away from it. No denying that. What i meant from short space of time though was in fact a season. It's not actually a long period of time in a football club especially when managers have been given long contracts to turn things around or achieve success. For me i think there's not enough patience and faith from the boardroom in managers up and down the country. Majority seem to want instant success/results, even if that is achieved and then not backed up or followed up by more success, they are gone. One bad season amongst a few or a bad start to a new job shouldn't necessarily mean you should be instantly binned imo.

[Lotus]

It's abysmal, but it's still only one season.

 

What do you mean?

 

I mean, just because it's three runs of bad form doesn't mean he should have been sacked. It's still only one bad season, so it doesn't really affect the debate we were having above.

 

A bad season isn't normally enough to see a manager sacked?

 

Regardless of what you want, just saying that, looking around at football throughout the European top tiers, a bad season seems more than enough to see you sacked.

 

In fact a bad year is more than enough to get you sacked from just about any job in the world tbh.

 

I know it's enough to get you sacked, that's obvious. But that doesn't mean it's a massive mistake for a club to stick with the manager. In fact, as we were saying on the previous page, we would probably giving credit to someone else for having faith in the manager.

 

It's not mistake if you can't hire anyone better. Otherwise it is.

[Yorkie]

He's saying January 2013 didn't have much of an effect cos we had so many injuries. It will have an effect now that the squad is fit again. A load of horseshite, but that's what he means.

[Dinho lad]

This time last year he was talking about us being up there with the likes of Napoli, Bilbao, etc.

 

Now....

[BottledDog]

He's saying January 2013 didn't have much of an effect cos we had so many injuries. It will have an effect now that the squad is fit again. A load of horseshite, but that's what he means.

 

And how does that relate to the January 2014 transfer window?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He's saying January 2013 didn't have much of an effect cos we had so many injuries. It will have an effect now that the squad is fit again. A load of horseshite, but that's what he means.

 

And how does that relate to the January 2014 transfer window?

 

It doesn't.

[Yorkie]

He's saying January 2013 didn't have much of an effect cos we had so many injuries. It will have an effect now that the squad is fit again. A load of horseshite, but that's what he means.

 

And how does that relate to the January 2014 transfer window?

 

Don't think it does, it's a pretty shit article. It's clear he's talking about the 2013 January transfer window imo.

[Hanshithispantz]

Once bad season or not we've clearly had long enough to assess him as a manager and he's committing the same mistakes now as he was 2 seasons ago.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It's abysmal, but it's still only one season.

 

What do you mean?

 

I mean, just because it's three runs of bad form doesn't mean he should have been sacked. It's still only one bad season, so it doesn't really affect the debate we were having above.

 

A bad season isn't normally enough to see a manager sacked?

 

Regardless of what you want, just saying that, looking around at football throughout the European top tiers, a bad season seems more than enough to see you sacked.

 

In fact a bad year is more than enough to get you sacked from just about any job in the world tbh.

 

I know it's enough to get you sacked, that's obvious. But that doesn't mean it's a massive mistake for a club to stick with the manager. In fact, as we were saying on the previous page, we would probably giving credit to someone else for having faith in the manager.

 

It's not mistake if you can't hire anyone better. Otherwise it is.

 

I suppose so, but that doesn't really get to the heart of the argument. Your existing manager might improve after the dip, your proposed new manager might do worse than expected, his good season might have been a fluke. There are still a lot of unknowns, unless you are going for a manager of proven achievement over a number of years. E.g. not Poyet or anyone like that.

[BottledDog]

He's saying January 2013 didn't have much of an effect cos we had so many injuries. It will have an effect now that the squad is fit again. A load of horseshite, but that's what he means.

 

And how does that relate to the January 2014 transfer window?

 

Don't think it does, it's a pretty shit article. It's clear he's talking about the 2013 January transfer window imo.

 

Yup. This bit is bunkum '...admits to already eyeing the January 2014 transfer window'.

 

It makes it sound like he's given up on this window already, but there's nowt to actually back that up.

[alexf]

I'm probably reading too much into it but that long section about players not being as good when they want to go and so you just have to let them go etc. I think that's exactly what he is going to say about Cabaye.

 

Feels like he's slowly building up to it with every interview now.

[BottledDog]

I saw Laudrup earlier this week. Talking up Europe, and how the earlier start will have them raring to go at Man United in the first game, as they'll be more up to speed.

 

What a contrast ...

 

Doesn't half piss me off.

 

Pardew has at least come out and said he would love to win the FA Cup this year, then fkn spoils it by saying it might take a bit of luck.

[Dave]

Getting past the third round is normally a start.

[Skeletor]

Getting past the third round is normally a start.

 

Being able to beat lower division opposition is an even better start.

[Guest reefatoon]

No chance will he want to win the cup this year, that would mean Europe again, and we all know what the cuntbag thinks of Europe.

[BrettNUFC]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt (one good season/one bad season) up until the Reading game. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that result is among the worst losses I've ever experienced as a Newcastle fan.

 

Liverpool was the worst for me, the line up was the worst i've ever seen in 10 years. I was excited for the match then the team went around and it was a sickening feeling knowing what the likely outcome of the match was going to be. I was praying for 0-0 half time before i even got to the stadium.

