TheGuv Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 They weren't. They were just very poorly managed throughout the season. It was effectively the same squad that dismantled Spurs 4-1 and drew away to Man Utd in the opening day of the season. Sunderland have a good manager with some decent players but mostly average Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 A serious question for all you Newcastle fans. I know lots of you will laugh when we go down, and I actually don't mind that as that's what football rivalry is partly about, but do you think relegation is such a bad thing ? I've got to be honest and say I'd rather stay up, but I look at your team now, and compare them to the tarts who took you down, and it's like chalk and cheese. Relegation certainly done no harm to Newcastle in the longer term, and I've read many posts on this forum from fans who enjoyed the Championship. It was great because we were great that season. We won lots of games, scored lots of goals and won the division with ease. We also saw the emergence of a real team with key players coming to the fore, Colo, Jonas, Nolan, Enrique, Barton , Carroll et al. Everything was immensely enjoyable about that season other than who the owner was and the actual division we were in. If we had struggled however, we'd still be ruing the day we were relegated today because we'd probably still be stuck down there. Relegation for yous could be a disaster. We got lucky, will yous? Yous could easily do a Boro or worse. One of the biggest factors behind our promotion which is often overlooked was the fans not deserting the club/side. The players knew they had our support and that gave them a lot of confidence, it also gave Hughton a lot of confidence. It was a case of well here we are, lets get out of it ASAP together. We all knuckled down and didn't wallow in self pity or sack things off. If yous go down, you will lose even more fans and could well play in a half empty or less stadium and that can have a huge negative impact on everything. Indeed one of the reasons why yous haven't kicked on in my opinion is down to empty seats. A full house every week really can make a difference. If I was a player and looked around and saw thousands of empty seats I'd be thinking well the fans don't even believe in the club or us and while you'd like to think professionalism would dictate how much a player puts in effort wise, surely it must be demoralising to see thousands of empty seats in the same way a 5-0 howking can have such a demoralising effect on players. That's one of the things that truly sets our clubs apart and indeed us as fans. We stick with our club in the main. Yous don't, or have stopped even though you have an owner who has ambition for you club and has backed it up with money and managerial decisions. Yous were 3-0 down at our place when we beat yous 5-1 and your fans left at half-time in their thousands. When we got tanked 5-1 off Liverpool in our relegation season, when the 5th went in an almighty roar of Newcastle went around the then still packed stadium. Gerrard afterwards who was sensational said he couldn't believe it. We gave a louder ironic cheer to their final goal than the 3,000 Reds did. Don't get me wrong, yous are loyal fans, and both sets of supporters deserve better from our clubs and I cannot really knock those sunderland fans who don't go because yous have put up with so much s*** but if yous want to know why yous have never really kicked on, yous need to take a big long hard look at yourselves. There is no excuse really. You appoint a renowned successful manager in O'Neill and spend fortunes but still thousands of empty seats. Your cup attendances this season are a joke given how far yous went in the two. Look at us, we have a slimey b****** of a manager who along with the owner has systematically lowered expecations and taken the fun out of seeing us play but we still turn up and we do this because we foolishly believe in a better future. A huge portion of your fans have simply given up on safc period and it shows in those pink empty seats. If yous go down, the owner will surely sell up and you may well even lose your manager. If you do get relegated, I reckon it will be a long time before we play each other as same division clubs like, unless we also went down which under these clowns is always a possibility, see last season for example. Great post, and not a lot I can argue with, apart from the empty seats bit. We did great at home in the cups this season when the stadium was less than half full. Our worst performances in the league have came at home when we've had over 40,000 through the gate. No, I can't figure it out either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Which was worse, our relegation side or the current mackems? Our side is worse, believe me. It's amazing that Poyet got any kind of tune out of them really. Come on lads ? Sundolando !!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Sundo gets my vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 They weren't. They were just very poorly managed throughout the season. It was effectively the same squad that dismantled Spurs 4-1 and drew away to Man Utd in the opening day of the season. Sunderland have a good manager with some decent players but mostly average Aye, and Tiote, Simpson & Williamson apart, a weakened squad to the one that went down almost got us top 10 in our first season back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I saw Wembo & Champo in the same post the other day on RTG. Couldn't help but piss myself. Not an ounce of irony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Sundo gets my vote. Aye, it's supposed to be an abbreviation of sorts isn't it? Find it funny as fuck this Wembo thing me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'd definitely take Ki from their current squad (or Swansea's more like). Supremely technically gifted with very sharp instincts/decisiveness too; which is great for someone who sits in a deeper midfield area. Besides that, they don't really have much of anything besides Johnson. Then again, if they do get relegated, perhaps Altidore will transform into the beast Ameobi was during our season down there. Not sure I would describe Shola as a beast. Didn't he only score about 10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 They came in about 14 games tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I saw Wembo & Champo in the same post the other day on RTG. Couldn't help but piss myself. Not an ounce of irony. serio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'd definitely take Ki from their current squad (or Swansea's more like). Supremely technically gifted with very sharp instincts/decisiveness too; which is great for someone who sits in a deeper midfield area. Besides that, they don't really have much of anything besides Johnson. Then again, if they do get relegated, perhaps Altidore will transform into the beast Ameobi was during our season down there. Not sure I would describe Shola as a beast. Didn't he only score about 10? He scored a goal pretty much every game and a half. If he'd stayed fit the whole season he'd have hit 20 IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'd definitely take Ki from their current squad (or Swansea's more like). Supremely technically gifted with very sharp instincts/decisiveness too; which is great for someone who sits in a deeper midfield area. Besides that, they don't really have much of anything besides Johnson. Then again, if they do get relegated, perhaps Altidore will transform into the beast Ameobi was during our season down there. Not sure I would describe Shola as a beast. Didn't he only score about 10? He scored a goal pretty much every game and a half. If he'd stayed fit the whole season he'd have hit 20 IMO. Yup, started with 8 in 9 games too before Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Looks like they can't borrow Borro any more http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9231224/transfer-news-fabio-borini-set-to-return-to-liverpool-this-summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Got nee chance at Anfo tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 8-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Should be a bumathon given they were lucky to lose by only 2 to Norwich, but they seem to raise their game for the bigger sides. Reckon they'll only lose by two goals - unless they concede early in which case the floodgates could open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I fear a complacent liverpool and a parking of the bus gus. Nervy affair imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Not sure like, I think Livo will really go for it, they've got an actual chance at the title for the first time in years, they can't afford to drop points against relegation battlers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The bookies aren't giving them much of a chance. Betfair are offering 18/1 for a sundo victo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The bookies aren't giving them much of a chance. Betfair are offering 18/1 for a sundo victo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 http://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2014/3/25/5540396/ellis-short-mike-ashley-transfers-relegation-demise-downward-spiral Took them four whole words before we got a mention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The bookies aren't giving them much of a chance. Betfair are offering 18/1 for a sundo victo. Its similar odds on us winning for Liverpool by 4+ goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I think Sturro and co will fill their boots. I love this 'o' thing, it's like a new form of pig latin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The_Optimistic Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Whats going annoy them more tomorrow is that they will probably put more of a fight up and get beat narrowly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I think Sturro and co will fill their boots. I love this 'o' thing, it's like a new form of pig latin. Sundo Relegato, Mr Poyoto? They should nickname Bardo 'Brigitte' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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