Alan Pardew

[Dr Colossus]

It sounds ridiculous to say in the context and I can't believe I am, but I almost feel like I can't enjoy this win as much after Pardew's tactics in the second half.

 

The worst thing is, after seeing his post-match interview now where he's saying we need resilience under pressure, I feel as if he might think that those tactics worked and we were able to see the game out, when in reality we gave up control of the game, gave them free reign to come back into it and take the initiative back.

 

For what it's worth, goals aside I didn't think we were that good in the first half either. Too many aimless balls forward, not settled enough or enough control of the ball.

 

God, this is the most depressive post I've ever made.

[Guest bimpy474]

This win just papered over the cracks. The first half was good, we were looking really well and have done a few times this season, but that's not the problem. The problem is how Pardew handles games when we're winning at half time. The negativity on the pitch nearly cost us the win. We should have went out and killed them off but didn't. The game was crying out for Anita and Ben Arfa early in the 2nd half and it never happened. It's an away win and a very important one, but the next few fixtures are worrying.

 

It's how long he reacts when were under pressure, and when he does it's a poor sub. He just doesn't seem to know anything other than hold on. I cant wait for Shola to come back. You can see that sub a mile off when he does.

[Deuce]

I struggle to comprehend his in-game thought-processes.

 

High-pressure attacking footballing in the first half yields 2 goals and an utterly toothless Cardiff attack. Sit back and defend in the second half almost loses us the 3 points. Same story nearly every week.

[TRon]

This win just papered over the cracks. The first half was good, we were looking really well and have done a few times this season, but that's not the problem. The problem is how Pardew handles games when we're winning at half time. The negativity on the pitch nearly cost us the win. We should have went out and killed them off but didn't. The game was crying out for Anita and Ben Arfa early in the 2nd half and it never happened. It's an away win and a very important one, but the next few fixtures are worrying.

 

Yay! You may well be right, but that just earned me a whisky.

 

Oh, and there is no way you can argue we sat back when we came out for the second half. That's just nonsense.

 

We ended up sitting back once they scored though, and we did it really badly. They were charging through our midfield without much resistance and swinging in crosses without much pressure either. Luckily none of them looked like they knew where the goal was so we weren't really punished.

[Dr Colossus]

I struggle to comprehend his in-game thought-processes.

 

High-pressure attacking footballing in the first half yields 2 goals and an utterly toothless Cardiff attack. Sit back and defend in the second half almost loses us the 3 points. Same story nearly every week.

 

How wrong is it that when we're 2-0 up away from home at half-time, the most predictable result is Cardiff to get at least a draw?

[Happy Face]

West Ham

Morecambe

Fulham

Villa

Hull

Leeds

Everton

Cardiff

 

8 games for Pardew to be judged on.  Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition.

 

W5 D1 L2

 

Probably one loss too many from those games.  But not the catastrophe some feared.

 

If you're including league cup games then you're a joke, a complete joke.

 

I was getting wrong off people for leaving them out earlier in the thread 

 

I judge by the League, it's our bread and butter imo. As much as i love a cup run it can skew things like this because you play much weaker opposition at times.

 

Aye.  Top Half.  That'll do.

 

 

[loki679]

West Ham

Morecambe

Fulham

Villa

Hull

Leeds

Everton

Cardiff

 

8 games for Pardew to be judged on.  Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition.

 

W5 D1 L2

 

Probably one loss too many from those games.  But not the catastrophe some feared.

 

If you're including league cup games then you're a joke, a complete joke.

 

I was getting wrong off people for leaving them out earlier in the thread 

 

It's a fucking joke.  Morecambe ffs, good job.  Why not stick in a few pre-season friendlies while you're at it.

 

Remember this?

 

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/687/0by3.jpg

 

Or this?

 

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3533/t73k.jpg

 

Or this?

 

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2899/gamm.jpg

 

Or this?

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/e8/c9/0,,10278~9030120,00.jpg

 

And you're spouting off because we have a less than 50% win record in the PL?  You're crowing because we hung on for a win against the mighty Cardiff city?  You're including Morecambe and Leeds in your list of winnable games?