 

The Reading game was just an absolute farce, it seemed to me like Pardew was crying out to Mike to get some new players with some of the decisions he made, they were so bad and so far off what should have been happening I thought at the time he was just exaggerating his plea.

[Dave]

No chance will he want to win the cup this year, that would mean Europe again, and we all know what the cuntbag thinks of Europe.

 

Good point.

[Dokko]

40 games is the target, any more than that and Ashley will dock his wages.

[Tooj]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt (one good season/one bad season) up until the Reading game. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that result is among the worst losses I've ever experienced as a Newcastle fan.

 

Liverpool was the worst for me, the line up was the worst i've ever seen in 10 years. I was excited for the match then the team went around and it was a sickening feeling knowing what the likely outcome of the match was going to be. I was praying for 0-0 half time before i even got to the stadium.

 

The Reading game was just an absolute farce, it seemed to me like Pardew was crying out to Mike to get some new players with some of the decisions he made, they were so bad and so far off what should have been happening I thought at the time he was just exaggerating his plea.

 

His tactics were shocking but it was nowhere near as bad as some of the times we saw under Roeder's tenure.

[Hanshithispantz]

You know your manager is shit like when his positive points are things like "I think he threw the game there to show the owners just how bad things are."

[Ronaldo]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt (one good season/one bad season) up until the Reading game. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that result is among the worst losses I've ever experienced as a Newcastle fan.

 

Liverpool was the worst for me, the line up was the worst i've ever seen in 10 years. I was excited for the match then the team went around and it was a sickening feeling knowing what the likely outcome of the match was going to be. I was praying for 0-0 half time before i even got to the stadium.

 

The Reading game was just an absolute farce, it seemed to me like Pardew was crying out to Mike to get some new players with some of the decisions he made, they were so bad and so far off what should have been happening I thought at the time he was just exaggerating his plea.

 

His tactics were shocking but it was nowhere near as bad as some of the times we saw under Roeder's tenure.

 

No chance. I've never seen a manager get is as wrong as that. I knew we were gonna get absolute dicked the second I saw the lineup.

[BrettNUFC]

No chance will he want to win the cup this year, that would mean Europe again, and we all know what the cuntbag thinks of Europe.

 

Good point.

 

He hardly disrespected Europe? He gave it a good go in terms of team selections bar the first few opening games. He just liked the Europe excuse when our leagues results were damaged. I'm sure Laudrup will pop in the Europe factor excuse on multiple occasions down the line this season on the back of a loss following a Thursday night game. Just an easy thing to give the press, expected.

[Yorkie]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt (one good season/one bad season) up until the Reading game. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that result is among the worst losses I've ever experienced as a Newcastle fan.

 

Liverpool was the worst for me, the line up was the worst i've ever seen in 10 years. I was excited for the match then the team went around and it was a sickening feeling knowing what the likely outcome of the match was going to be. I was praying for 0-0 half time before i even got to the stadium.

 

The Reading game was just an absolute farce, it seemed to me like Pardew was crying out to Mike to get some new players with some of the decisions he made, they were so bad and so far off what should have been happening I thought at the time he was just exaggerating his plea.

 

His tactics were shocking but it was nowhere near as bad as some of the times we saw under Roeder's tenure.

 

No chance. I've never seen a manager get is as wrong as that. I knew we were gonna get absolute dicked the second I saw the lineup.

 

Think Tooj was on about purely the personnel.

 

EDIT: could be wrong...

[Tooj]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt (one good season/one bad season) up until the Reading game. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that result is among the worst losses I've ever experienced as a Newcastle fan.

 

Liverpool was the worst for me, the line up was the worst i've ever seen in 10 years. I was excited for the match then the team went around and it was a sickening feeling knowing what the likely outcome of the match was going to be. I was praying for 0-0 half time before i even got to the stadium.

 

The Reading game was just an absolute farce, it seemed to me like Pardew was crying out to Mike to get some new players with some of the decisions he made, they were so bad and so far off what should have been happening I thought at the time he was just exaggerating his plea.

 

His tactics were shocking but it was nowhere near as bad as some of the times we saw under Roeder's tenure.

 

No chance. I've never seen a manager get is as wrong as that. I knew we were gonna get absolute dicked the second I saw the lineup.

 

Think Tooj was on about purely the personnel.

 

Aye. I should have made that more clear.

[Guest icemanblue]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt (one good season/one bad season) up until the Reading game. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that result is among the worst losses I've ever experienced as a Newcastle fan.

 

Liverpool was the worst for me, the line up was the worst i've ever seen in 10 years. I was excited for the match then the team went around and it was a sickening feeling knowing what the likely outcome of the match was going to be. I was praying for 0-0 half time before i even got to the stadium.

 

The Reading game was just an absolute farce, it seemed to me like Pardew was crying out to Mike to get some new players with some of the decisions he made, they were so bad and so far off what should have been happening I thought at the time he was just exaggerating his plea.

 

His tactics were shocking but it was nowhere near as bad as some of the times we saw under Roeder's tenure.

 

Roeder was somewhat hamstrung by the players available to him at the time, like. The lineup for Liverpool was a cowardly surrender. Like Brett says, I can remember being excited on the metro in, then I had the wind knocked right out of me as soon as I saw the team. Knew exactly what was coming.