LRD Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 At which phase of the CL would the EL winner enter? From wiki: The winner of the UEFA Europa League qualifies for the UEFA Super Cup and from the 2015-2016 season onwards the winners of the previous season's UEFA Europa League will qualify for the UEFA Champions League, the winner entering at least at the play-off round (assuming they do not already qualify through domestic performance), and will enter the group stage if the berth reserved for the Champions League title holders is not used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 So most times they'll go straight to the group pase, that's quite the bye. Although checking the list of EL winners this decade there aren't names that jump at me as teams that wouldn't challenge for a CL spot in their leagues at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Under the changes the Europa League winner will usually qualify directly for the group phase of the Champions League although under some circumstances they may have to go into the final qualifying round. UEFA said the Europa League winners will go into the next season's Champions League at the final qualifying round at least. A UEFA statement said: "The Europa League winners could even gain direct access to the group stage, should the Champions League title-holders also qualify via their domestic league, thus freeing up a place in the Champions League group stage. "As an effect of the Europa League winners qualifying for the Champions League, the current limit of a maximum four teams per association will be increased to five. "Further changes were made to the access list, whereby, in principle, all associations will now have a maximum three teams entering the Europa League." http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/uefa-confirm-champions-league-reward-for-winning-the-europa-league-8630925.html Pardew needs to finish in 9th spot or lower from 2015 to be safe then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Just saw this on the guardian Norwich City were the first club to come out and say they would not be sporting Stonewall's rainbow laces this weekend in support of removing homophobia from football. Stephen Fry, board member and ardent supporter of the campaign is sure to be pleased. But what is the club's noble reason for turning down the request? Apparently 'Norwich have discussed the matter with Stonewall, explaining that the organisation's partnership with Paddy Power conflicts with their own relationship with SBOBET and use of the promotional material would set a precedent other good causes would attempt to follow.' So their bookie of choice conflicts with Stonewall's? An insurmountable problem. What an awful signifier of the state of the modern game when puny commercial interests can get in the way of an undeniably good cause. And this at a club with an openly gay board member and where Justin Fashanu began his career. Toby Moses http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/sep/20/premier-league-10-things-weekend I could understand if they thought it was way too tokenistic, but that is one shitty reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 That was a real idea?!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Supposedly, this is how the clubs have responded to the Stonewall initiative: ARSENAL: Maybe ASTON VILLA: Maybe CARDIFF: Maybe CHELSEA: Players choose for themselves CRYSTAL PALACE: Players choose for themselves EVERTON: Yes FULHAM: Players choose for themselves HULL: Players choose for themselves LIVERPOOL: No MAN CITY: Players choose for themselves MAN UTD: No NEWCASTLE: Players choose for themselves NORWICH: No SOUTHAMPTON: No STOKE: Maybe SUNDERLAND: No SWANSEA: No TOTTENHAM: No WEST BROM: Maybe WEST HAM: No So no means that the players are not allowed to do this, even if they want to. I can understand that the clubs wont force it upon they're players, even if this is something everyone should be perfectly fine with (apart from the odd superstition), but refusing the players to do this is just plain wrong. I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Everton bunch of queers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Everton bunch of queers. Not that much of a difference between Toffee and Fudge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 'Everton Mince' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 They still have more balls than the rest of the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 ARSENAL: Maybe ASTON VILLA: Maybe CARDIFF: Maybe CHELSEA: Players choose for themselves CRYSTAL PALACE: Players choose for themselves EVERTON: Yes FULHAM: Players choose for themselves HULL: Players choose for themselves LIVERPOOL: No MAN CITY: Players choose for themselves MAN UTD: No NEWCASTLE: Players choose for themselves NORWICH: No SOUTHAMPTON: No STOKE: Maybe SUNDERLAND: Any players caught doing so will be sent to re-education camps. SWANSEA: No TOTTENHAM: No WEST BROM: Maybe WEST HAM: No FYP. --- Good on those clubs allowing it btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Good on Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's a daft idea anyway and won't make one bit of difference. Even the most homophobic cunt could wear them just to save face and come out looking like the good guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I'm really unsure of what it's all about like, how is wearing multi-coloured laces in any way fighting homophobia? It's faux sentimental bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's a daft idea anyway and won't make one bit of difference. Even the most homophobic cunt could wear them just to save face and come out looking like the good guy. Sends a message to the fans though. It's a small thing but it's a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Good on Everton. Changing the name of their ground to Goodinson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Supposedly, this is how the clubs have responded to the Stonewall initiative: ARSENAL: Maybe ASTON VILLA: Maybe CARDIFF: Maybe CHELSEA: Players choose for themselves CRYSTAL PALACE: Players choose for themselves EVERTON: Yes FULHAM: Players choose for themselves HULL: Players choose for themselves LIVERPOOL: No MAN CITY: Players choose for themselves MAN UTD: No NEWCASTLE: Players choose for themselves NORWICH: No SOUTHAMPTON: No STOKE: Maybe SUNDERLAND: No SWANSEA: No TOTTENHAM: No WEST BROM: Maybe WEST HAM: No So no means that the players are not allowed to do this, even if they want to. I can understand that the clubs wont force it upon they're players, even if this is something everyone should be perfectly fine with (apart from the odd superstition), but refusing the players to do this is just plain wrong. I think. Its a marketing ploy by paddy power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I'm really unsure of what it's all about like, how is wearing multi-coloured laces in any way fighting homophobia? It's faux sentimental bollocks. kinda agree here fail to see how it will help in any fashion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Awareness. The same way any of these things work. Telling the general public that it's not okay. I don't see the need for the risque slogan mind you. It's about as subtle as "The Stonewall Initiative: Boshing homophobia right up the arse". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Awareness. The same way any of these things work. Telling the general public that it's not okay. I don't see the need for the risque slogan mind you. It's about as subtle as "The Stonewall Initiative: Boshing homophobia right up the arse". Dan is spittin' hot fire right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I don't really get the difference between 'Maybe' and 'Players choose for themselves'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Can we replace Neil's avatar with this http://reallifemaggie.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/skipping.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Its a marketing ploy by paddy power. Bingo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 You can push it off as a marketing ploy by paddy power if you want, but its pretty pathetic how few clubs have been willing to join in with an attempt like this to try and show support for the LGBT community. Absolute disgrace that in 2013 were still in a situation where gay footballers can't be open about their sexuality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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