 

Sorry, I expect better.

[BottledDog]

This win just papered over the cracks. The first half was good, we were looking really well and have done a few times this season, but that's not the problem. The problem is how Pardew handles games when we're winning at half time. The negativity on the pitch nearly cost us the win. We should have went out and killed them off but didn't. The game was crying out for Anita and Ben Arfa early in the 2nd half and it never happened. It's an away win and a very important one, but the next few fixtures are worrying.

 

Yay! You may well be right, but that just earned me a whisky.

 

Oh, and there is no way you can argue we sat back when we came out for the second half. That's just nonsense.

 

We ended up sitting back once they scored though, and we did it really badly. They were charging through our midfield without much resistance and swinging in crosses without much pressure either. Luckily none of them looked like they knew where the goal was so we weren't really punished.

 

They got their peckers up and we lost our composure.

 

It's not great, I agree, but my point was we didn't come out looking to be defensive in the second half. We were trying to score again and if we got the 3rd rather than them it could have been hella different.

[Happy Face]

People really view things differently in terms of what constitutes sitting back and and what it is to be pinned back.

 

I tend to think it was 20 minutes of the latter with Mutch causing us big problems after we initially came out full of pressing, same as the first half.

[TRon]

This win just papered over the cracks. The first half was good, we were looking really well and have done a few times this season, but that's not the problem. The problem is how Pardew handles games when we're winning at half time. The negativity on the pitch nearly cost us the win. We should have went out and killed them off but didn't. The game was crying out for Anita and Ben Arfa early in the 2nd half and it never happened. It's an away win and a very important one, but the next few fixtures are worrying.

 

Yay! You may well be right, but that just earned me a whisky.

 

Oh, and there is no way you can argue we sat back when we came out for the second half. That's just nonsense.

 

We ended up sitting back once they scored though, and we did it really badly. They were charging through our midfield without much resistance and swinging in crosses without much pressure either. Luckily none of them looked like they knew where the goal was so we weren't really punished.

 

They got their peckers up and we lost our composure.

 

It's not great, I agree, but my point was we didn't come out looking to be defensive in the second half. We were trying to score again and if we got the 3rd rather than them it could have been hella different.

 

I don't want to rag too much about it in any case. I'm far from convinced after that 2nd half, but a win's a win, let's just enjoy it.

[cp40]

West Ham

Morecambe

Fulham

Villa

Hull

Leeds

Everton

Cardiff

 

8 games for Pardew to be judged on.  Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition.

 

W5 D1 L2

 

Probably one loss too many from those games.  But not the catastrophe some feared.

 

If you're including league cup games then you're a joke, a complete joke.

 

I was getting wrong off people for leaving them out earlier in the thread 

 

 

cant include the wins when judging him man ffs.

[r0cafella]

People really view things differently in terms of what constitutes sitting back and and what it is to be pinned back.

 

I tend to think it was 20 minutes of the latter with Mutch causing us big problems after we initially came out full of pressing, same as the first half.

 

Doesn't it concern you we totally lose our shape in the second half and we dropped too deep which created the space for Mutch?

 

I like your optimism but tactically the second half wasn't great from our point of view and it's hardly the first time it's happened under Pardew.

[Guest bimpy474]

West Ham

Morecambe

Fulham

Villa

Hull

Leeds

Everton

Cardiff

 

8 games for Pardew to be judged on.  Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition.

 

W5 D1 L2

 

Probably one loss too many from those games.  But not the catastrophe some feared.

 

If you're including league cup games then you're a joke, a complete joke.

 

I was getting wrong off people for leaving them out earlier in the thread 

 

I judge by the League, it's our bread and butter imo. As much as i love a cup run it can skew things like this because you play much weaker opposition at times.

 

Aye.  Top Half.  That'll do.

 

 

 

Not sure that'll be the case after Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea etc. Hope so but i can't see it myself.

[Mick]

 

 

Not sure that'll be the case after Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea etc. Hope so but i can't see it myself.

 

I'm not sure it will be the case after all of the weekends games are played.

[Happy Face]

People really view things differently in terms of what constitutes sitting back and and what it is to be pinned back.

 

I tend to think it was 20 minutes of the latter with Mutch causing us big problems after we initially came out full of pressing, same as the first half.

 

Doesn't it concern you we totally lose our shape in the second half and we dropped too deep which created the space for Mutch?

 

I like your optimism but tactically the second half wasn't great from our point of view and it's hardly the first time it's happened under Pardew.

 

Aye, it was nail biting shit.  Not sure we particularly "lost" our shape.  We basically played with 2 at the back first half 

 

People want the moon 0n a stick though, they want attractive attacking football with wing backs bombing forwards and creating chance after chance...but they also want a solid back line of 4 keeping shape and concentration avoiding any gaps leading to mistakes.  Bayern Munich can pull that off, but I think it asks a lot of Mike Williamson et al.

[Happy Face]

 

 

Not sure that'll be the case after Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea etc. Hope so but i can't see it myself.

 

I'm not sure it will be the case after all of the weekends games are played.

 

Mackems doing their bit against Man U 

[Mick]

 

 

Aye, it was nail biting s***.  Not sure we particularly "lost" our shape.  We basically played with 2 at the back first half 

 

People want the moon 0n a stick though, they want attractive attacking football with wing backs bombing forwards and creating chance after chance...but they also want a solid back line of 4 keeping shape and concentration avoiding any gaps leading to mistakes.  Bayern Munich can pull that off, but I think it asks a lot of Mike Williamson et al.

 

[r0cafella]

People really view things differently in terms of what constitutes sitting back and and what it is to be pinned back.

 

I tend to think it was 20 minutes of the latter with Mutch causing us big problems after we initially came out full of pressing, same as the first half.

 

Doesn't it concern you we totally lose our shape in the second half and we dropped too deep which created the space for Mutch?

 

I like your optimism but tactically the second half wasn't great from our point of view and it's hardly the first time it's happened under Pardew.

 

Aye, it was nail biting s***.  Not sure we particularly "lost" our shape.  We basically played with 2 at the back first half 

 

People want the moon 0n a stick though, they want attractive attacking football with wing backs bombing forwards and creating chance after chance...but they also want a solid back line of 4 keeping shape and concentration avoiding any gaps leading to mistakes.  Bayern Munich can pull that off, but I think it asks a lot of Mike Williamson et al.

 

 

I'm sorry but a "footballer" playing at the highest level of the English game should be capable with the ball at his feet. FFS some keepers are better with the ball at their feet than Williamson is, this is a big issue and the fact it hasn't improved throughout his time here really points at a lack of quality coaching.

 

And we did have shape in the first half, the shape was very aggressive due to us playing in that manner. We got tight in the first half, we pressed well high up the pitch in the first half we looked like a team in the first half.

 

If the drop off doesn't concern you then I'll leave you in blissful ignorance sir.

[Happy Face]

People really view things differently in terms of what constitutes sitting back and and what it is to be pinned back.

 

I tend to think it was 20 minutes of the latter with Mutch causing us big problems after we initially came out full of pressing, same as the first half.

 

Doesn't it concern you we totally lose our shape in the second half and we dropped too deep which created the space for Mutch?

 

I like your optimism but tactically the second half wasn't great from our point of view and it's hardly the first time it's happened under Pardew.

 

Aye, it was nail biting s***.  Not sure we particularly "lost" our shape.  We basically played with 2 at the back first half 

 

People want the moon 0n a stick though, they want attractive attacking football with wing backs bombing forwards and creating chance after chance...but they also want a solid back line of 4 keeping shape and concentration avoiding any gaps leading to mistakes.  Bayern Munich can pull that off, but I think it asks a lot of Mike Williamson et al.

 

 

I'm sorry but a "footballer" playing at the highest level of the English game should be capable with the ball at his feet. FFS some keepers are better with the ball at their feet than Williamson is, this is a big issue and the fact it hasn't improved throughout his time here really points at a lack of quality coaching.

 

And we did have shape in the first half, the shape was very aggressive due to us playing in that manner. We got tight in the first half, we pressed well high up the pitch in the first half we looked like a team in the first half.

 

If the drop off doesn't concern you then I'll leave you in blissful ignorance sir.

 

How do you think Cardiff's performance changed second half in comparison to the first?

[Guest icemanblue]

Unpopular selection and substitutes that ultimately paid off. Yes, we sat back too much after their goal, but I can only think of one clear cut chance after that. Tiote played well, and we didn't miss Hatem that much in terms of creating chances. Not a great deal to complain about tonight.

[BottledDog]

...If the drop off doesn't concern you then I'll leave you in blissful ignorance sir.

 

 

http://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Im+ok+with+that+good+day+sir+_fceda5c90f171830f57fdc4ab222c7d9.jpg

[Begbie]

Kudos to Pardew for that 1st half. He should have asked them to go out and try to kill the match in the second but he played the usual chickenshit game.

Pardew needs to grow a pair if he is ever going to be successful here, his negative tactics have cost us to many points. Stupid subs in the second half, but lady luck smiled to us today..

 

[r0cafella]

People really view things differently in terms of what constitutes sitting back and and what it is to be pinned back.

 

I tend to think it was 20 minutes of the latter with Mutch causing us big problems after we initially came out full of pressing, same as the first half.

 

Doesn't it concern you we totally lose our shape in the second half and we dropped too deep which created the space for Mutch?

 

I like your optimism but tactically the second half wasn't great from our point of view and it's hardly the first time it's happened under Pardew.

 

Aye, it was nail biting s***.  Not sure we particularly "lost" our shape.  We basically played with 2 at the back first half 

 

People want the moon 0n a stick though, they want attractive attacking football with wing backs bombing forwards and creating chance after chance...but they also want a solid back line of 4 keeping shape and concentration avoiding any gaps leading to mistakes.  Bayern Munich can pull that off, but I think it asks a lot of Mike Williamson et al.

 

 

I'm sorry but a "footballer" playing at the highest level of the English game should be capable with the ball at his feet. FFS some keepers are better with the ball at their feet than Williamson is, this is a big issue and the fact it hasn't improved throughout his time here really points at a lack of quality coaching.

 

And we did have shape in the first half, the shape was very aggressive due to us playing in that manner. We got tight in the first half, we pressed well high up the pitch in the first half we looked like a team in the first half.

 

If the drop off doesn't concern you then I'll leave you in blissful ignorance sir.

 

How do you think Cardiff's performance changed second half in comparison to the first?

 

Of course Cardiff came out with their ears ringing second half, that's not even for debate but our levels dropped, our tactics changed.

 

We went in at half time with an attitude of we are going to score more and keep out foot on the throttle and in the second half that mentality changed.

 

One sure fired way to concede chances is to be indecisive, dropping deep without becoming compact, defending with width but not getting tight. This is exactly how we we're for spells in the second half and it's no different to how we defended in the first half vs Everton.

 

As I've said if this doesn't concern you that's fine but for me personally it's a huge concern because tactically it's not good enough.

[Guest icemanblue]

Kudos to Pardew for that 1st half. He should have asked them to go out and try to kill the match in the second but he played the usual chickenshit game.

Pardew needs to grow a pair if he is ever going to be successful here, his negative tactics have cost us to many points. Stupid subs in the second half, but lady luck smiled to us today..

 

 

What a load of shit, man. Knew people were going to be saying this. We started the second half as we ended the first, closing down high up the pitch and creating chances. After the goal, the manager, players, and fans shit themselves, no doubt on the back of our shaky as fuck form.

[Guest neesy111]

Kudos to Pardew for that 1st half. He should have asked them to go out and try to kill the match in the second but he played the usual chickenshit game.

Pardew needs to grow a pair if he is ever going to be successful here, his negative tactics have cost us to many points. Stupid subs in the second half, but lady luck smiled to us today..

 

 

What a load of shit, man. Knew people were going to be saying this. We started the second half as we ended the first, closing down high up the pitch and creating chances. After the goal, the manager, players, and fans shit themselves, no doubt on the back of our shaky as fuck form.